Sad reality

[Kienyui]

In my life, everything is a battle.  Every breath is a battle, food is a battle, accommodation is a battle, health is a battle.  either to win or die. We have gotten to a point where we no longer care who us right. What matters is the person that is left. We who have seen war, never stop seeing it. It wake us in the morning and help us to sleep. We see human but no humanity.  Classified under world most neglected crisis. All we can remember now, all we can talk about now is war abd death. Will this ever end?

 

[BrotherTony]

4 hours ago, Kienyui said:

In my life, everything is a battle.  Every breath is a battle, food is a battle, accommodation is a battle, health is a battle.  either to win or die. We have gotten to a point where we no longer care who us right. What matters is the person that is left. We who have seen war, never stop seeing it. It wake us in the morning and help us to sleep. We see human but no humanity.  Classified under world most neglected crisis. All we can remember now, all we can talk about now is war abd death. Will this ever end?

 

I'm sorry that you are experiencing some very bad things in your life right now. One thing that I am noticing in your postings are a lack of trust in the Lord through all of these things. You've seemed once or twice to have given lip-service, but then have turned around and stated you had gone to a witch doctor and participating in something no true child of God should have done.  This isn't pointed out to minimize the circumstances that you are going through, but to bring to light several things...(1) What is your relationship with Jesus Christ? When did you come to know Christ as your Savior? (2) Have you tried to contact any of the Christian missionaries in your area for help or encouragement and guidance? (3) If you are having trouble with the Cambodian authorities concerning your associations in person and online, why do you continue to post on a message board that you know to be American in origin? These are but a few questions your posts bring to mind.

[Kienyui]

Good is the creator of our lives. He sees and knows what we do day and night. It is not by my making but the spirit of the lord that I am what I am what I am today. It doesn't matter who am for it It not by might nor by power. God God use the foolish things to confound the wish. 

If I am christian or not, I have to survive.  I need to stay alive. I am not sending personal messages to individuals again. I have been doing this for years. I have not had help of any form. One thing is sure. I may have compromise my faith, my belief, my relationship with God. May God understand why I did or God was aware I will do this at some point to stay alive. I know and I am very sure one day, the holy ghost shall come upon me and mountains shall me made low, dry bone will be fruitful and crooked shall be made straight.

I don't regret staying at the native doctor shrine at moment. I do pray to my God and he is making ways for me.

As for other questions, I rather talk about myself and nothing about the crisis in my country or it impact on my life. 

When the appointed time will come, God will raise people from all parts of the world to take me out of here. For the mean time, I have stopped asking, begging and lamentation. I will wait on the lord.

For any person praying for me, the lord bless you. Know that I am at the wrong place but I still remember and exalt the most powerful and the owner of my life.

[BrotherTony]

1 hour ago, Kienyui said:

Good is the creator of our lives. He sees and knows what we do day and night. It is not by my making but the spirit of the lord that I am what I am what I am today. It doesn't matter who am for it It not by might nor by power. God God use the foolish things to confound the wish.

It is true that God is the creator of our lives. He is the owner of our lives if we are Christians, for we are bought with a price, the precious blood of Jesus Christ his Son. And yes, God does use the foolish things of the earth to confound the wise, but, it doesn't give us leave to enter into sin to gain physical comfort. If you're a child of God, it matters very much what you say, do, and intend to do.

1 hour ago, Kienyui said:

If I am christian or not, I have to survive.  I need to stay alive. I am not sending personal messages to individuals again. I have been doing this for years. I have not had help of any form.

I would beg to differ when you say you have not had help in any form. This is not the case. There have been some who have set up a "go fund me" account. Whether any money was directed towards you or not is unclear. 

1 hour ago, Kienyui said:

 

 

One thing is sure. I may have compromise my faith, my belief, my relationship with God. May God understand why I did or God was aware I will do this at some point to stay alive. I know and I am very sure one day, the holy ghost shall come upon me and mountains shall me made low, dry bone will be fruitful and crooked shall be made straight.

