Atheism: A Religion?

[Professor_Physika]

Hi all  

I would like to know your opinions on atheism being defined as a religion. Some questions to discuss:

1) Is atheism a religion?

2) What is the definition of atheism?

3) What is the definition of religion?

4) How did you reach your conclusions?

Thanks  

[Miss Daisy]

why don't you answer them first?

[Saintnow]

Atheism is a religion in which the believer attempts to convince, or claims to have convinced,  himself that he is exempt from the eternally punishing  fire of Hell, and has the right to exist outside of the fire of Hell now and as long as he lives.  The fool says,  "there is no God, there is no Hell".  How foolish can you get?

Edited June 21, 2015 by Saintnow

[Saintnow]

I like Psalm 2 which says "He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh:  the Lord shall have them in derision."  Believers are seated in the heavenlies in Christ.  Atheist are stuck in a position which in reality is a tragic comedy, a sad joke....and what can you do but laugh at them if not cry for them.

 

Psalm 2

"Why do the heathen (atheists) rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?  The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying, Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords far from us."

This is the true desire of atheists, to get rid of God, and in their hearts they are murderers who believe that if a person believes in God, there is nothing wrong with  murdering that person to send them to meet their maker.  Of course most of them will deny this until a Hitler rises and they help the dictator or turn a cold cheek and look the other way...the same as the Pharisees said Jesus was insane when He told them He knew they were trying to kill Him.  Jesus promised that the world would hate Christians they same as they hated Him, and they would crucify all of us today if they could.

[Saintnow]

why don't you answer them first?

His answers will be rhetorical self-deceptions designed to steer anything you say into never-ending rabbit trails as he tries to keep himself convinced that he has the right to live outside of the fire of Hell.   He's idolized his school teachers or favorite rock and roll singers or somebody or something, and he wants to be like them rather than be like Jesus.  He wants to be unholy rather than holy...like a lot of Christians today who love pornographic indulgences.

People chose to be atheists because their deeds are evil, they love darkness rather than light and will not come to the light lest their deeds be exposed.

 

I'm hoping that by telling the truth about what he is doing, he will fear God and get saved...but Pharaoh never did, no matter how much God showed Himself to Pharaoh.

How in the world our culture can raise children to believe they are better than smarter than God, or at least as good and as smart as God.....amazing

Edited June 21, 2015 by Saintnow

[Professor_Physika]

why don't you answer them first?

Hi Miss Daisy!

I'd be happy to provide my opinions on the questions I've laid out, although my purpose here is mainly to understand what others believe and why.

1) Is atheism a religion?

I would say no. As for why, my answer can be justified by the following two questions.

2) What is the definition of atheism?

Oxford Dictionary defines atheism as the following (I agree with this definition):
"atheism
[ ˈāTHēˌizəm ] 
NOUN
disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods.
synonyms: nonbelief · disbelief ·"

3) What is the definition of religion?

The same dictionary defines religion as such (I, too, agree with this definition):
"religion
[ riˈlijən ] 
NOUN
the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods:
"ideas about the relationship between science and religion"
synonyms: faith · belief ·"

4) How did you reach your conclusions?

So I reach my conclusion that atheism is not a religion because nothing in atheism commands that an atheist believe in or worship "a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods" (the latter part is particularly antithetical to atheism as the two are in blatant contradiction). Furthermore, atheism is the single position on a single subject, meaning atheism, by definition, cannot lead one to any religious belief of any kind. Atheists may be religious in some way, but nothing about atheism necessitates that these two be tied together. To clarify, to say that atheism causes atheists to be religious, a cause must, by definition, be necessary and sufficient. Atheism is compatible with certain religious philosophies (some forms of Buddhism for example), but nothing, as said, necessitates an atheist to be religious.

Thanks  

[John81]

Why bring up another thread of questions when in every other thread you refuse to face the most important point brought up, and that is your rejection of God and your only means of salvation and hope.

