Bible - KJV or Modern Version Discussion

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   I am EXCITED!

   August 25, 2004 by steaver

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   Boy, I have been kinda bored lately. I love a good debate and things have been kinda slow with the topics that interest me. But praise the Lord, I was visting Will Kinney's site and saw that he is taking on some fellow who believes that there is no pure Word of the Lord. I can't wait for this to get rolling. I think Will has given his theolgy a mighty blow already with his first post. It is going on at http://www.baptistboard.com/ubb/ultimat ... /2766.html You probably have to copy and paste it to get in. Unless this board picks it up and hyper links it. God Bless! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: ps. Yeah, that is worth three Mister Greens!!

   

   Last reply by steaver, August 25, 2004
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   Rev. 19:8 fine linen is the righteousness of saints

   August 24, 2004 by brandplucked

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   Revelation 19:8 "The fine linen is the righteousness of saints" What is your righteousness before a holy and just God? Is it your own works or the imputed righteousness of our precious Lord Jesus Christ? The imputed righteousness of Christ is illustrated and clearly taught throughout the King James Bible of 1611. In the beginning, after Adam and Eve had sinned and hid themslves from God because they were naked, we are told in Genesis 3:21:

   

   Last reply by brandplucked, August 24, 2004
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   Ye perverted the words of God,

   August 4, 2004 by PreachIt

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   Jer 23:36 And the burden of the LORD shall ye mention no more: for every man's word shall be his burden; for ye have perverted the words of the living God, of the LORD of hosts our God. Jer 23:37 Thus shalt thou say to the prophet, What hath the LORD answered thee? and, What hath the LORD spoken? Jer 23:38 But since ye say, The burden of the LORD; therefore thus saith the LORD; Because ye say this word, The burden of the LORD, and I have sent unto you, saying, Ye shall not say, The burden of the LORD; Jer 23:39 Therefore, behold, I, even I, will utterly forget you, and I will forsake you, and the city that I gave you and your fathers, [and cast you] out of…

   

   Last reply by Ricky, August 16, 2004
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   Heaven

   August 11, 2004 by lettheredeemedsayso

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   Can people that do not believe Jesus Christ is God go to heaven? please give evidence to your answers

   

   Last reply by John the Baptist, August 12, 2004
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   Steel, Job 20:24

   July 30, 2004 by PreachIt

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   Job 20:24 He shall flee from the iron weapon, And the bow of brass shall strike him through. 1901 American Standard Version Job 20:24 He shall flee from the iron weapon, [and] the bow of steel shall strike him through. King James Bible Job 20:24 He shall flee from the yron weapons, and the bow of steele shall strike him through. 1599 Geneva Bible Job 20:24 He shall flee from the iron weapon, and the bow of steel shall strike him through. 1833 Webster Bible steel :? or brass Webster dates Job at 1510 BC And a brief study, http://www.tf.uni-kiel.de/matwis/amat/d ... 5_1_4.html indicates that there is an 'approx' 6000 year history of steel makin…

   

   Last reply by PreachIt, August 10, 2004
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   1 Samuel 6:19 - 50,070 slain or only 70?

   August 10, 2004 by brandplucked

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   50,070 men slain or only 70? 1 Samuel 6:19 presents us with a prime example of how the modern scholars presume to alter the text of the King James Bible. These

   

   Last reply by brandplucked, August 10, 2004
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   but it stands unmoved. ...