It seems that you continue to believe it's fine to set aside your faith and to compromise. Yes, God does understand that we are only human, but, the Bible also tells us that we will have times of testing, possibly even to the point of death, but that we are to hold fast in the power of the Holy Spirit. Again, it's NEVER acceptable to God to compromise and do wrong to obtain right. 

1 hour ago, Kienyui said:

I don't regret staying at the native doctor shrine at moment. I do pray to my God and he is making ways for me.

As for other questions, I rather talk about myself and nothing about the crisis in my country or it impact on my life. 

When the appointed time will come, God will raise people from all parts of the world to take me out of here. For the mean time, I have stopped asking, begging and lamentation. I will wait on the lord.

For any person praying for me, the lord bless you. Know that I am at the wrong place but I still remember and exalt the most powerful and the owner of my life.

If you are doing what is wrong, there is NO WAY that you are able to "still remember and exalt the most powerful" God. If you're doing wrong you're basically saying that YOU own your life, not God. You can't have it both ways. 

[Kienyui]

18 hours ago, BrotherTony said:

It is true that God is the creator of our lives. He is the owner of our lives if we are Christians, for we are bought with a price, the precious blood of Jesus Christ his Son. And yes, God does use the foolish things of the earth to confound the wise, but, it doesn't give us leave to enter into sin to gain physical comfort. If you're a child of God, it matters very much what you say, do, and intend to do.

I would beg to differ when you say you have not had help in any form. This is not the case. There have been some who have set up a "go fund me" account. Whether any money was directed towards you or not is unclear. 

It seems that you continue to believe it's fine to set aside your faith and to compromise. Yes, God does understand that we are only human, but, the Bible also tells us that we will have times of testing, possibly even to the point of death, but that we are to hold fast in the power of the Holy Spirit. Again, it's NEVER acceptable to God to compromise and do wrong to obtain right. 

If you are doing what is wrong, there is NO WAY that you are able to "still remember and exalt the most powerful" God. If you're doing wrong you're basically saying that YOU own your life, not God. You can't have it both ways. 

I repeat. I have not had help in any form. Give a little account was set up for me but people were reluctant to contribute. 122 New Zealand dollars was contributed but this individual was unable to send help from New Zealand to Cameroon. 

It will be better you find out why one cannot send money from New Zealand to Cameroon.

I maybe suffering but not an ingrate. Not a lier, 

I differ with you there. God is the creator of heaven and the earth with everything in it. I have eaten charms at the native doctor's shrine but before taking it, I usually pray and tell my father that I am his child and he owns everything including the native doctor abd his shrine. Let everything I take be nutrients to his temple, my body. 

I will continue to stay here till I am secure to leave.  I cannot leave to go and die of hunger and starvation. 

Here I have a home, I eat and I am in a safer place.  I don't hope to leave soon.  Even if you don't agree, christ brought me here to give me home and shelter 

[Disciple.Luke]

On 3/20/2024 at 3:53 AM, Kienyui said:

In my life, everything is a battle.  Every breath is a battle, food is a battle, accommodation is a battle, health is a battle.  either to win or die. We have gotten to a point where we no longer care who us right. What matters is the person that is left. We who have seen war, never stop seeing it. It wake us in the morning and help us to sleep. We see human but no humanity.  Classified under world most neglected crisis. All we can remember now, all we can talk about now is war abd death. Will this ever end?

 

So your parents were both Muslims and your father later converted to Christianity who was then threatened by your moms brothers? 

I've read some of your posts on others sites and the GoFundMe that Brother Tony mentioned. I'm just trying to understand what your situation is since you won't reply to private messages.

You are living in Cameroon? I had to look on Wikipedia to see which religions are dominant there and it says that the majority are Catholic and Cameroon has a high tolerance towards Christians in general?

[BrotherTony]

1 hour ago, Disciple.Luke said:

So your parents were both Muslims and your father later converted to Christianity who was then threatened by your moms brothers? 

I've read some of your posts on others sites and the GoFundMe that Brother Tony mentioned. I'm just trying to understand what your situation is since you won't reply to private messages.

