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[John81]

While the verse in Daniel does say that God sets up and removes kings, it does not say that God wanted the nation of Israel to have a king. LuAnne is correct, God didn't want them to have an earthly king as God himself was to be their king on high. Go back and read about it in 1st Samuel.

I never said that God wanted Israel to have a king. Even so, God did allow Israel to have a king and it was God who established and removed each king according to His will.

[John81]

John, I see some disagree with you on this verse, yet I must say many commentaries aggress with you.


John, Here is some more verses on the subject and they seemly suggest that it is God who set up rulers, not man.

Da 4:17 This matter is by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones: to the intent that the living may know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will, and setteth up over it the basest of men.

Pr 8:15 By me kings reign, and princes decree justice.
Pr 8:16 By me princes rule, and nobles, even all the judges of the earth.

1Sa 9:17 And when Samuel saw Saul, the LORD said unto him, Behold the man whom I spake to thee of! this same shall reign over my people.

1Ch 28:5 And of all my sons, (for the LORD hath given me many sons,) he hath chosen Solomon my son to sit upon the throne of the kingdom of the LORD over Israel.

Jer 27:6 And now have I given all these lands into the hand of Nebuchadnezzar the king of Babylon, my servant; and the beasts of the field have I given him also to serve him.

Ro 13:1 ¶ Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.

The Word of God is very clear that God is in control, that all leaders are lifted up and brought down according to His will.

The Word is also clear that Christians are to be obedient to those who have the rule over them and to willingly be subject to their authority.