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  1. isn't there a difference between using and believing the KJV Bible?
  2. there are three books with that title one from the Morman's, one from the church universal and triumphant I am cult, and the ones these quote from. All three use the same rejected manuscript. all three are in error. but then why do people lump it in and make it worth a look see? Anything to weaken and cheapen true Christianity.
  3. So you are not a protestant Irishman, and you are not a catholic Irishman. So seeing you are here you must be a independent Baptist Irishman. Seeing baptist are not from the roman catholic church reformation of Luther, Wesley, Calvin, and the rest of the lot.
  4. Eternity is the begining it is from everlasting. From everlasting to everlasting is the time quantum of God, however the 24/7 according to scriptures, God's words on this, is that he established the 24/7 on the first day of his six day work. Gen 1:3 ¶ And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. 4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. 5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
  5. Gen, God established the 24/7 time encapsulation for man in Genesis 1:3-5. and then placed it in a firmament to which that time works well for man after his creation. God created the 24/7 before he set the sun and moon in revolution around the earth. Anytime existence before that is known in scriptures as eternity, eternal, from everlasting to everlasting. It is said that the high and lofty one inhabits eternity that means from beginning to end (hence the alpha and Omega identification in scriptures) of it this is why he is eternal and why he can be everywhere and know all things. That is because he is the almighty God. Both David and Peter say a day is as of a thousand years. they both speak from within the 24/7 time quantum to express something they did not understand at that time in their earthly existence, which is eternity. I do not deny the existence of a time quantum before the 24/7. But our current time quantum of the 24/7 was established in Gen 1:3-5 on day one of God's six days of work. god's time quantum is from everlasting to everlasting. You will notice in the scripture below, preserved for us in Gods word that the Earth and the World were two separate creations. Ps 90:2 Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God.
  6. who is Peter preaching too? For a hint see the underlined Ac 2:5 ¶ And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven. Jews from every country 6 Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language. 7 And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans? 8 And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born? 9 Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia, 10 Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes, 11 Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God. 12 And they were all amazed, and were in doubt, saying one to another, What meaneth this? 13 Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine. 14 ¶ But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea (Jews), and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words: 15 For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day. 16 But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; 17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: 18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy: 19 And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke: 20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come: 21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved. 22 Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know: 23 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain: 24 Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it. Peter continues by quoting a Jew named David 25 For David speaketh concerning him, I foresaw the Lord always before my face, for he is on my right hand, that I should not be moved: 26 Therefore did my heart rejoice, and my tongue was glad; moreover also my flesh shall rest in hope: 27 Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption. 28 Thou hast made known to me the ways of life; thou shalt make me full of joy with thy countenance. 29 Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day. 30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne; 31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption. 32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses. 33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear. 34 For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, 35 Until I make thy foes thy footstool. 36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ. 37 ¶ Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do? 38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. Is this the Gospel which Paul preached? I thro not. 39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children( the promises are to the Jews), and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call. 40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation. Is this the gospel of of Grace taught by Paul? 41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls. 3000 Jews according to the context. Who is Peter talking too? Ac 3:1 ¶ Now Peter and John went up together into the temple at the hour of prayer, being the ninth hour. 2 And a certain man lame from his mother's womb was carried, whom they laid daily at the gate of the temple which is called Beautiful, to ask alms of them that entered into the temple; 3 Who seeing Peter and John about to go into the temple asked an alms. 4 And Peter, fastening his eyes upon him with John, said, Look on us. 5 And he gave heed unto them, expecting to receive something of them. 6 Then Peter said, Silver and gold have I none; but such as I have give I thee: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth rise up and walk. 7 And he took him by the right hand, and lifted him up: and immediately his feet and ankle bones received strength. 8 And he leaping up stood, and walked, and entered with them into the temple, walking, and leaping, and praising God. 9 And all the people saw him walking and praising God: Who are the people in the temple? Only Jews are allowed in the temple. 