Members Thinking Posted May 4 Members Share Posted May 4 27 minutes ago, BrotherTony said: Presence and coming are two separate things...tell me you have a better grasp of the English language than that... Too bad you're lacking it in Greek. "Presence" is literal. The KJV made one of it's many errors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John Young Posted May 4 Author Members Share Posted May 4 3 hours ago, Thinking said: He is already here. "What will be the sign of your presence ("coming"- KJV)?" His Spirit is with us but Jesus Himself is not as he must remain in heaven interceding for us until his return. The Four Stage Return is about Jesus Christ returning. John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. John 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. Galatians 4:6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father. Acts 3:19-21 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord; 20 and he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you: 21 whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Thinking Posted May 4 Members Share Posted May 4 32 minutes ago, John Young said: His Spirit is with us but Jesus Himself is not as he must remain in heaven interceding for us until his return. The Four Stage Return is about Jesus Christ returning. John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. John 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. Galatians 4:6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father. Acts 3:19-21 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord; 20 and he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you: 21 whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.  Jesus is spirit. He is present. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John Young Posted May 4 Author Members Share Posted May 4 24 minutes ago, Thinking said: Jesus is spirit. He is present. Luke 24:37-43 But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit. 38 And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts? 39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have. 40 And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them his hands and his feet. 41 And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat? 42 And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb. 43 And he took it, and did eat before them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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