   August 10, 2004 by PreachIt

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   "Attacked from all quarters, this Bible has never given any quarter. It has had an Ishmaelite experience. Every man's hand has been against it, and its hand has been against every man, but it dwells in the midst of the brethren. Princes, philosophers, prelates, and poets have all conspired against it. It has been insulted by the scorn of fools. It has become the jest of infidels and the joke of skeptics. It has been assailed consistently and persistently by professed scholars. It has been made the butt of every so-called 'higher critic.' Assaulted by every known plan of hell-bless God, it has come forth unscathed from the inferno. "Like the three Hebrew children it ha…

   

   Last reply by PreachIt, August 10, 2004
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   Exodus 15:2 I will prepare him an habitation

   August 6, 2004 by brandplucked

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   Exodus 15:2 "I will prepare him an habitation" Not all bible versions end up teaching the same things, even when they translate the same Hebrew texts. Two examples of this are found in Exodus 15:1 and 2. In the King James Bible, immediately after the children of Israel are delivered through the Red Sea and Pharoah and his armies are drowned, we read: Verse 1- "Then sang Moses and the children of Israel this song unto the LORD, and spake, saying, I will sing unto the LORD, for HE HATH TRIUMPHED GLORIOUSLY: the horse and his rider hath he thrown into the sea." Verse 2 - "The LORD is my strength and song, and he is become my salvation: he is my God, AND I WILL PRE…

   

   Last reply by brandplucked, August 7, 2004
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    Considering the Bible Issue: On Sub-Calvinists

    July 30, 2004 by PappaBear

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    "But a most pernicious error widely prevails that Scripture has only so much weight as is conceded to it by the consent of the church. As if the eternal and inviolable truth of God depended upon the decision of men! For they mock the Holy Spirit when they ask: Who can convince us that these writings came down from God? Who can assure us that Scripture has come down WHOLE and INTACT even to our very day? WHO CAN PERSUADE US TO RECEIVE ONE BOOK IN REVERENCE BUT TO EXCLUDE ANOTHER, unless the church prescribe a sure rule for all these matters? What reverence is due Scripture and what books ought to be reckoned within its canon depend, they say, upon the determination of the …

    

    Last reply by Ricky, August 2, 2004
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    Modern versions teach reality of ghosts 1 2 3

    July 12, 2004 by brandplucked

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    Do Ghosts Exist? I work nights and not long ago I was listening to the Art Bell program, Coast to Coast. For those of you who do not know, Mr. Bell has a very weird radio program listened to by millions world wide. His guests include a large number of New Agers, UFO enthusiasts, and witches. His topics include time travel, space brothers, reincarnation and ghosts. Someone mentioned that ghosts were found in the Bible, and this caught my attention. I am a strong believer in the accuracy of the King James Bible, and I didn

    

    Last reply by Guest, August 1, 2004
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    King James Only, circa 1925...

    July 28, 2004 by PreachIt

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    TESTIMONIES OF KING JAMES BIBLE DEFENDERS - WILLIAM ABERHART WHAT ABOUT THE REVISED VERSION OF THE BIBLE BY WILLIAM ABERHART, c. 1925 A storm at sea is not so dangerous as a fog. Ships are built to wrestle with storms, but not to withstand a fog. I was reading not long ago of an invention recently perfected to help a vessel in a fog. The apparatus consists of a horizontal outlook pipe, eight feet in length and eight inches in diameter. At the mouth of the tube is a wide flange; the rear end is covered with a thick disk of glass. About two feet from the rear end a pipe enters the tube from below, at an obtuse angle with the forward section. This connection is fasten…

    

    Last reply by PappaBear, July 29, 2004
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    NIV Teen Study Bible, the evil therein...

    July 27, 2004 by PreachIt

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    NIV Teen Study Bible excerpts, [img]http://www.av1611.org/kjv/def_s3.jpg[/img] Take the topic of "sex". The Teen Study Bible gives a standard dictionary definition, but the "alternative definition" is disgusting. Remember this is aimed directly at impressionable Christian teenagers. The "alternate definition" (1993 edition) for "sex" is "

    

    Last reply by brandplucked, July 29, 2004
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    NIV Bible Quiz