You are living in Cameroon? I had to look on Wikipedia to see which religions are dominant there and it says that the majority are Catholic and Cameroon has a high tolerance towards Christians in general?

This is the information I have received from several sources concerning prominent religions. 

"Religion: Christianity is the predominant religion in Cameroon, divided among roughly 38% Catholics, 26% Protestants and 4% other Christian denominations. 21% of the population practice Islam and 6% some aspects of animist beliefs. Christians are mainly found in the southern and western parts of the country."

https://www.alberta.ca/iqas-education-guide-cameroon#:~:text=Religion%3A Christianity is the predominant,western parts of the country

 

I've heard of very few incidents like Kienyui has described. I'm not saying that he's being untruthful, but I am saying what he is saying is suspicious. 

[Disciple.Luke]

2 hours ago, BrotherTony said:

This is the information I have received from several sources concerning prominent religions. 

"Religion: Christianity is the predominant religion in Cameroon, divided among roughly 38% Catholics, 26% Protestants and 4% other Christian denominations. 21% of the population practice Islam and 6% some aspects of animist beliefs. Christians are mainly found in the southern and western parts of the country."

https://www.alberta.ca/iqas-education-guide-cameroon#:~:text=Religion%3A Christianity is the predominant,western parts of the country

 

I've heard of very few incidents like Kienyui has described. I'm not saying that he's being untruthful, but I am saying what he is saying is suspicious. 

Yeah those statistics are very close to what was on Wikipedia. 

Just from what I read on the GoFundMe I had the impression that was majority Islamic country where Christians were severely persecuted and I thought maybe he was living in New Zealand with the women who adopted him.

I'm not sure what to think. The whole witch doctor stuff is throwing me off for sure. It seems like he would be able to find some support there considering the large Christian population.

[BrotherTony]

2 hours ago, Disciple.Luke said:

Yeah those statistics are very close to what was on Wikipedia. 

Just from what I read on the GoFundMe I had the impression that was majority Islamic country where Christians were severely persecuted and I thought maybe he was living in New Zealand with the women who adopted him.

I'm not sure what to think. The whole witch doctor stuff is throwing me off for sure. It seems like he would be able to find some support there considering the large Christian population.

Yes...I've questioned the validity of some of his statements and will continue to do so when they violate not only Scripture but common sense. Going all over the internet posting accusations against people on each site, then saying he would be better off dead, and the myriad of other comments made lead me to believe he's suffering from some mental disorder, or that he's a con-artist.  I hate to be so pointed with him, but, I've always been so and am not about to stop.

[Kienyui]

2 hours ago, BrotherTony said:

Yes...I've questioned the validity of some of his statements and will continue to do so when they violate not only Scripture but common sense. Going all over the internet posting accusations against people on each site, then saying he would be better off dead, and the myriad of other comments made lead me to believe he's suffering from some mental disorder, or that he's a con-artist.  I hate to be so pointed with him, but, I've always been so and am not about to stop.

@BrotherTony  and @Disciple.Luke, when you rebuke someone, it is not hatred but love. I you didn't care about me, you will not waste you precious time and energy advising, rebuking and encouraging me.

I am not proud of any wrong doing, i am not in any way defending a wrong doing but i believe he will have mercy on me and help me overcome whatever situation i found myself. 

The Bible tells us that the earth is God's (Exodus 19:5. I(Plavious), all animals and every other thing on earth belong to God(Psalm 24:1).  Everything on earth and in heaven is his(1 chronicles 29:11).

Here at the native doctor's shrine, I have taken all form of concoctions including fresh heart of a cat. He has buried many other in my body through incisions. Special egg broken on my head.  I have drank blood of different animals. 

All those things were created by God. Each time it is being done, I pray in my heart and cancel all evil in God's creation given to me. I rather stay here than go around begging. If those things can treat me, there is no need leaving. 

If I keep insisting you help me, everyone will keep criticizing and yet no one will be willing to help. The native doctor was created by God, all he owns is God's. I give glory to God in all. The only different is that I cannot pray openly here. I pray in my heart.

