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This is not a judgment or condemnation of anything, just an observation. Without getting into potential morality and messing around with vaccines and their contents, here is something to consider. God knows everything about each and every one of us - He may guide someone to not get the vaccine because of their health situation and His knowledge of how the vaccine will react with their body. Later, if they reject this guidance of God and give in to peer pressure, etc. and then get the vaccine, for them perhaps it should come as no surprise when that individual gets bad reactions and health complications due to the vaccine. (And no, I am not making this comment about anyone having complications, just wondering in the specific situation presented above.)

I think this is the case for a preacher in my church. He has not had the best of health the last few years, but since the summer he was adamant against getting the vaccine, then about 1-2 months ago, he gave into pressure from his doctor to receive the vaccine (his wife needed to take it before starting on new medication because it would cause problems if she took it once she was on the medication, then out of fear of his wife potentially being exposed to Covid, he gave in to the doctor's counsel and took the vaccine). The amount of health issues he has had since then has been astounding. Could these issues potentially have been avoided if he stood firmly by faith on the guidance the Lord had already given him?

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4 minutes ago, Jerry said:

This is not a judgment or condemnation of anything, just an observation. Without getting into potential morality and messing around with vaccines and their contents, here is something to consider. God knows everything about each and every one of us - He may guide someone to not get the vaccine because of their health situation and His knowledge of how the vaccine will react with their body. Later, if they reject this guidance of God and give in to peer pressure, etc. and then get the vaccine, for them perhaps it should come as no surprise when that individual gets bad reactions and health complications due to the vaccine. (And no, I am not making this comment about anyone having complications, just wondering in the specific situation presented above.)

I think this is the case for a preacher in my church. He has not had the best of health the last few years, but since the summer he was adamant against getting the vaccine, then about 1-2 months ago, he gave into pressure from his doctor to receive the vaccine (his wife needed to take it before starting on new medication because it would cause problems if she took it once she was on the medication, then out of fear of his wife potentially being exposed to Covid, he gave in to the doctor's counsel and took the vaccine). The amount of health issues he has had since then has been astounding. Could these issues potentially have been avoided if he stood firmly by faith on the guidance the Lord had already given him?

Good things to consider....With my comorbidity factors, I was told by one physician to get the shot. I refuse to call them vaccines. At any rate, my other physician told me I would be crazy to take an unproven substance into my body, and he backed it up with information whereas the other physician didn't, but just spewed the talking points we hear every day on the radio, tele, and read in print. So, even with these health challenges I haven't had the shot, but have had the virus 2x, once nearly fatally.  Still, the Lord carried me through both times. My wife as well with her physical challenges. We both have had friends that had health challenges, yet they took the shots. Three of the five have passed away, one with covid, though he had been "fully protected" as the doctor said...one with his comorbidities in play, but allegedly not from the virus or the shot (I don't believe that), and the last one from suicide brought on by depression from the prolonged isolation and mandates. All were Christians...some could handle the situation better than others. Yet, many of our friends who have comorbidites have opted NOT to take the shots, and some have experienced covid, others haven't. 

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1 hour ago, wretched said:

The love of money is the root of all evil:

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Dont forget that BlackRock, Inc the world's largest investment company is the major investor in Pfizer and after the plandemic broke out they became the largest investor in China.

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1 hour ago, BrotherTony said:

Take everything that Project Veritas publishes with a huge grain of salt. 

The Federalist Papers organization is a recognized spreader of false information. They are not to be trusted to be truthful.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Federalist_(website)

 

Also, note whatever is the truth it was done by the Trump administration in 2018.

Project Veritas is an American far-right[16] activist group founded by James O'Keefe in 2010.[20] The group produces deceptively edited videos[15] of its undercover operations,[7] which use secret recordings[7] in an effort to discredit mainstream media organizations and progressive groups.[21][22] Project Veritas also uses entrapment[14] to generate bad publicity for its targets,[4] and has propagated disinformation[3] and conspiracy theories[30] in its videos and operations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Veritas

 

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34 minutes ago, Razor said:

Take everything that Project Veritas publishes with a huge grain of salt. 

The Federalist Papers organization is a recognized spreader of false information. They are not to be trusted to be truthful.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Federalist_(website)

 

Also, note whatever is the truth it was done by the Trump administration in 2018.

Project Veritas is an American far-right[16] activist group founded by James O'Keefe in 2010.[20] The group produces deceptively edited videos[15] of its undercover operations,[7] which use secret recordings[7] in an effort to discredit mainstream media organizations and progressive groups.[21][22] Project Veritas also uses entrapment[14] to generate bad publicity for its targets,[4] and has propagated disinformation[3] and conspiracy theories[30] in its videos and operations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Veritas

 

Hogwash! They're more accurate than that left wing, commie garbage you post. There's far more disniformation and censorship of the TRUTH by the left wing administration, bought and paid for medical establishment, Big Pharma, and socialist advocates like Bill Gates, Anthony Fauci, George Soros, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer and the like! But, thanks for once again showing how much you worship the government and left wing sources.

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2 minutes ago, BrotherTony said:

Hogwash! They're more accurate than that left wing, commie garbage you post. There's far more disniformation and censorship of the TRUTH by the left wing administration, bought and paid for medical establishment, Big Pharma, and socialist advocates like Bill Gates, Anthony Fauci, George Soros, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer and the like! But, thanks for once again showing how much you worship the government and left wing sources.

Take anything from the far right or far left with huge grains of salt. I trust neither. Maybe that is why I am attacked by both sides.

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14 minutes ago, Razor said:

Take anything from the far right or far left with huge grains of salt. I trust neither. Maybe that is why I am attacked by both sides.

I don't believe I've ever seen you "take sides" against the left. Where exactly have you done this?

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17 minutes ago, BrotherTony said:

I don't believe I've ever seen you "take sides" against the left. Where exactly have you done this?

That is because there are no far left posters here. I lean left, not far left, but left when it comes to how we treat and take care of people ... and that includes unwarranted wars where innocent mothers, fathers and children are put in harms way.  I lean right in committing resources to taking care of our solders and sailors, and that makes me left-leaning toward how we treat those folk also. 

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1 hour ago, Razor said:

That is because there are no far left posters here. I lean left, not far left, but left when it comes to how we treat and take care of people ... and that includes unwarranted wars where innocent mothers, fathers and children are put in harms way.  I lean right in committing resources to taking care of our solders and sailors, and that makes me left-leaning toward how we treat those folk also. 

I see that once again you've sidestepped the question...WHERE have you fought against the left on these forums? I can't seem to find anything that proves your assertion that you do so. 

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1 hour ago, BrotherTony said:

I see that once again you've sidestepped the question...WHERE have you fought against the left on these forums? I can't seem to find anything that proves your assertion that you do so. 

I answered. Not in this forum. There are no far left folk posting here. The far left and the far right are both dangerous. It doesn't matter if a person is killed by a right wing bullet or a left wing noose, that person is still dead. 

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