    July 27, 2004 by PreachIt

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    NIV Bible Quiz: INSTRUCTIONS: Using the New International Version Bible, answer the following questions. Do not rely on your memory. Because the Bible is the final authority, you must take your answer from the Bible text (not from footnotes). 1. Fill in the missing words in Matthew 5:44. "Love your enemies, ____________ them that curse you, ____ _____ to them that hate you, and pray for them that _______ ________ ________ and persecute you." 2. According to Matthew 17:21, what two things are required to cast out this type of demon? __________and__________ 3. According to Matthew 18:11, why did Jesus come to earth? _______________________…

    

    Last reply by BrotherJon, July 28, 2004
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    Exodus 3:22 the Israelites "borrowed" of the Egypt

    July 24, 2004 by brandplucked

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    Another King James Bible "error" bites the dust Exodus 3:22 "But every woman shall BORROW of her neighbour, and of her that sojourneth in her house, jewels of silver, and jewels of gold, and raiment: and ye shall put them upon your daughters; and ye shall spoil the Egyptians." See also Exodus 11:2 and 12:35. Lots of Bible critics love to bring up this alleged error in the King James Bible. They tell us that "borrow" is a poor and misleading translation. One site that calls itself Christian Answers Net (http://www.christiananswers.net/dictionary/borrow.html) says: "The Israelites "borrowed" from the Egyptians (Ex. 12:35, R.V., "asked") in accordance with a divi…

    

    Last reply by brandplucked, July 24, 2004
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    James White's "tenacity" of the N.T. text

    July 2, 2004 by brandplucked

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    Hi saints. This one is long, so you may not wish to read it. It took me a good week to put it together, but is has some good info about how Sinaiticus and Vaticanus REALLY read. If you can wade through it, I think you will see how ridiculous White's position is. Will Kinney James White's "tenacity" of the New Testament text - 1 John Poor James. He has no complete, infallible Holy Bible and he sorely resents the fact that many of us who are King James Bible believers claim we do. On Mr. White's website he laments the conversion of a fairly well known Christian leader, William Schnoebelen, to KJV Onlyism. Mr. White says: "At times it seems like an epidem…

    

    Last reply by John the Baptist, July 22, 2004
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    KJV only, KJV/TR only and TR only 1 2

    June 12, 2004 by AVDeaf

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    [b]There are three groups of "only":[/b] The TR only -- Greek/Hebrew apographa only -- rejects the KJV and supports the NKJV, the MT and others. The TR/KJV only -- Accurate Greek/Hebrew apographa -- Defending the KJV. The KJV only -- Defending the KJV and rejecting these Greek/Hebrew apographa. See the difference between them. [b]Psalms 12:6-7:[/b] The KJV onlyists believe this passages refer to the KJV. The TR/KJV onlyists believe this passages refer to the Greek/Hebrew apographa Which is right? [b]Read the Bible:[/b] The TR/KJV onlyists believe that any foreigners read their accurate Bible in their mother tongue. The KJV onlyists believe …

    

    Last reply by AVDeaf, July 19, 2004
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    James 4:5 the spirit that dwelleth in us lusteth to envy

    July 18, 2004 by brandplucked

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    James 4:5 "The spirit that dwelleth in us lusteth to envy" The King James Bible vindicated in James 4:5 There is a particular verse of Scripture in the book of James that has been the source of a great deal of misunderstanding and confusion. I believe the King James Bible, when properly understood, gives the correct reading in contrast to many other versions that miss the mark. The King James reading perfectly fits the context of James chapter Four and is in agreement with the rest of Biblical truth. Let's look at the context and examine the verse more carefully as we compare the KJB reading to that found in other bible versions. James 4:1-6 King James Bi…

    

    Last reply by brandplucked, July 18, 2004
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    Modern Bible Study

    July 11, 2004 by PreachIt

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    an e-mail from AVBunyon, http://av1611bible.com/ included the following, Enjoy, Modern Bible Study Picture this: Elder Dim Whitt,

    

    Last reply by brandplucked, July 14, 2004
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    restraining the evil one