Since I came here, I feel better.  You will notice for two weeks or more, I don't complain again. 

Instead focus not on my wrong. Kindly pray for me please 

Kienyui 

 

[Disciple.Luke]

46 minutes ago, Kienyui said:

@BrotherTony  and @Disciple.Luke, when you rebuke someone, it is not hatred but love. I you didn't care about me, you will not waste you precious time and energy advising, rebuking and encouraging me.

I am not proud of any wrong doing, i am not in any way defending a wrong doing but i believe he will have mercy on me and help me overcome whatever situation i found myself. 

The Bible tells us that the earth is God's (Exodus 19:5. I(Plavious), all animals and every other thing on earth belong to God(Psalm 24:1).  Everything on earth and in heaven is his(1 chronicles 29:11).

Here at the native doctor's shrine, I have taken all form of concoctions including fresh heart of a cat. He has buried many other in my body through incisions. Special egg broken on my head.  I have drank blood of different animals. 

All those things were created by God. Each time it is being done, I pray in my heart and cancel all evil in God's creation given to me. I rather stay here than go around begging. If those things can treat me, there is no need leaving. 

If I keep insisting you help me, everyone will keep criticizing and yet no one will be willing to help. The native doctor was created by God, all he owns is God's. I give glory to God in all. The only different is that I cannot pray openly here. I pray in my heart.

Since I came here, I feel better.  You will notice for two weeks or more, I don't complain again. 

Instead focus not on my wrong. Kindly pray for me please 

Kienyui 

 

Typically I would've have sent you a private message to try to better understand your situation but I seen you post that you refuse to communicate that way believing it is somehow an attack. So I was left to sort of "think out loud" on your thread.

I haven't attacked you and was simply attempting to understand your posts with another forum member as opposed to talking behind your back in PMs. Again since you are suspicious of any type of private communication I assumed you preferred public discussion.

We can't PM you and you don't want us to discuss your situation publicly...what exactly would you expect us to do? Simply read your posts and tickle your ears with praise and thunderous applause? 

If you had taken time to read through some of my previous posts on this forum I would assume you could tell that I have a sincere interest in other religions... specifically monotheistic ones like Islam and Judaism. My questions for you were out of pure interest. I wasn't attacking you by asking if your mom and father's religion was Muslim at one time...I was attempting to have a discussion with you.

Unfortunately I know very little about Cameroon compared to some other African countries so I looked up the statistics that Toney and I were discussing to better understand the demographics you are coming from. I had no idea if Christians faced persecution or if possibly even sharia law may have been imposed there. 

Again I didn't mean anything as an attack and I don't believe anyone else here is trying to. By accusing people of an attack for PMing you you have made so we all have to dialogue with you publicly so you don't feel threatened and even when you do that we are still attacking you? I don't understand brother.

[Kienyui]

9 hours ago, BrotherTony said:

This is the information I have received from several sources concerning prominent religions. 

"Religion: Christianity is the predominant religion in Cameroon, divided among roughly 38% Catholics, 26% Protestants and 4% other Christian denominations. 21% of the population practice Islam and 6% some aspects of animist beliefs. Christians are mainly found in the southern and western parts of the country."

https://www.alberta.ca/iqas-education-guide-cameroon#:~:text=Religion%3A Christianity is the predominant,western parts of the country

 

I've heard of very few incidents like Kienyui has described. I'm not saying that he's being untruthful, but I am saying what he is saying is suspicious. 

One thing I will also love to clarify is that my case is not because of my faith but ongoing Anglophone crisis.  Remember schools are locked, churches closed down, courts locks, no mark even the mosques are closed.  No gathering. I 

Be it Christians or Muslims we suffer same.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2023/07/cameroon-rampant-atrocities-amid-anglophone-regions-must-be-stopped/

4 minutes ago, Disciple.Luke said:

Typically I would've have sent you a private message to try to better understand your situation but I seen you post that you refuse to communicate that way believing it is somehow an attack. So I was left to sort of "think out loud" on your thread.

