creepy "preacher"

[John81]

I have no doubt some of these people are demon possessed or at least willingly lead by demons. Indeed, some of what they put forth is calling on people to open themselves up to unknown spirits. What they are doing is unscriptural and can only lead to further bondage to demonic forces.

[speerjp1]

It seemed to me that the only thing that could accurately be described as "drunken" in that whole video was the guy doing the speaking (and that wasn't "drunk" of the Holy Spirit either).

He was being controlled by something or someone.

It was a very disturbing display of the ends of occultism in the "church."

[Guest Guest]

Yes' date=' God won't let His children get away with open and blatant sin.[/quote']

I have to disagree with you Jerry (It is called GRACE). Sometimes we fall and he is always there to pick us back up again. Remember, he is always with us once we have recieved him.

[JerryNumbers]

eb 12:5 And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:
Heb 12:6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
Heb 12:7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
Heb 12:8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.
Heb 12:9 Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?
Heb 12:10 For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness.
Heb 12:11 Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby.

If you have never experienced the chastening of the Lord, them you either have not been a Christians very long and or your not one & or you have confessed you sins to God before He has chasteneth you.

But that said, the key to not experiencing chastening is to confess ones sin before God starts the chastening.

Co 11:30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.
1Co 11:31 For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged.
1Co 11:32 But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.

1Jo 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
1Jo 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
1Jo 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

You seem to want to proclaim that God is all about love, that there is no judgment, no consequences for our sins while living in this life. God's children can sufferer from their sins, that is be punished for them by God in this life & of course it can cause one to loose rewards at the Bema Judgment Seat.

1Co 3:12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
1Co 3:13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
1Co 3:14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
1Co 3:15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

And we can commit the sin unto death.

1Jo 5:16 If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.

Yes, there is a sin unto death. Who receives this punishment. A child of God who has gone into sin, whom God has chasteneth but yet that person will not confess their sins and keeps right on going deeper into sin.

God warns us what sin will cause, if sin unto death comes our way, its our fault, not God's, but its clear in the bible that he does use the sin unto death.

1 Co 11:30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.

Num 20:12 And the LORD spoke unto Moses and Aaron, Because ye believed me not, to sanctify me in the eyes of the children of Israel, therefore ye shall not bring this congregation into the land which I have given them.

Moses got to look into the promise land, but he did not get to lead Irseal into the promised land.

Num 20:11 And Moses lifted up his hand, and with his rod he smote the rock twice: and the water came out abundantly, and the congregation drank, and their beasts also.
Num 20:12 And the LORD spoke unto Moses and Aaron, Because ye believed me not, to sanctify me in the eyes of the children of Israel, therefore ye shall not bring this congregation into the land which I have given them.

Deu 34:1 And Moses went up from the plains of Moab unto the mountain of Nebo, to the top of Pisgah, that is over against Jericho. And the LORD showed him all the land of Gilead, unto Dan,
Deu 34:2 And all Naphtali, and the land of Ephraim, and Manasseh, and all the land of Judah, unto the utmost sea,
Deu 34:3 And the south, and the plain of the valley of Jericho, the city of palm trees, unto Zoar.
Deu 34:4 And the LORD said unto him, This is the land which I swore unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, saying, I will give it unto thy seed: I have caused thee to see it with thine eyes, but thou shalt not go over thither.
Deu 34:5 So Moses the servant of the LORD died there in the land of Moab, according to the word of the LORD.


Deu 34:5 So Moses the servant of the LORD died there in the land of Moab, according to the word of the LORD.

Yes, sin can cause the child of God to die before their time. So we need to be very careful and stay away from sin.

[John81]

:amen: Jerry!