Bible - KJV or Modern Version Discussion
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It's by Dr. Jeff Owens about the NIV. [url]http://owenspublications.com/audio/sermons/2005/08212005pnivnotinspiredversion.wma[/url]
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I don't know if this is the right thread for this, but here goes. In the Book of Acts, Chapter 8, the Angel of the Lord told Philip to go to Gaza and he found an Ethiopian man, a Eunuch, sitting in a chariot, reading from the Book of Isaiah. This man was a man who had great authority in Ethiopia. He was in charge of all the Queen's treasure. He had COME UP TO JERUSALEM TO WORSHIP. He was on his way back to Ethiopia. In Jerusalem the Jews worshipped at the temple or in synagogues. This man was a gentile, or was he??? He knew how to READ HEBREW. He talked to Philip. This man SPOKE HEBREW. Ethiopia is a LONG way from Jerusalem. So, was this man an Ethiopian gentile that t…
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Does anyone here own a Ryrie Study Bible? If so, do you like it? What do you think is its pros and cons? I'm thinking of buying one and I just thought I'd ask. Thanks. Frank. :sing:
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The ever changing "literal" NASB There are hundreds of examples found in the New American Standard Version where it is far less "literal" than the King James Bible or, for that matter, the previous Revised Version of 1881 and the American Standard Version of 1901. The following is a very incomplete list of some of the examples I have found in my personal studies over the past few years. This list could easily be three times as long, but these few should be sufficient to refute the oft repeated claim that the NASB is the most literal of the modern versions. The NASB gospel of John came out in 1960. The complete New Testament in 1963, and the whole Bible in 1971.…
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More Bible Babel in the Book of Proverbs Proverbs 14:32 "The wicked is driven away in his wickedness: but the righteous hath HOPE IN HIS DEATH." Implied in this verse is the hope the righteous have in the resurrection from the dead. This is also the reading of the Geneva Bible, the Revised Version, the Jewish translations of 1917, 1936, the Spanish Reina Valera and the Douay version. The NKJV, RSV, NASB, and NIV change it a bit with: "but the righteous has A REFUGE in his death", BUT the RSV and the NRSV say: "but the righteous FINDS REFUGE IN HIS INTEGRITY." Then in a footnote, they tell us that the reading of "in his integrity" comes from the Greek and Syr…
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Ecclesiastes 7:27-28
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[quote] Ecclesiastes 7:27. Behold, this have I found, saith the preacher, counting one by one, to find out the account:28. Which yet my soul seeketh, but I find not: one man among a thousand have I found; but a woman among all those have I not found. [/quote] Does Solomon mean that only ONE in a thousand men he found good But NO women anywhere? :lol: Rufus
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Well there has been a lot of discussion about the KJV but the bottom line can we trust it. If it's trustworthy then we need to obey it if not we need to place it in the garbage. If it's inspired then we need to defend it if not we need to find the one that is. I think the KJV is inspired and I have staked my eternity on that fact. These people that don't believe in inspiration had better wake up because if it's not then we all are on our way to hell.
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can one be saved by hearing the word of God from any of the other perversions such as the NIV and what not?