I haven't attacked you and was simply attempting to understand your posts with another forum member as opposed to talking behind your back in PMs. Again since you are suspicious of any type of private communication I assumed you preferred public discussion.

We can't PM you and you don't want us to discuss your situation publicly...what exactly would you expect us to do? Simply read your posts and tickle your ears with praise and thunderous applause? 

If you had taken time to read through some of my previous posts on this forum I would assume you could tell that I have a sincere interest in other religions... specifically monotheistic ones like Islam and Judaism. My questions for you were out of pure interest. I wasn't attacking you by asking if your mom and father's religion was Muslim at one time...I was attempting to have a discussion with you.

Unfortunately I know very little about Cameroon compared to some other African countries so I looked up the statistics that Toney and I were discussing to better understand the demographics you are coming from. I had no idea if Christians faced persecution or if possibly even sharia law may have been imposed there. 

Again I didn't mean anything as an attack and I don't believe anyone else here is trying to. By accusing people of an attack for PMing you you have made so we all have to dialogue with you publicly so you don't feel threatened and even when you do that we are still attacking you? I don't understand brother.

No sir what you said is absolutely correct. Secondly, my English may not be very good.  I may have use some misleading words. Cameroon is more of a French than English 

Sorry if you see it that way @Disciple.Luke. I will gladly talk inbox if you don't mind

[Kienyui]

I encourage everyone to read and this will guide you understand better and pray for me.

https://www.chrda.org/206-villages-raided-and-partially-or-severely-burnt-in-the-anglophone-regions-of-cameroon-since-2016/

[BrotherTony]

6 hours ago, Kienyui said:

@BrotherTony  and @Disciple.Luke, when you rebuke someone, it is not hatred but love. I you didn't care about me, you will not waste you precious time and energy advising, rebuking and encouraging me.

I am not proud of any wrong doing, i am not in any way defending a wrong doing but i believe he will have mercy on me and help me overcome whatever situation i found myself. 

The Bible tells us that the earth is God's (Exodus 19:5. I(Plavious), all animals and every other thing on earth belong to God(Psalm 24:1).  Everything on earth and in heaven is his(1 chronicles 29:11).

Here at the native doctor's shrine, I have taken all form of concoctions including fresh heart of a cat. He has buried many other in my body through incisions. Special egg broken on my head.  I have drank blood of different animals. 

All those things were created by God. Each time it is being done, I pray in my heart and cancel all evil in God's creation given to me. I rather stay here than go around begging. If those things can treat me, there is no need leaving. 

If I keep insisting you help me, everyone will keep criticizing and yet no one will be willing to help. The native doctor was created by God, all he owns is God's. I give glory to God in all. The only different is that I cannot pray openly here. I pray in my heart.

Since I came here, I feel better.  You will notice for two weeks or more, I don't complain again. 

Instead focus not on my wrong. Kindly pray for me please 

Kienyui 

 

In your remarks here you say that you aren't proud of doing anything wrong, but, yet, in the same paragraph you go on to tell us what you've done. that doesn't seem like there's any shame in you over what you've done. Your witness to this "witch doctor" is in total shambles at this point, that is, if you've even tried to share the gospel with him. The earth is INDEED the Lords, and the fullness thereof, yet, the Lord gives clear guidelines on what is sin and what isn't, especially in the case you've given. Ephesians 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.  Though we are not under Levitical law, the Bible talks about eating and drinking of blood...this is a practice of pagans. If you're consistently doing something that you know is wrong according to scripture, that is sinning willfully, you'll be held to account on that when you stand before God, as it's trampling on the blood that Christ shed for you on the cross. 

If you don't have access to a good King James Bible, you can always read it online on several different sites. You truly need to get better acquainted with Him and His word. 

And again, I ask, if this animosity between the two or three factions in Cameroon is in certain areas of the country, and the government has access to all of these postings online, then I ask again....why are you posting on this site? I would find it hard to believe that they're monitoring your input on a site like OB unless you're somebody of importance that they want to have disappear from the face of the earth. 