Walking towards the edge of the pit of hell while discussing anything other than the only means of safety is not only pointless but extremely dangerous.

Every question you asked in the OP is meaningless to the basic, most pressing need you have.

Deny God, spend eternity in hellfire wishing you had not, or open your heart to accept Christ, receive revelation from the Holy Ghost and thank God for His wonderful grace and mercy.

If you are intent upon talking about anything but salvation in Christ you are wasting your time and ours.

[Professor_Physika]

Hi John81,

I willingly admit I reject belief in God. I'm not sure how I haven't "faced up to this", I've been quite direct in my lack of belief. Furthermore, I don't see the evidence that accepting God would give me any sort of salvation anyway.

If you wish to convince me that I require salvation and that belief in your god is the only way to that salvation, you have to actually provide a case for the existence of said god.

Thanks

[John81]

Hi John81,

I willingly admit I reject belief in God. I'm not sure how I haven't "faced up to this", I've been quite direct in my lack of belief. Furthermore, I don't see the evidence that accepting God would give me any sort of salvation anyway.

If you wish to convince me that I require salvation and that belief in your god is the only way to that salvation, you have to actually provide a case for the existence of said god.

Thanks

No, actually I don't. As you know, God already declares clearly in the book of Romans that everyone, EVERYONE, including you, are provided with more than enough evidence all around you to know, KNOW, that God exists. Even so, you refuse to face that reality choosing instead to deny the evidence all about you.

Every time you reject the prodding of the Holy Ghost to reach you your heart grows more callused and your opportunity to get right with God becomes less likely. None of us are assured of tomorrow, not even of another heartbeat. Break free from the herd running for the cliff and be set free by grace through faith in Christ.

[Professor_Physika]

Hi John81,

No, I assure you, the burden of proof is on the one making the claim. To be clear, the Bible is the claim, not the proof of the claim. As a skeptic, I question the value of what the Bible has to say.

But you've here made a positive claim, namely that God provides me with abundant evidence of His existence. I am unaware of said evidence so perhaps it would be more conducive to discussion if you could point me in the right way.

Thanks  

[Miss Daisy]

Go look outside. Look in the mirror. The mere marvels of the human eye alone could only be done by God. Nobody on here is going to be able to satisfy you and give you the "evidence" you claim you need. 

[Professor_Physika]

Hi all,

This post is going out to every forum I have commented on. I have come to the conclusion that my presence is most likely unwanted and unappreciated. I came to this forum under the pretenses that I would be able to enjoy serious discussions concerning theological issues rather than simply being told that my motives are suspect, I am a liar, I am filth, etc etc.

I hold no ill will towards anyone here and understand that these are your sincerely held beliefs. Unfortunately, the negative reception I have received makes me all the more reserved in my thoughts about being honest with those who don't know my beliefs.

I hope my presence has not caused any undue secession amongst your ranks and I now respectively depart from this site. I will attempt to delete my account, although a moderator may be required to do that. If this is the case, I ask that it be done.

Good day to all and thank you for the answers I've received.

[John81]

Then the burden of proof is upon you Professor as it is you declaring there is no God despite all the evidence to the contrary.

Read John chapter 3. That's where you need to be concentrating rather than illogical arguments which lead to hell.

[RevBob]

Hi all  

I would like to know your opinions on atheism being defined as a religion. Some questions to discuss:

1) Is atheism a religion?

2) What is the definition of atheism?

3) What is the definition of religion?

 

Irrelevant.  It's not true Christianity, therefore it's satanism.

4) How did you reach your conclusions?

Matthew 12:30

[Saintnow]

All of this broken record parrot atheism is so worn out it's pathetic.  It's nothing but pride, and God's against it and atheists hate God.  It's really sad, but it's easy to see why the wrath of God abides on them who believe not on the Son of God.  God loves atheists because He is love, but somehow all they can see of God is hatred, and His wrath abides on them for rejecting His Son while in love He desires that all should repent and be saved.

Edited June 22, 2015 by Saintnow