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Hi saints, I had posted part of this once before, but have now added a few things that I think are really cool about the accuracy of the King James Bible. God bless, Will Charity "And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity." 1 Corinthians 13:13 Dr. Robert Joyner has written a long article criticizing the King James Bible in an effort to convince you that it is not the infallible word of God. He wants you to switch to the NASB, NIV or one of the other modern versions. Of course Mr. Joyner does not have any Bible he considers to be the inerrant, complete, infallible word of God. His only final authority is his ow…
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Psalm 78 Can people DECEIVE God? NASB, Holman Blunder I am presently in two Christian forums discussing the inerrancy of the King James Bible. I was challenged to bring up one example of doctrinal corruption found in the modern versions. I have many examples to list, but I started off with something very simple. The following posts and discussions reveal how people think when confronted with a clear doctrinal error. I posted this short article, and then received the following responses from two men, who promote the modern versions and criticize the King James Bible. Psalm 78:36 "They did flatter Him" Psalms 78 tells us of Israel's rebellion and sin agains…
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The 2003 Holman Christian Standard Bible The Holman CSB is the latest in a long line of modern bible versions that rejects the Traditional Greek New Testament readings, as found in such English Bibles as Tyndale, Coverdale, Bishop's, Geneva, and the King James Bible. The Holman version also frequently rejects the Hebrew Masoretic text and instead follows the Greek Septuagint, the Syriac, Vulgate, or in some cases, just makes up its own text as it goes along. In its Introduction the HCSB makes several statements that reveal the nature of this translation. It says the basis for the New Testament translation is the Nestle-Aland 27th, and United Bible Societies' 4…
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This is kind of a weird question that I was thinking about a few weeks ago. If no one understands what I mean or the responses go nowhere, don't worry about it - but if anyone has any input, let me know. 2 Timothy 3:16 [i]All scripture is given by [b]inspiration of God[/b], and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:[/i] Most people refer to [b]Inspiration [/b]in the manner that God "[i]breathed [u]out[/u][/i]" the Scriptures, and therefore this only refers to the originals. Ie. in the sense that He [i]breathed out [/i]the exact Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic words - therefore some of these same people have a problem w…
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http://hopeofisrael.net/messiah1.htm
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Compare Isaiah 9:3 in the KJV with the modern translations. What do you see missing?
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[quote] And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. [/quote] I have heard many different explanations for this verse. Some are so bizzare that I won't bother typing them here. Now I don't have a definate explanation, so maybe you all can help me. Some parts I don't entirely understand: Who precisely is "thee"? Is it Peter? Or is he using Thee in a plural sense, speaking to those that were around him as "thee". Is it the church as he was referring to in the verse before? (no i dont believe peter is the rock ;) ). Th…
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What was Ezekiel seeing in Ezekiel 1:4-28? Everyone I know said he was either hallucinationg, or seeing an alien space ship but I don't buy either of those.
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Sometimes people ask "what are jots and tittles?" I thought this section gives a good explanation. [size=18]JOT AND TITTLE INSPIRATION[/size] A [i]jot [/i]is the smallest letter in the Hebrew alphabet and a [i]tittle [/i]is a tiny mark which enables one to distinguish between two Hebrew letters which look very similar (see below): [img]http://www.middletownbiblechurch.org/bofbooks/img/hebru1.gif[/img] [img]http://www.middletownbiblechurch.org/bofbooks/img/hebru2.gif[/img] [img]http://www.middletownbiblechurch.org/bofbooks/img/hebru3.gif[/img] [img]http://www.middletownbiblechurch.org/bofbooks/img/hebru4.gif[/img] Every jot and title is inspired and will b…
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[quote] The Holy Bible, in the "Book of Jeremiah," describes Satan's fall from Heaven like lightning. In this description it says that the skies turned black, birds fled from the sky, and "there were no people in the cities." But according to Judeo-Christian myth, Satan fell before God made Adam, the generally accepted "first man." So who were these people? Who built these cities? [/quote] A friend said this was a possible contradiction, but I'm not sure. Anyone know what he's talking about?
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Some feminist told me that the story of Adam and Eve is sexist because Eve eats the fruit first. According to her "it was written that way so men could put women in their place".
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I maybe a little slow but why would someone call themselves a Christian and not believe the bible is the word of God? It seems to me that they have no foundation on which to lay their faith.
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I was browsing Christian Courier (http://www.christiancourier.com) when I came accross this: [quote]
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Does anyone know a good study Bible, the old scofields are too expensive for me. If I could afford one, I'd buy it, but I can't.
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If God didn't want Adam and Eve to eat from it, then why did he put it there? Was it just a "sting" operation on the devil?
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What is your meaning of this verse John 10:16 And other sheep I have which are not of this fold them also I must bring and they shall hear my voice and there shall be one fold and lone shepherd.
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If the bible is not inspired how can trust what it says. How can we have faith in something we are not sure of Romans 10:17.If not of God then it must be of man and if of man I can put no trust in it.
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