10 And they knew that it was he which sat for alms at the Beautiful gate of the temple: and they were filled with wonder and amazement at that which had happened unto him. 11 And as the lame man which was healed held Peter and John, all the people ran together unto them in the porch that is called Solomon's, greatly wondering. 12 ¶ And when Peter saw it, he answered unto the people, Ye men of Israel (These spoken too are Jews), why marvel ye at this? or why look ye so earnestly on us, as though by our own power or holiness we had made this man to walk? 13 The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of JacOB, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Son Jesus; whom ye delivered up, and denied him in the presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let him go. 14 But ye denied the Holy One and the Just, and desired a murderer to be granted unto you; 15 And killed the Prince of life, whom God hath raised from the dead; whereof we are witnesses. 16 And his name through faith in his name hath made this man strong, whom ye see and know: yea, the faith which is by him hath given him this perfect soundness in the presence of you all. 17 And now, brethren, I wot that through ignorance ye did it, as did also your rulers. 18 But those things, which God before had shewed by the mouth of all his prophets, that Christ should suffer, he hath so fulfilled. 19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come (when is the times of refreshing? and why is it their sins wont be blotted out until then, but mine sins are already blotted out?) from the presence of the Lord; Is this the gospel of Taught by Paul that you and I believed? 20 And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you: what exactly is being preached about Jesus and who preached it? 21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things (when is the restitution of all things?), which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began. 22 For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you. who are the fathers, the brethren and you? These are Jews of course. 23 And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people. 24 Yea, and all the prophets from Samuel and those that follow after, as many as have spoken, have likewise foretold of these days. 25 Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed. who are the children of the prophets, and the fathers? Jews again 26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities. Is anyone saved by turning away from their iniquities? again who is Peter speaking too? Ac 4:1 ¶ And as they spake unto the people, the priests, and the captain of the temple, and the Sadducees, came upon them, They were in the temple preaching and the captains and the saddcees (who don't beleive in the ressurrection) heard them. Jews are being spoken too again. 2 Being grieved that they taught the people, and preached through Jesus the resurrection from the dead. the people are Jews OBviously. 3 And they laid hands on them, and put them in hold unto the next day: for it was now eventide. 4 Howbeit many of them which heard the word believed; and the number of the men was about five thousand. them are the Jews who heard. and what was the word they believed on? It was not the Gospel Paul preached or what you as Independent Baptist believed? it is a gospel of their resurrected king and messiah, the Christ, coming for his kingdom to which they are encouraged to not only beleive (like we are today) but to repent, be baptised, that in the coming of the Lord they will receive the blotting out (forgiveness of their sins) unlike you and I who HAVE NOW the forgiveness of our sins Eph 1:7, and we needed not to repent of our iniquities but only that we turn to God the repentance Paul taught when he said in Act 17:30 and 26:20. Again and again we see at the time just after Christ Ascension the church is a solely Jewish one either by birth (why one must be born again) or Gentile by conversion to which afterwards they are considered a JEW if in fact there were any Gentiles at Peters preaching in the temple. My point is you must identify which church to know that the church Peter preached to was of the circumcision and God added to it many Jews and Jewish converts. So we must ask, Which Gospel is being preached? remember we have not heard Peter say once that CHRIST DIED FOR OUR SINS which Paul said was the gospel he got from Chris himself. It would seem that it was that Christ was of the line of David and is their King, their messiah. this is what was being preached it is what was earlier preached by Peter the eleven and the 70/72 during Christ earthly ministry. and this belief was paramount to the coming kingdom had the leadership of the Jews not rejected God the Holy Ghost in Acts 5. We see three times in the Scriptures that the Jews, represented by their leadership, rejected God the father in the OT, God the Son in the Gospels and God the Holy Ghost in Acts 5. OBservation goes a long way in determining who, what, why, when, where, which and how, these are the tools for understanding the preserved interpretation of God's words as found in the Authorized Version. All scriptures is for our learning but not all for our current church doctrine, which church is as important as which Gospel. Ok, now we have some info at our fingertips the church here of baptized believers first of the Gospel preached by John the baptist and some being baptized by John known as the baptist. which church was john the baptist baptizing? A Jewish church it would seem and the early church that peter continued could be called a baptist church. but the gospel is not the gospel of the baptist church today. So there is no way anyone could claim that their lines go back to John the baptist because they are teaching a different Gospel than John the baptist, Jesus Christ and Peter. Hence no baptist church today can claim John the baptist is of their line and that they are the TRUE church because they are preaching two different gospels. hence what is going on in this thread is nothing more than the carnality of men striving to say I am of one group over another. 1Cor 1:12 Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ. 13 Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul? 1Cor 3:1 ¶ And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ. 2 I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able. 3 For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men? 4 For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?
