Members swathdiver Posted May 30, 2016 Members Posted May 30, 2016 On 5/24/2016 at 10:23 AM, John81 said: World War Two could have rather easily been avoided, yet due to much bungling and lack of future considerations, the world was plunged into a war which continues to reverberate around the world. In the midst of the war many more unwise, unethical and not in our best interest actions were taken by our government (and not ours only). Back to Korea: once America successfully landed at Inchon, and broke out of the Pusan Perimeter, taking clear offensive advantage, that war should have been won. Even after the Chinese "volunteers" entered the war, There was no strategic bungling or lack of future considerations with regards to World War II. One has to remember that the Roosevelt Administration was infested with Communist Spies at the highest levels (even in the White House) and that Washington was subservient to Moscow. At a Democrat Party function in Denver, Colorado in 1949, the Truman Administration stated that Korea was outside the area in which the United States would respond to Communist aggression. Going from memory, not exact wording. This gave the Communists the green light to invade South Korea and America was woefully unprepared to respond effectively, immediately. Now, Chinese Communist troops, not volunteers, went up against our Marines and Soldiers during the Chosin Reservoir campaign. The Red Chinese were in direct combat with US forces for about six months before we admitted it publicly and then treated it as is they had just engaged us. US Navy Admirals and Army Generals said back then the war could be won in Vietnam War by 1964. However, they were hampered and dealt with treasonously by the State Department and White House. Johnson himself used to pick out the individual weapon loads, the routes in and out, targets, and all manner of things he and McNamara had no business micromanaging. That's not bad enough, the bum advertised to our enemies when we were coming and made our boys fly the same routes day after day, slaughtering them. Quote
Members John81 Posted May 30, 2016 Members Posted May 30, 2016 Sounds very similar to the Republican Bush the First who told Saddam if he invaded Kuwait (which Iraq has always considered to be part of Iraq and not a separate nation) that America would consider such an Iraqi internal matter, not an international manner. Then, after Iraq invaded Kuwait Bush the First launched a campaign to demonize Saddam's invasion of Kuwait and called for an international force (mostly American) to move their forces into the region to drive Iraq from Kuwait. Both Parties have long been corrupt and though they believe they are in behind the scenes control they grossly overestimate their own wisdom and power while grossly underestimating the many factors beyond their control. In WWII supposed "Supreme Commander" General Eisenhower was pressured by Churchill and Roosevelt to approve of British General Montgomery's obviously flawed and very long-shot plan to end the war with Germany, which was code named Market Garden. This, despite the fact General Patton had a simple, militarily proven effective plan that in all probability would have seen German resistance crushed and American forces in Berlin in a rather short time frame. So, for the sake of politics hundreds of thousands of American troops (and their allies) were put at greater risk, the war was drawn out for many more months, and through more political interference the Soviets were allowed to not only take Berlin, but most of Eastern Europe. The forces of darkness abound in the halls of governments and they all work toward the goal of keeping men lost and seeing lost men die. This will continue until our Lord returns and rules with a rod of iron. swathdiver 1 Quote
Members Alan Posted June 6, 2016 Author Members Posted June 6, 2016 Just wanted all to know that I appreciate their discussions concerning Taiwan. Here is some more good news from the Senate side of our Government concerning Taiwan. http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2016/06/06/2003648003 This is the first time Senator McCain has traveled to Taiwan and is trying to help the Taiwan Government. Part of the reason for the reason for his trip, and the increased level of interest, in our government, is the recent military moves by mainland China in the islands they are developing for military purposes. Alan Quote
Members John81 Posted June 6, 2016 Members Posted June 6, 2016 In several areas the Chinese have progressed and transgressed upon disputed territories (usually tiny rocky islands) to the point where only military action could remove the Chinese or prevent them from doing more of the same. Will or should America go to war with China because Vietnam, Korea, Philippines and others claim these same places? This is an important question; especially in light of how in several instances some of these nations chose to run away from their claims rather than stand their ground themselves. As the American economy stands now, a trade war with China would have the potential to hurt America more than China. This brings us back to the point of outright military confrontation being the only real thing that could remove and/or prevent these Chinese incursions. China has fully committed themselves in several locations, including actually building larger islands for military use, and establishing small military outposts on others. The Chinese won't simply walk away from these. Thankfully, any attempt to invade Taiwan would be an exceedingly far larger project with many potential negatives China would have to consider. It's good for America to show support for Taiwan but I wish someone more respectable and trustworthy were engaged in this. Alan 1 Quote
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