Why Reject Truth When It Is Given?

[AVBibleBeliever]

Well, don't stone me folks (or if you do, use them little fish tank gravel stones) but I am in agreement with AVBB and Song. Don't mean I follow either or even like them and just because I mention them together don't mean they follow or like each other (or me for that matter).

 

Nobody should be following anybody on here or anywhere else EXCEPT JESUS and your local church leadership.

 

But after all, I am just a smelly hound dog. On the bright side, I got really nice teeth and marvelous singing voice.

I love ya old wretched hound dog.  Scratches on your head. four paws up!

[AVBibleBeliever]

AV, I'm guessing that no one has responded to ASOD's post, because it's not a new topic; it's been discussed here before.  ASOD's position is known here already. 

 

...but that's just my opinion of why no one has responded.  As for me, I've stayed out of this discussion on purpose...I've chosen not to counter anyone or support anyone, because I see this as one of those topics that only lends to people voicing what they believe without convincing other parties either way. I guess many topics are that way though...

 

I hold to the same position.  Yet I was attacked, condemned and called a Ruckmanite for it.

 

Did you all do that to ASOD too when he fist posted his view on the gospels?

[AVBibleBeliever]

I love ya all despite all your nonsense.  I am commanded too.  It wont mean I wont like ya all the time but I'll love and stand up for ya if need be and call ya on some of your stuff just as you would me I hope.

 

 

Oh By the way Happy moderator I did not mean honey in any type of condescending way.  I apologize for gettin your hair in a bunch over using it.  It did take me a while to get over how it riled you up so now I am formally apologizing

[John81]

Nothing new has been said regarding the false teaching of many gospels of salvation so why would everyone bother to respond to each post made?

 

DaveW put forth an excellent post on the matter early on yet it was virtually ignored. In totally scriptural and easy to understand manner he set forth all that really needs to be said.

[ASongOfDegrees]

I hold to the same position.  Yet I was attacked, condemned and called a Ruckmanite for it.

 

Did you all do that to ASOD too when he fist posted his view on the gospels?

I've been called a heretic on a few occasions. It doesn't bother me. I just don't push too hard the issue like the one in this thread about the different gospels. Just plant the seed and hope that someday they'll see it. It's not important enough to disfellowship over because they still preach the gospel of the grace of God and believe the other most important doctrines. Getting the right divisions in the bible does help with handling the supposed "contradictions" in the bible, though and helps ease the mind over some of the difficult passages like Hebrews 6:4-8.. What does bothers me, though is when someone doesn't even want to address the scriptures at hand or bending the scripture to say something it doesn't just to fit Baptist doctrine.  If someone puts up a thread asking about something like Hebrews 6:4-8 I'm gonna give my view but I'm not going to fight or get mad over it.

[ASongOfDegrees]

Nothing new has been said regarding the false teaching of many gospels of salvation so why would everyone bother to respond to each post made?

 

DaveW put forth an excellent post on the matter early on yet it was virtually ignored. In totally scriptural and easy to understand manner he set forth all that really needs to be said.

Where's this post?

[ASongOfDegrees]

I don't understand why everyone is so bent out of shape that there is more than one gospel in scripture but only one that applies to us today. The word means "good news" and there were plenty of times good news was preached. It's not like anyone is preaching a false gospel. If anything it will help you avoid preaching a false gospel based on Acts 2:38.

[AVBibleBeliever]

John 3
 14  And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:

 15  That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

 16  For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

 17  For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

 18  He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Acts 2
21  And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.
(Peter's Gospel stated)

38  Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
(Peter's Gospel explained - the same as John's Gospel...)


Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
(Paul's Gospel - scope of. )


The detail of Paul's Gospel:
1 Corinthians 15

 1  Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;

 2  By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.

 3  For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

 4  And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

Romans 10
 9  That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

 10  For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

I don't know - it seems to me that Jesus said a man is saved by believing on Him.
it seems that Peter said a man is saved by believing on Jesus.
It seems like Paul said a man is saved by believing on Jesus.

I guess I am just too dim to understand what the Bible says.
I guess I need some man to explain how these words don't mean what they appear to mean.

Even John's Gospel fits with this - who was He pointing the people to?
Jesus Christ - he preached many things just as preachers do today, but not all of those things were "his Gospel".

Poor me - I read the Bible and come to a particular opinion on a thing that is obviously wrong. Where will I find a man to show me the error of my understanding, since I can't trust what the Word of God says alone.

here is it ASOD

[No Nicolaitans]

I hold to the same position.  Yet I was attacked, condemned and called a Ruckmanite for it.

 

Did you all do that to ASOD too when he fist posted his view on the gospels?

 

I don't remember if ASOD was attacked or not; he's been a member here much longer than me. However, this is one of those topics that comes up every so often.

 

I do have one question in regards to the "everlasting gospel" of Revelation 14:6-7.  If you've already explained your view on it, I apologize for asking you to repeat it. You don't have to if you don't want to.

 

If the everlasting gospel in Revelation 14 is a means of salvation, how so? I see it simply as what the Creator expects from his creation. I don't see it as a means of salvation. I see nothing promising salvation in it.

 

If you choose to respond, I won't attack your answer in any way...

[No Nicolaitans]

I don't remember if ASOD was attacked or not; he's been a member here much longer than me.

 

Correction...according to the dates, I've been a member here much longer than he has; however, I was inactive here for quite some time. I didn't mean to give false information.

[AVBibleBeliever]

I don't understand why everyone is so bent out of shape that there is more than one gospel in scripture but only one that applies to us today. The word means "good news" and there were plenty of times good news was preached. It's not like anyone is preaching a false gospel. If anything it will help you avoid preaching a false gospel based on Acts 2:38.

They weren't so bent out of shape over that it was their false interpretation that I was being condescending, prideful, and sarcastic.  But it was evident that it was ok for all of them to be and do that.  I figured it was misplaced identification, you know that psychological thing where a person interprets another's words with their own personal Characteristics.  But heck I could be wrong.

[AVBibleBeliever]

I don't remember if ASOD was attacked or not; he's been a member here much longer than me. However, this is one of those topics that comes up every so often.

 

I do have one question in regards to the "everlasting gospel" of Revelation 14:6-7.  If you've already explained your view on it, I apologize for asking you to repeat it. You don't have to if you don't want to.

 

If the everlasting gospel in Revelation 14 is a means of salvation, how so? I see it simply as what the Creator expects from his creation. I don't see it as a means of salvation. I see nothing promising salvation in it.

 

If you choose to respond, I won't attack your answer in any way...

Thanks it is over on eternal security thread already.  post #78

 

remember over there just like here I have always been accused of being uncharitable, proud, arrogant, know it all, sarcastic and condescending.

 

It seems instead of getting response about what is written they attack me as to their supposed interpretation of how I may have said something, as if they knew my heart the moment it came from my finger tips.

[candlelight]

You always have an answer for everything, AVBB.  Oh, I forgot.  You don't believe a woman should be discussing anything on Online Baptist, as a woman should be silent.  You take the Apostle Paul's words out of context, as it pertains to the church and not this forum.  

[AVBibleBeliever]

You always have an answer for everything, AVBB.  Oh, I forgot.  You don't believe a woman should be discussing anything on Online Baptist, as a woman should be silent.  You take the Apostle Paul's words out of context, as it pertains to the church and not this forum.  

stick to the topic at hand and stop attacking me

 

show me the church in the context?

 

No church in the whole chapter.

[John81]

Look at all the false accusations you have made in unchristian ways and yet you now want to take a verbal jab at Candlelight.

 

Your conduct of late has been very improper.