  7. I do not believe the earth is millions of years old. I believe it is no more than and equality of one day or a thousand years older than Gen. 1:2. Having said that the quote above says, "science is figuring our that there was water on earth before anything else." According to Gen 1:2 water was on the earth before the six day work of God in the beginning of this current world and the creation of man. However Science does not believe there was water on the earth in the beginning. They believe a comet brought building blocks of life and water to the earth. here is a quote from the recent failed comet landing prOBe scientist, "One of the things they are most excited about is the possibility that the mission might help confirm that comets brought the building blocks of life — organic matter and water — to Earth. Again, I believe God's preserved word is true no matter what ANY man, saved or unsaved says, if Proverbs 8 is giving us a correct chronological view from everlasting about the exaltation of the wisdom of God (Jesus being that wisdom), Earth, the depth, the fountains of water, then there was no water on the earth when God first created it. Sometime between the creation of the earth and Gen1:2, which would be between 1 day and a thousand years, iniquity was found in Lucifer and God judged that iniquity by allowing the waters to break forth from its ordained place and flood the earth not killing anything but destroying the throne Lucifer was trying to exalt above God. Thereby bringing sin and darkness into the depths of God's heaven. God solved the resulting darkness by calling for light, establishing the 24 hour time calculus on day one, and stop the darkness from expanding into his holy heaven by placing a firmament around the darkness encapsulating the waters below from those above on the second day. Once done he could move on into his will for this earth which ultimately is for the exaltation of Jesus Christ and the establishment of his throne forever (see Revelation 21-22). No death before Adams sin, no pre-Adamic life, all fossil records are from the flood of Noah, no dust on the moon from billions or millions of years, no deep sediments on the ocean floors from billions or millions of years of erosion.
  8. It is the unbiblical remarks that people find so honorable that God's word is lost in the gooiness of sophism and philosophy of worldliness. When men honor God's word enough to teach it just as it is and bring out BIBLICAL points that are clearly seen then I will hold my peace. I will not prefer a man who adds to the word of God even in this. He said, clearly said, and I quote," as the Lord Jesus Himself has commanded, our first priority in every decision should be to do that which honors the kingdom of Christ and His righteousness" Christ did not say it once nor command it, find it but it is not there. this is an unbiblical re wording of the word of God (that is what the serpent did). honor him if you may but it is not found it is an OPINION of what he thinks God word is saying. quote me the command that says "to do that which honors the kingdom of Christ". I pointed our the subtil change of the words that makes it an error and an opinion. Accept it our not but you will be held accountable not I. the prOBlem with men is they love the opinions of men over the clear words of God.
  9. a little leaven goes a long way. only a pinch of poison given over a long period of time will still kill. It may sound good but it does not make it biblical. We have replaced God's clear teaching in his word for what men teach as God's word. The more familiar you are with Gods word the easier it is to spot the unbiblical opinions, assumptions and pretextual comments of men.
  10. There is just so much unbiblical teaching and error in this article there is just no where to start in refuting or correcting it. While I commend them on their wanting to reach out to their community to do so with so many unbiblical practices in reaching out it is more like secular outreach to get people to join any other group. This I will say, Jesus, and the 11 with their gospel of the Kingdom, nor Paul with the Gospel of the grace of God, never did any secular act to reach the people with the Gospel of their day. So why do men try and do it today?
  11. It is one way of changing the word of God in unsaved people lives so that they question the Bible validity. When the secular entertainment industry makes a so called Bible movie they always make it secular and make man to be the saviour and not Christ.
