god John- testimony to God! (Follow along at Biblegateway.com)

[Thinking]

1-In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Was God (theos).

 

The Word Theos Means God

Theos is the basis of the word theology which means, “the study of God.” Theos is used a number of different ways in the New Testament. They are as follows.

1. It Can Speak of the True God

When the true God is spoken of in the New Testament, the Greek word theos is used. For example, we read in John’s gospel,

In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God [theos] and the Word was God... (John 1:1 KJV)

In this instance, theos refers to the true God. This is one of the regular uses of this term.

2. It Can Refer to “a God”

The singular form of the word theos may refer to a singular god which is not the God of the Bible. When King Herod appeared before the crowd on a certain occasion, the crowd referred to him as “a god.”

So on a set day Herod, arrayed in royal apparel, sat on his throne and gave an oration to them. And the people kept shouting, “The voice of a god and not of a man!” (Acts 12:21-22 NKJV)

On this occasion, Herod was equated with deity by the crowd. However it was not with the God of the Bible.

3. It Can Refer to False Gods

The plural form of theos can refer to false Gods rather than the true God of the Bible Paul wrote to the Corinthians about the non-existence of so-called gods. He said,

Indeed, even though there may be so-called gods [theos] in heaven or on earth—as in fact there are many gods and many lords... (1 Corinthians 8:5 NRSV)

The Greek word which translated “gods” in this verse is the plural form of theos. In this instance if makes reference to non-existent gods.

4. The Word Also Can Mean Humans

Interestingly, Jesus used the word “gods” to refer to human rulers. We find this usage in John’s gospel when Jesus was talking to the religious leaders about His identity. John records the following words of Jesus.

Jesus answered, “Is it not written in your law, ‘I said, you are gods’ [theos]? If those to whom the word of God came were called ‘gods’ [theos]—and the scripture cannot be annulled—can you say that the one whom the Father has sanctified and sent into the world is blaspheming because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’?” (John 10:34-36 NRSV)

This is the use of the plural form of theos. Instead of referring to the true God, or to false gods, it has reference to earthly rulers.

Conclusion: The Context Must Determine the Meaning of Theos

Therefore, it is important to understand the context that theos is used to have a proper understanding of its meaning. While God is the primary meaning of this Greek word, it is used with other secondary meanings. As always, the context must be the final determiner.

So, the REST of John will help us determine was "theos" really means.

(If you have an open mind)

[BrotherTony]

John teaches the Trinity. Only CULTS reject the Trinity...and JWs are a cult. 

[Thinking]

2 minutes ago, BrotherTony said:

John teaches the Trinity. Only CULTS reject the Trinity...and JWs are a cult. 

Really? The Trinity (and also all it's MANY theological sub-terms) is mentioned there?

2-The same was in the beginning with God.

WHO was with God?

[BrotherTony]

17 minutes ago, Thinking said:

Really? The Trinity (and also all it's MANY theological sub-terms) is mentioned there?

2-The same was in the beginning with God.

WHO was with God?

Read the passage in context. It's already been pointed out that he was God in vs.1.; So yes, the Son was indeed with the Father. It's really not that hard to understand. 

[Thinking]

2 minutes ago, BrotherTony said:

Read the passage in context. It's already been pointed out that he was God in vs.1.; So yes, the Son was indeed with the Father. It's really not that hard to understand. 

Then God was with ANOTHER God?

[BrotherTony]

2 minutes ago, Thinking said:

Then God was with ANOTHER God?

That's not what it says.

[Thinking]

3- All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4- In him was life; and the life was the light of men.5- And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

Confirmed at Heb 1!

Heb 1:1- God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,

2- Hath in these last days spoken unto us by His son, whom He hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also He made the worlds;

3- Who being the brightness of His glory, and the express image of His person, and upholding all things by the word of His power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high!

(Why did the KJV remove the caps referring to God?)

[BrotherTony]

1 minute ago, Thinking said:

3- All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4- In him was life; and the life was the light of men.5- And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

Confirmed at Heb 1!

Heb 1:1- God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,

2- Hath in these last days spoken unto us by His son, whom He hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also He made the worlds;

3- Who being the brightness of His glory, and the express image of His person, and upholding all things by the word of His power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high!

(Why did the KJV remove the caps referring to God?)

It's clear once again that you're not reading these scriptures in context, nor are you using ALL of their content, instead cherry picking words or phrases you believe prove your point. Try again, thinking.

[Thinking]

4 minutes ago, BrotherTony said:

It's clear once again that you're not reading these scriptures in context, nor are you using ALL of their content, instead cherry picking words or phrases you believe prove your point. Try again, thinking.

So, God did not make all things thru His son?

[Thinking]

14- And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Was God an only begotten?

18- No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared Him.

"HIM"! 

29- The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

Is the Trinity a lamb?

[Thinking]

33-And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.

IS there such thing as "Ghosts"?

Did this GhostGod descend on GodJesus?

34- And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.

(Not "God-the-Son"- the direct opposite)

[Thinking]

Now that's all from the 1st Chapter identifying who the "theos" was. Did I miss anything? 

[BrotherTony]

39 minutes ago, Thinking said:

So, God did not make all things thru His son?

Please, learn to read the Scriptures, and the replies given you. It's clear that you are doing neither.

[Thinking]

Jesus first miracle was creating wine at the marriage festival.

2:10-  And saith unto him, Every man at the beginning doth set forth good wine; and when men have well drunk, then that which is worse: but thou hast kept the good wine until now.

And the scripture used by others to show he's God~

2:19- Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.

But, again, it is taken to of context:

 

 

[Thinking]

Now his famous words misconstrued at~

John 3:16-  For God so loved the world, that He gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17- For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18- He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Two separate persons. 

NOT- " God so loved the world that They came Themselves..."