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DaveW

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  1. Agreeing with Jerry, in the first instance it is an unreasonable and unbiblical request, but in any case we need to look at the verse. Mat 16:27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works. Would you show us where this verse mentions salvation AT ALL? It mentions a reward for works, but it doesn't mention salvation. And if you think it is talking about salvation, then show it WITHOUT providing other verses. You see how unreasonable that is? If you will allow other verses to be used we can easily show the exact judgement of works. You might consider 1 Cor 3: 11-15 and Rev 20:11-15.
  2. OK then, since it is apparently so difficult to understand.... You posted this: I asked: You replied: Now please note: NOWHERE IN THE BIBLE PASSAGE YOU QUOTED DO YOU SEE EITHER RUSSIA OR THE MUSLIMS MENTIONED. I then replied: Note that I said I thought it was probably reasonable speculation, but YOU STATED IT AS OUTRIGHT FACT ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS. In STATING IT AS OUTRIGHT FACT you are going beyond the Bible. As unlikely as it appears to us today, you have to agree that it is possible (Incredibly unlikely, but possible) that in some way the Muslim religion ceases to exist before the time of the passage to which you refer. And as unlikely as it appears to us today, it is possible that Russia could cease to exist before the time spoken of in the passage you refer to. THEREFORE because of the fact that you STATE THESE THIGNS IN THE TERMS OF A CATEGORICAL FACT you are going beyond the Bible. It is really not all that difficult to understand. State the exact same premise in the terms of likely speculation, or even in terms of probable fulfillment, and I have no problem - I actually agree that in light of what we know today, your premise is the most likely - BUT IS IT NOT BIBLICAL FACT. And for reference I mentioned that people at one time thought that Napoleon was the anti-Christ. It seemed to make sense to them at the time, but THEIR SPECULATION WAS WRONG A good number of people also thought that Hitler was the anti-Christ. It made sense to them at the time, but THEIR SPECULATION WAS WRONG. And by the way, there is no indication of Muslims in the Bible - it is various brands of Arab peoples that can be referred to Biblically, but not muslims in general. The fact that the overwhelming majority of Arab nations are also Muslim is true, but biblically irrelevant. You can point to various brands of Arab peoples and SPECULATE about a muslim link, but biblically the only true link that can be made is to their Arab heritage, not their religion per se. In STATING SUCH THINGS AS OUTRIGHT FACT you are going beyond the Bible, and that leads to dangerous places.
  3. Australia is still a part of the Commonwealth. Canada is more like an associate member now, hence the "Old Commonwealth" reference by the Canadian.......
  4. Context is always helpful. Rev 21:4-8 (4) And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. (5) And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful. (6) And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. (7) He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. (8) But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. Note in the first place that God shall wipe away all tears, etc. That is because (in vs 5) God makes all things new. In vs 6 it tells us that the way that God makes all things new is to give to "them that thirst, the water of life". In various places it explains what the water of life is: Joh 4:13-14 (13) Jesus answered and said unto her, Whosoever drinketh of this water shall thirst again: (14) But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life. So vs 8 is talking of those who HAVE NOT BEEN CHANGED by the water of life, the Lord Jesus Christ. Further to that, if we look at the last part of the previous chapter we see: Rev 20:15 (15) And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. Vs 8 is not talking about daily fears, nor about the fear of the Lord, but is talking about those who have not been changed by trusting in the Lord Jesus Christ for salvation, and are therefore still judged to be in sin of various sorts. By the way, what is your understanding of salvation and Jesus Christ? It is a simple thing to be saved: Rom 10:9-10 (9) That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. (10) For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. If you want to see some more verses or if you would like some explanation, various here will be happy to help.