  12. 1) This is one of the catch teachings of the JW's 2) The context of Jer is Idols carved from trees. 3) While it is true that Christmas is not the day of Christ's Birth, it is the time of year that the sun (life sustaining force for plants and men) is the furthest away from the planet. Meditate on that for a moment. When my life was furthest from Christ that is the time in which he saved me. 4) Is there not freewill if you want to follow a secular holiday or not? My only qualm with it is that it promotes greed and covetousness in peoples hearts when all they can say is I want, I want, I want. 5) If you want it to be the day that you give gifts and make merry with your fellow man then so be it. should not we emulate God's giving of his son the ulimate gift that brings salvation? What other day do you do that during the year?
  13. Notice that the last point in Morris's list. His leading verse is SEEK ye first, not HONOR ye first. The commandment is to seek not honor. There are plenty of unsaved men who feel they honor God and his kingdom. It is not honor the kingdom of Christ and his righteousness, and all these things will be added unto you. Do you see the subtil change in the words of God? Is this not what the serpent did in Gen 3 when he said "Yea, hath God said Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden"? And it is the Kingdom of God not the Kingdom of Christ one is to seek. For some of you would argue they are the same but they are not the same thing. Remember this general rule of thumb in the Bible, "things that are different are not the same". Kingdom of Christ is found one time in scriptures (Eph 5:5) while Kingdom of God is found 69 times. Kingdom of God are found 55 times in the gospel writings, 6 times in the historical transitional book of Acts, and 8 times in Paul's church epistles. Subtil little errors like this are known as false teachings and are also known as leaven. The prOBlem is other men of god will parrot these lies until they become so traditionally taught that no one questions the validity, then soon after their teaching becomes rife with false statements such as these. The average Christian, who does not have familiarity with their Bible, are lulled into a sense of confidence in a man and fail to search the scriptures to see if what is taught is true to the words of God. Gal 5:9 A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump.
  14. It is a nOBle thing but many others have done it already. What will make your's any different? I ask this to motivate. If you answer it correctly that will be the basis for your whole booklet.
  15. Don't forget the parable of the sower. some of God's words falls on hard ground, some on rocky, some in the weeds, and some in good ground producing fruit. three times as often the word does not produce any long lasting fruit. Be glad we are of that one part that produces great fruit. I myself personally have led over 700 to faith in the Lord Jesus Christ's finished work of the cross as a substitutionary death for their sins, buried and rising again the third day giving them a living hope of life in Christ forever. Again the context of Romans tells where Paul is speaking to the Jew. In Acts 13:16-41 Paul reaches out to the Jews with the same message Peter gives in Acts 2 with one added point that through Christ was the forgiveness of sins. But after that he speaks the gospel differently to the Jews and goes to some privately in Acts 18:22 (as told in Gal 2:2) and tells them of the gospel he received and taught of the Lord (1Cor 15:3,4; Gal 1:11,12). By Acts 18:6 Paul makes it clear he will no longer go to them separately. God's Word shows us how to identify where Paul spoke to Jews differently and separately and then changed it. Search the scriptures and see if it is so. It takes years of honest study, not given to the traditions we are taught and teaching, allowing God's word to tear those lies down and to see God's word as the truth it is instead of our teachings of his word. See my last post on the "what is being Taught" thread as one of those traditions that is not true to the word of God but many a man teach them. While some of you have not heard some teach these things I and others have. God's word is sharper than any sword and if you let it, it will severe you from the traditional teachings of men and the truth of his words. I am no better than any but one thing is my hearts desire from God's words is to know truth. And as long as my heart is pure in that God shows me it in his word, just like he showed me that the AV is the preserved, whole, complete, inerrant words of God.
  16. Knowing it and having faith in that are two entirely different worlds. I too as a catholic Knew it but was never taught to have faith in it. we were told to have faith in Mary, in Peter. I agree that Eph 2 tells us that Christ dying for us in by his grace. It is not faith in God's grace alone that saves, it is through faith in Christ's death for our sins that saves, and that is God's grace.
