When Should A Christian Leave A Church Membership

[heartstrings]

So you use God as a tax deduction because the law allows it, amazing, what does the law have to do with giving to the Lord? Nothing.

 

Yes, lots of people tries to use God in many different ways, tax deduction is just one of many.

 

Try giving to the Lord your God freely, cheerfully,  with no strings attacked, you know, just trust Him, & not use Him as a tax deduction.

Can I jump in here a sec?

 

You ask "what does the law have to do with giving to the Lord?" God established and sanctioned human government for starters. And If God has blessed us with a government which still allows the freedom of tax exemption for churches, what's wrong with an individual's gifts to a church being tax deductible too? How is that "using God as a tax deduction"?   Why not give, take the tax deduction, and cheerfully thank God for it? Besides, the Godless way our country is going, I don't think it will be too long before those tax deductions cease to be.

[The Glory Land]

So you use God as a tax deduction because the law allows it, amazing, what does the law have to do with giving to the Lord? Nothing.

 

Yes, lots of people tries to use God in many different ways, tax deduction is just one of many.

 

Try giving to the Lord your God freely, cheerfully,  with no strings attacked, you know, just trust Him, & not use Him as a tax deduction.

 

 

 

I guess somebody that is cheap giving unto the Lord, has no need in filing out their taxes.  He a Cheapo...

[The Glory Land]

 

Not true, you need to go back to the Bible, I'll help you.

 

Mr 14:13 And he sendeth forth two of his disciples, and saith unto them, Go ye into the city, and there shall meet you a man bearing a pitcher of water: follow him.

Mr 14:14 And wheresoever he shall go in, say ye to the goodman of the house, The Master saith, Where is the guestchamber, where I shall eat the passover with my disciples?

Mr 14:15 And he will shew you a large upper room furnished and prepared: there make ready for us.

Mr 14:16 And his disciples went forth, and came into the city, and found as he had said unto them: and they made ready the passover.

Mr 14:17 And in the evening he cometh with the twelve.

Mr 14:18 And as they sat and did eat, Jesus said, Verily I say unto you, One of you which eateth with me shall betray me.

Mr 14:19 And they began to be sorrowful, and to say unto him one by one, Is it I? and another said, Is it I?

Mr 14:20 And he answered and said unto them, It is one of the twelve, that dippeth with me in the dish.

Mr 14:21 The Son of man indeed goeth, as it is written of him: but woe to that man by whom the Son of man is betrayed! good were it for that man if he had never been born.

Mr 14:22 And as they did eat, Jesus took bread, and blessed, and brake it, and gave to them, and said, Take, eat: this is my body.

Mr 14:23 And he took the cup, and when he had given thanks, he gave it to them: and they all drank of it.

Mr 14:24 And he said unto them, This is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many.

Mr 14:25 Verily I say unto you, I will drink no more of the fruit of the vine, until that day that I drink it new in the kingdom of God.

Mr 14:26 And when they had sung an hymn, they went out into the mount of Olives.

 

Yes, this was done privately, just the 12 & Himself.

 

So your totally wrong, Jesus did things privately. There were other believers in this world at that time, but He did not open the door to them.

 

 

 

 

Does upper room means private, or maybe follow him?   

 

[OLD fashioned preacher]

So you use God as a tax deduction because the law allows it, amazing, what does the law have to do with giving to the Lord? Nothing.

 

Yes, lots of people tries to use God in many different ways, tax deduction is just one of many.

 

Try giving to the Lord your God freely, cheerfully,  with no strings attacked, you know, just trust Him, & not use Him as a tax deduction.

 

 

I guess somebody that is cheap giving unto the Lord, has no need in filing out their taxes.  He a Cheapo...

Just plain wow. Let's see if I understand this right. Glory Land thinks that anyone who doesn't list his contributions as a deduction isn't giving much. Jerry thinks that if a person can't take the deduction he will only "tip" God.

 

btw TGL, if this was meant generically it is an unsubstantiated generization. If it was meant direct at Jerry -- it can be cut short NOW (with no need for response Jerry).

[OLD fashioned preacher]

I know a man (I used to do his taxes), his income was $75-80K. He gave to his church (IBC) $25-30K. If he didn't take the deduction his taxes would be just short of $5K higher. ----- so, are we to believe that if he wasn't allowed to reduce his taxes by $5000 then he would drop his giving by $25,000-30,000??

[The Glory Land]

Give with a cheerful heart...

[JerryNumbers]

I guess somebody that is cheap giving unto the Lord, has no need in filing out their taxes.  He a Cheapo...

 

 

That's really being Christ like,you've just shown your true self.

 

And using your Lord as a tax deduction, amazing to keep from sacrificing for His sake.

[JerryNumbers]

 

 

 

You need to do more reading, if you will you will find that only Jesus & the 12 were present, that my friend is private, not open to all believers.

 

Your the one that stated Jesus never did anything private, & I showed you that the Lord's Supper was private.

[The Glory Land]

You need to do more reading, if you will you will find that only Jesus & the 12 were present, that my friend is private, not open to all believers.

Your the one that stated Jesus never did anything private, & I showed you that the Lord's Supper was private.

They did not have the comfortor or were saved yet, but called to His service. They the twelve were still in basic training.

[The Glory Land]

All except one.