  5. Actually, you may have missed them, but they are there. Mat_8:25 And his disciples came to him, and awoke him, saying, Lord, save us: we perish. When they were in the boat in the storm. Mat_14:17 And they say unto him, We have here but five loaves, and two fishes. Mat_15:33 And his disciples say unto him, Whence should we have so much bread in the wilderness, as to fill so great a multitude? Mat_16:7 And they reasoned among themselves, saying, It is because we have taken no bread. Mat_17:19 Then came the disciples to Jesus apart, and said, Why could not we cast him out? Mat_19:27 Then answered Peter and said unto him, Behold, we have forsaken all, and followed thee; what shall we have therefore? Mat_20:22 But Jesus answered and said, Ye know not what ye ask. Are ye able to drink of the cup that I shall drink of, and to be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with? They say unto him, We are able. Mat_26:17 Now the first day of the feast of unleavened bread the disciples came to Jesus, saying unto him, Where wilt thou that we prepare for thee to eat the passover? Mar_4:38 And he was in the hinder part of the ship, asleep on a pillow: and they awake him, and say unto him, Master, carest thou not that we perish? Mar_6:37 He answered and said unto them, Give ye them to eat. And they say unto him, Shall we go and buy two hundred pennyworth of bread, and give them to eat? Mar_8:16 And they reasoned among themselves, saying, It is because we have no bread. Mar_9:28 And when he was come into the house, his disciples asked him privately, Why could not we cast him out? Mar_9:38 And John answered him, saying, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name, and he followeth not us: and we forbad him, because he followeth not us. Mar_10:28 Then Peter began to say unto him, Lo, we have left all, and have followed thee. Mar_10:35 And James and John, the sons of Zebedee, come unto him, saying, Master, we would that thou shouldest do for us whatsoever we shall desire. (and vs 37 and 39) Mar_14:12 And the first day of unleavened bread, when they killed the passover, his disciples said unto him, Where wilt thou that we go and prepare that thou mayest eat the passover? This is only a simple search of Matthew and Mark (as they were the ones that you specifically mentioned), and as you can see there are a multitude of times that the Disciples said "We". I hope that has answered your question?
  6. Not arguing for arguments sake - trying to give you some advice. Proverbs 12: 1 Whoso loveth instruction loveth knowledge: but he that hateth reproof is brutish.
  7. And considering he is always spouting on about readability and understandability, he posted what must be just about the least readable and least understandable version that he could find, with some words in red and some crossed out. He has posted against his main criticism of the KJV - but has run both side of arguments so often that doesn't surprise me at all. ***** One can only post what one sees - apparently the strikeouts and corrections were done by Jim, because this guy posted a non-KJV version quote, which he should have known was against the rules, but which I suspect he knew and simply decided to ignore the rules.*****
  8. A hard situation to find himself in. Not the greatest solution by him. And your help is better than nothing. Terrible that he feels that his only option is to not attend any where......
  9. And again....... you refuse to acknowledge the point - what you state goes beyond the Scripture. When you go beyond Scripture, you go into the arena of speculation and men's philosophy and ideas.
  10. This is simply disrespectful. This is a KJV board. It is in the rules. It has been pointed out to you before. And you have claimed "advanced member" status, so you should know that. But you have also stated that you will not give proper respect, so why are we surprised...... Edit to add: I seem to remember that the Mods told you in another thread to stop it. If you can't abide by the proper authority of this board then why are you here?
  11. My point is that you are making categorical statements which are actually beyond Scripture. I stated that it was probably reasonable speculation, but it is not certain. Only a few years ago people were referring not to "Russia" per se but to "the Soviets" in relation to this. There is a small but significant difference. Many many years ago people were pointing to Napoleon as the anti-christ. The point is that you don't know for certain if Russia will even be in existence when the times you are talking about actually happen. There could be some sort of socio-political upheaval which changes the whole landscape (politically and nationally) before the anti-christ is revealed. So again, it is reasonable speculation, BUT IT IS SPECULATION. I really wish people would not state as fact that which can only be speculation, and they do it so often with prophecy.
  12. I've heard all sorts of weird and totally unsubstantiated theories.... some of them very recently..... The fact is that the reason for the 360 day year has nothing to do with a "change" in anything - it is to do with the difference between the lunar and solar years.... that's it. Nothing to do with any sort of weird theory..... .
  13. Oh OK - so it they aren't actually named in the Bible and you are speculating that these that you refer to are the the same as those to whom the Bible refers.... Just so we understand that the Bible doesn't actually NAME either Russia or Muslims in fact. Is it reasonable speculation? Yeah, probably, but IT IS NOT STATED.
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