  17. I think you are saying following Paul but he is not, He uses Paul's writings as basis to understanding scriptures. But his prOBlem is pretexting the scriptures with NT ideas of Paul and placing them onto OT scriptures, that is wrong and will create false teaching. Don't judge ALL men who use Paul's writings as a guideline for church doctrine just because this guy is in error. That is like judging all Christians based on Roman Catholic practices. It is further more like saying all Christians are guilty of the Crusading wars that were perpetrated by the RC church. Just because this nut misuses scripture and does not truly rightly divide the word properly does not mean that all are guilty of his offenses that use Paul's church writings as a base for church doctrine today. I think you are seeing his false teaching and that is good but to think everyone who promotes using church writings for a basis of church age doctrines are like him that is a error of judgement. the term the Most High is one of many titles of God, as is Jehovah and it's combination names. While Jehovah is used very few times in the scriptures the Hebrew term JHVH translated as LORD. that is because when they came to the JHVH they said LORD and not Jehovah out of fear they would use it in vain and violate the commandment. there were other terms used by gentiles it was Almighty God and God Almighty those who use the term Jehovah and Yeshua or JAH on a regular basis in refering to God are cultic and usually promote teaching that puts people back under law. But then again anyone who says that members of the body of Christ in their assembly must tithe or they are in sin also are putting their members under the law, a commandment given for all Israel Only. While Paul taught what so ever a man purpose in his heart let him lay that aside and bring it on the first day of the week when they assembled.
  18. yepper he makes a false statement that is for sure. His prOBlem is he projects his NT bread and wine of the Lord's Table back into the OT where there is no Lord's Table. We are not talking about the Lords table in Malachi so don't go there with that one. For those who think otherwise, I don't follow Paul. And I don"t know who this Les guy is and don't think I will listen to or follow him. I recommend that you just read your bibles and all false teaching, even from David Cloud, will appear as it is "false".
  19. The one I know called the Romans Road is used because they only use verses from the book of Romans. But no routine saves only your faith in the knowledge that Christ died for your sins, was buried and rose again the third day. All other knowledge is unnecessary until after salvation. IMHO
  20. That is the same as was sent to me also. a brisk walking machine is good to use if you can't get out and walk because of pollution or weather. 20-25minutes brisk walks and a good stretching regime each day is all one needs.
  21. Jordan, find all 12 of Paul's reaffirmations of 9 of the ten commandments in his letters and list them out and see the difference between them and the ten commandments. Paul teaches them to the saved not as a commandment to follow but as a lifestyle to live.
  22. Paul starts the book of Romans speaking to three groups of people in the first three Chapters of the epistle. the children of wrath who are already given over to sin that there is no hope for them, the lost who may be saved, and the Jews who trust the law to save. Who are the people Paul is speaking too in parts of Romans chapter 2 and 3? It is Jews. the letter to the Romans was written during his "go to the Jew first ministry" which ended by Acts 18. Acts 18:6 And when they opposed themselves, and blasphemed, he shook his raiment, and said unto them, Your blood be upon your own heads; I am clean: from henceforth I will go unto the Gentiles. In Roms 3, Paul is confronting the Jews and their claim to have an advantage over the rest of mankind. Read verse one. and them thinking they are righteous because they are the chosen people of God who He had entrusted them with the oracles (words) of God. He also makes the "are we better than they" claim in verse 9 where he is speaking of them being Jews, because the Jews thought themselves better than the Gentiles who they also referred to as the heathens. But Paul proved that both Jew and Gentile are all under sin. The "we" in verse 19 again it is Paul's identification with the Jews. and that they know the Law is for them who are under the law. Who are they which are under the law? The Jews of course. But Paul elaborates and states that the law will not justify them but their faith in Jesus Christ. Under the Kingdom gospel their faith that he is the chosen one of God, the king of the Jews. Under the current Gospel of Grace for all men that "Christ died for our sins". A little division goes a long way in understanding God's holy words.
  23. There is no need to use the ten commandments on gentiles Mal 4:4 ¶ Remember ye the law of Moses my servant, which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel, with the statutes and judgments. God says he commanded it for all Israel not for all men or Gentiles. Every man knows they have thought dirty thoughts, spoke lies, use some form of curse words, stole Hated etc etc etc. All men know by nature they are sinners therefore children of wrath deserving hell. What they need to know is that Christ died for their sins and his shed blood has opened a way they can have fellowship with God and don't have to go to hell. Something that they did not and could not have otherwise. Ephesians 2:11 ¶ Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; 12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: 13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.

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