As Disciple mentioned, we're just trying to understand your reasoning and what exactly you're trying to convey. Don't worry about your English, as we're pretty well able to understand you. I AM praying for you, regardless of what you think. 

By the way, what sectors are you in? Are you in a French-controlled area? If you would rather  communicate by DM, you can always feel free to send me a message. 

Edited April 1 by BrotherTony

[Kienyui]

4 hours ago, BrotherTony said:

In your remarks here you say that you aren't proud of doing anything wrong, but, yet, in the same paragraph you go on to tell us what you've done. that doesn't seem like there's any shame in you over what you've done. Your witness to this "witch doctor" is in total shambles at this point, that is, if you've even tried to share the gospel with him. The earth is INDEED the Lords, and the fullness thereof, yet, the Lord gives clear guidelines on what is sin and what isn't, especially in the case you've given. Ephesians 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.  Though we are not under Levitical law, the Bible talks about eating and drinking of blood...this is a practice of pagans. If you're consistently doing something that you know is wrong according to scripture, that is sinning willfully, you'll be held to account on that when you stand before God, as it's trampling on the blood that Christ shed for you on the cross. 

If you don't have access to a good King James Bible, you can always read it online on several different sites. You truly need to get better acquainted with Him and His word. 

And again, I ask, if this animosity between the two or three factions in Cameroon is in certain areas of the country, and the government has access to all of these postings online, then I ask again....why are you posting on this site? I would find it hard to believe that they're monitoring your input on a site like OB unless you're somebody of importance that they want to have disappear from the face of the earth. 

As Disciple mentioned, we're just trying to understand your reasoning and what exactly you're trying to convey. Don't worry about your English, as we're pretty well able to understand you. I AM praying for you, regardless of what you think. 

By the way, what sectors are you in? Are you in a French-controlled area? If you would rather  communicate by DM, you can always feel free to send me a message. 

Thank you, thank you again @BrotherTony. Thank you to everyone praying for us. Sometimes we just need a hug to shed a little tears of love and get released from some pains.

Permit me shed more light on my story.

I am Muh Plavious Kienyui, born in a Muslim family. My father was a Muslim leader, Alhaji Arouna. He gave his life to Christ after he came into contact with a white missionary and Engineer, Plavious. Months later I was born and he named me Plavious as a remembrance of his friend. 

A few years later, my both parents were brutally killed. I became an abominable child as harboring a child child was a curse to my Muslim family. I became a street child. I sell plastic water at bus stop to feed and to pay my school fee. I knew that after school, I will be able to pick a job and helpself. Later in 2016, the Anglophone crisis started and I butchered on the leg, stomach, on the hand and head. I was helpless for year, unable to walk. Unable to access adequate medical treatment. Some people will give me food, other will give me money and some. Miraculously, I saw my wounds healing and getting better. 

Later in 2018, I made an attempt to trek to Europe through the Mediterranean Sea but failed.  Last year after so much suffering and pains, I also attempted but couldn't because of my health. I then move to Yaounde, where I am presently. 

My primary arm of coming online was the hope of meeting engineer Plavious. I thought he will be in one of the forums, he will recognize me. Unfortunately my father was not literate.  He had left no information about his friend. 

I have been banned from all the forums after asking for assistance except here. I understand it is the forums policy and I went against it. I was too desperate and unleashed my frustration and desperation in the forums.

Guide me in your truth and teach me, for you are God my Savior, and my hope is in you all day long( Micah 7:7). If you think you understand me, I myself I am confused about my life. Sometimes I don't even understand anything. Sometimes I just have to sit on a branch of a tree, run some tears and walk away.

if you are angry at me for asking for help lately, forgive me. I have come to understand that it is not by writing all over the internet that my situation can change. I now understand that my efforts cannot change my situation.  I now understand that God knows why i am going through this.

Another apology for the accusation I made. The government wanted my head because I wrote and went to the American embassy in Yaounde asking for help. The embassy wrote to the national security to look into my situation but instead they arrested me, torture me, and locked me up for exposing the inhuman treatment of Anglophone in Cameroon.