Lottery In The Church = Gambling

[JerryNumbers]

You can sell or raise money for a cause, then bring it to the church. Why does it have to be done on the Lords property. I know land, parking, and location is tempting. But once you open the doors for one thing, watch out. I won't be surprise that some of these Mega churches, will have a McDonalds and other fast food stores in them soon. they will soon become a super fund raiser?  I have a Miller Lite, with my Sub please. 

 

Why? Lots of churches are not filled with Christians & they sell the Gospel instead of taking it to the lost freely.

[Galations 2:20]

Why? Lots of churches are not filled with Christians & they sell the Gospel instead of taking it to the lost freely.

Luke 6:38 Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again. 

 

Scripture does not prohibit selling items (books, CD's, sermons and the like) as the gospel is furthered for the glory of Christ?

 

1 Corinthians 10:31 Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God. 

 

 When Jesus cleared the temple the people were not conducting themselves as Christians.but taking advantage of one another and charging exorbitant pricing for animals to sacrifice and other necessities.  Yes some Christians still do take advantage of others today because there is nothing new under the sun.

 

The Lord wills for all to be running over with joy, blessings, and monetarily as well in some cases as He deems.  Those who gain financially are to be good stewards (not million dollar homes for themselves) of what Christ has bountifully given, including giving of the bounty into the church.  

 

Playing a lottery is different than selling items as it is a game of chance and not scriptural to test the Lord in that way for financial blessing.  Yes casting lots were done as well in biblical times.

 

 

 

 

Luke 12:48 But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.  

 

All will give an account of their stewardship in all areas including financial and finally scripture tells us to be content Phil 4:11 with our standing in Christ whether it be rags or riches.

[JerryNumbers]

Luke 6:38 Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again. 

 

Scripture does not prohibit selling items (books, CD's, sermons and the like) as the gospel is furthered for the glory of Christ?

 

1 Corinthians 10:31 Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God. 

 

 When Jesus cleared the temple the people were not conducting themselves as Christians.but taking advantage of one another and charging exorbitant pricing for animals to sacrifice and other necessities.  Yes some Christians still do take advantage of others today because there is nothing new under the sun.

 

The Lord wills for all to be running over with joy, blessings, and monetarily as well in some cases as He deems.  Those who gain financially are to be good stewards (not million dollar homes for themselves) of what Christ has bountifully given, including giving of the bounty into the church.  

 

Playing a lottery is different than selling items as it is a game of chance and not scriptural to test the Lord in that way for financial blessing.  Yes casting lots were done as well in biblical times.

 

 

 

 

Luke 12:48 But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.  

 

All will give an account of their stewardship in all areas including financial and finally scripture tells us to be content Phil 4:11 with our standing in Christ whether it be rags or riches.

 

NO, many put the Gospel up for sale, it should not be sold, the local church should hand it out freely Jesus says to His local churches, Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Ame:.

 

 

Mt 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Mt 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

 

He never says go sell.

[The Glory Land]

Luke 6:38 Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.

Scripture does not prohibit selling items (books, CD's, sermons and the like) as the gospel is furthered for the glory of Christ?

1 Corinthians 10:31 Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God.

When Jesus cleared the temple the people were not conducting themselves as Christians.but taking advantage of one another and charging exorbitant pricing for animals to sacrifice and other necessities. Yes some Christians still do take advantage of others today because there is nothing new under the sun.

The Lord wills for all to be running over with joy, blessings, and monetarily as well in some cases as He deems. Those who gain financially are to be good stewards (not million dollar homes for themselves) of what Christ has bountifully given, including giving of the bounty into the church.

Playing a lottery is different than selling items as it is a game of chance and not scriptural to test the Lord in that way for financial blessing. Yes casting lots were done as well in biblical times.




Luke 12:48 But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.

All will give an account of their stewardship in all areas including financial and finally scripture tells us to be content Phil 4:11 with our standing in Christ whether it be rags or riches.

If one of your church members won the lottery, would you accept the tithe?

[candlelight]

If one of your church members won the lottery, would you accept the tithe?

 

Ooooo, TGL, you said the word, "tithe". 

It would be tempting, but my answer would be "no".  I know the Bible says it's wrong.

[The Glory Land]

I just recently heard that my Mom has been doing the lottery. I would have never dreamed that.

l.p.





This is not to worry, let those that want to play, play. I did in the past. Nobody will go to Hell for playing lottery. Just not a good investment.

[John81]

First, our pastor would point out that a tithe is not required. Second, our pastor would point out that lottery winnings are gained through gambling and our church doesn't want to be associated with that.  

[John81]

Still unable to Quote on OB.

 

The idea that "one won't go to hell for playing lottery" is a bad one that's wrongly applied by lost and saved alike.

 

If a lost person were able to keep every point in the law except one "minor" point, he would go to hell. That one sin is huge in the eyes of God and totally separates Him from the sinner. Without Christ, that one sin will lead them to hell.

 

For the saved person, we are called to "be ye holy, for I am holy" and "be ye perfect". Those are the marks we are to aim for. Scripture also tells us the one who truly loves the Lord is the one who keeps His commandments. Out of love, respect, reverence and awe we should seek to eliminate sin in our lives (through His strength, not our own) rather than to excuse sin, any sin, as if any sin is a trivial matter in God's eyes.

 

While we may look at ourselves and see but a speck of dust upon us, when God looks at us through His holy eyes He sees us as covered in mud. We too easily make light of sin and we most often fail to acknowledge just how big a matter sin is to the Lord. When we engage in sin we grieve the Holy Ghost which resides in us.

 

No, we should look upon no sin as not being a big deal. We should not make some sins of little importance by saying it doesn't matter because we won't go to hell because of this or that particular sin.

 

Our hearts should ache when we sin, driving us to our knees in confession and repentance unto the Lord.

[Standing Firm In Christ]

Ooooo, TGL, you said the word, "tithe". 
It would be tempting, but my answer would be "no".  I know the Bible says it's wrong.

the Bible also says the tithe was for the children of Israel and was food. Yet the church teaches it is for Jew and Gentile alike and is money.

The church takes a big gamble when they twist the truth of the tithes into a lie.

[John81]

Be careful, TGLs other thread got locked even though it was a pretty civil thread. Some don't like their tithe toes stepped on.

[candlelight]

the Bible also says the tithe was for the children of Israel and was food. Yet the church teaches it is for Jew and Gentile alike and is money.

The church takes a big gamble when they twist the truth of the tithes into a lie.

If have no intention of getting into another discussion with you, SFIC.  Yet, here you are.  Trying to egg me on.  Nice try.  My comment was a joke for TGL, not for you to engage in another battle.

[Standing Firm In Christ]

If have no intention of getting into another discussion with you, SFIC. Yet, here you are. Trying to egg me on. Nice try. My comment was a joke for TGL, not for you to engage in another battle.

I was merely pointing out the truth. Which, as John so rightly pointed out, so many have a hard time accepting.

[candlelight]

I was merely pointing out the truth. Which, as John so rightly pointed out, so many have a hard time accepting.

Well, you can stop meddling into my affairs.  As I stated in the other thread, I follow my husband's lead, as I am his wife.  I don't listen to you or John in this matter.  I obey my husband.

[Standing Firm In Christ]

Excuse me? Did I name names? No! I said, "some".

[candlelight]

You seem to chase after me on this topic, SFIC.  Please, leave it alone.  I am not my husband, and I do not wish to engage you on this topic, any further.

I am not interested in your finances, nor should you be in mine.