    June 27, 2004 by Dan

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    Can anyone find a scripture reference that says the Holy Spirit restrains the evil one? In our church constitution that we are in the process of revising, it has II Thess. 2:9 (Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders) as a reference to it. Our constitution on the Holy Spirit reads: We believe that the Holy Spirit is a divine person equal with the Father and the Son (Matt 28:19). [b]He is restraining the evil one in this world (II Thess 2:9)[/b], convicts of sin, righteousness and judgment (John 16:8-11), witnesses (Romans 8:16), and sanctifies (I Peter 1:2) This does not seem to fit. If it does can anyone help …

    

    Last reply by John the Baptist, July 14, 2004
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    Jeremiah 8:8 the pen of the scribes is in vain (updated)

    July 8, 2004 by brandplucked

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    Jeremiah 8:8 The pen of the Scribes is in Vain KJB "How do ye say, We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us? Lo, certainly in vain made he it; the pen of the scribes is in vain." The meaning of the King James Bible is NOT that the scriptures themselves had been altered by the scribes, but rather that the Scriptures did not profit the people because they were not listening to them nor obeying them. It was not the Scriptures which had been changed or altered, but the people who thought themselves wise even in their rejection of God's word. Consider the context of verses eight and nine. "How do ye say, We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us? Lo, c…

    

    Last reply by brandplucked, July 8, 2004
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    Hebrews 4:8 Jesus or Joshua?

    July 6, 2004 by brandplucked

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    Hebrews 4:8 "For if JESUS had given them rest..." Bible correctors frequently drag out this dead fish and try to raise a stink about how the King James Bible is in error when it refers to "JESUS" bringing the children of Israel into the promised land. These noted scholars try to place you in the position that you can never read your Bible and know for certain, "Thus saith the Lord", unless you first consult with them to find out if you have the correct text they approve of, and that the text that you have is translated properly according to what they declare to be the correct rendering. Yet none of them believe any single Bible out there is totally infallible …

    

    Last reply by Jerry, July 8, 2004
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    Matthew 14 - how goofy is the "science" of text cr 1 2 3

    May 19, 2004 by brandplucked

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    How goofy is the "science" of textual criticism? Here are a couple reminders of how messed up and inconsistent the so called science of textual criticism really is. There are easily a few hundred of such examples and you will find many of them listed in my two articles "They Dare Call This Science". http://www.geocities.com/brandplucked/science.html - Matthew to John http://www.geocities.com/brandplucked/science2.html - Acts to Revelation In Matthew 14 we read of Jesus walking on the water, Peter going to him and beginning to sink, and the disciples worshipping the Lord and recognizing that He is the Son of God. In Matthew 14:24 we read: "But the ship …

    

    Last reply by Trotter, July 8, 2004
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    Filthy new 'bible' perversion, promotes fornication....

    June 24, 2004 by PreachIt

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    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/artic ... E_ID=39114 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TESTING THE FAITH New Bible translation promotes fornication Archbishop of Canterbury praises version for 'extraordinary power' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted: June 24, 2004 1:00 a.m. Eastern © 2004 WorldNetDaily.com A brand-new translation of the Bible

    

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    Subject Bible

    June 29, 2004 by LAF

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    Has anyone seen the subject Bible? I just caught the last bit of what I guess was an infomercial of sorts . This Bible is King James Version it is large print but the diffrence is that you can find things by subject so like all of love is together but also the Bible is just like a regular one except that they have a place where all the subject is at not only that the words which we no longer use instead of dragging out your dictionary or concordance its allready placed there for you .Like wimple or crisping pin then like under it ( money purse) like that I thought it was really nice I don't have them money for it now but I would love to…

    

    Last reply by Trotter, June 30, 2004
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    King James Bible and the former?

    June 24, 2004 by HomeBound

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    I hear arguments about, if the King James Bible is God's perfect word, what about the Geneva and the other Bibles that were before it? Can anyone give me some insight?

    

    Last reply by AV1611, June 25, 2004