Where Is The New 'temple' Going To Be Built? Inside The Walls Or Out?

[Genevanpreacher]

I am curious where this information comes from, that there will be a new temple built.

[Standing Firm In Christ]

From the Bible. 2 Thes. 2, Dan. 9, Rev. 11

[LindaR]

“Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God” (2 Thessalonians 2:3-4).

 

Another sign of the end times is the preparation for the building of the Third Temple. The Temple is mentioned in prophecies pertaining to the antichrist. See Daniel 9:27; Matthew 24:15; 2 Thessalonians 2:4.

 

The first temple was built by Solomon and the second temple was built by Zerubbabel and Joshua (Ezra 2-5) and later enlarged by Herod the Great.

 

A visitor is reminded of the Temple on every hand in Israel today. It is even on their coins. The 1/10 shekel features a menorah. The 1/2 shekel has a 7th-century lyre of the type that was used in the Temple. The menorah is also the symbol of the Israeli Knesset or Parliament. There is a large one right outside the Knesset’s main gates and another one in a little garden at the entrance from the main road.

 

Since the 1980s, the idea of building the Third Temple has gained rapidly in popularity among the Jewish citizens of Israel. In 1986, David Shipler wrote in his book Arab and Jew, “During my five years in Jerusalem [1979-84], the idea of building a Third Temple in place of Al-Aqsa and the Dome of the Rock evolved from a wild notion held by a very few fringe militants into a goal embraced and legitimized by parts of the established right wing.” By 2003, a poll by the Jerusalem Post found that 80% of Jews in Israel want to see the Temple rebuilt.  

 

Since 1994, the Women in Green movement has organized a march around the Temple Mount in recognition of Risha B’Av, the day of mourning over the destruction of the Jewish temple. The march begins with the reading of the book of Lamentations in front of the American Consulate and then proceeds to circle the walls of the Old City. Thousands joined in the march in July 2012. Nadia Matar, the leader of Women in Green, told Arutz Sheva TV, “We walk around the Old City to say that Jerusalem is ours. The Temple Mount is ours. Like a bride going around the groom we go around the Temple Mount, showing our loyalty and our love to Jerusalem. ... Altogether we are saying the land of Israel is ours, Jerusalem is ours, and we pray for the day that Tisha B’AV will turn from a fast day into a day of holiday when we can all dance to the Temple Mount.”

 

In March 2010 posters calling for the building of the Third Temple appeared on buses plying eastern Jerusalem routes. The posters, sponsored by Our Land of Israel, featured a depiction of the Temple occupying the place of the Dome of the Rock mosque and a Hebrew phrase that translates, “May the Bais Hamikdosh [Jerusalem temple] be rebuilt speedily and within our days.” A leader of Our Land of Israel, Baruch Marzel, said, “We’re representing the truth, in front of everyone, and saying out loud what every Jew believes. That the Third Temple needs to be built immediately on the Temple Mount and that the mosque should not be there” (Jerusalem Post, May 29, 2010). Predictably, the posters caused a storm of protest from Muslims and were removed after a couple of days.

 

In the late 1960s the Temple Mount Faithful (the full name is the Temple Mount and Land of Israel Faithful) was established to rebuild the Temple. Its leader, Gershon Salomon, is a descendant of Rabbi Avraham Shlomo Zalman Zoref, who in the early 1800s was one of the pioneers of the modern movement to prepare for the rebuilding of the Temple. Zoref even sent one of his sons overseas to locate the “ten lost tribes” of Israel, but the rabbi’s life was cut short when he was assassinated by Arabs. The great grandson Salomon is a military officer who has fought in most of Israel’s modern wars, beginning with the War of Independence. During a battle in 1958 on the Golan Heights, a battle in which his company of 120 Israeli soldiers was ambushed by thousands of Syrians, Salomon was run over by a tank and seriously injured (he claims he actually died). When the Syrians were about to shoot him to make sure he was dead, they suddenly ran away, leaving the battlefield in the hands of the little company of Israelis. The Syrians later reported to UN officers that they had seen thousands of angels around Salomon. He says that during that experience he saw the light of God and he knew he still had work to do, which was the rebuilding of the Temple and the preparation of the “coming of Messiah ben David.” Salomon was one of the soldiers that liberated the Temple Mount in 1967.

 

The Temple Mount Faithful has prepared plans for the Temple and is constructing articles for its operation. Since 1989, they have been trying to place a large stone on the Temple Mount as the cornerstone of the Third Temple. (The first stone was stolen and was replaced in 2001 by two stones.) Each year they parade the stones through Jerusalem on a truck to stir up support for their OBjective.

 

In 1986, the Temple Institute was founded with the goal “to see Israel rebuild the Holy Temple on Mount Moriah in Jerusalem.” The founder and director of the Temple Institute, Rabbi Yisrael Ariel, was a member of the paratrooper unit that liberated the Temple Mount.

 

Like the Temple Mount Faithful (but with competing plans), the Institute is preparing articles to be used in the new Temple. At much expense ($20 million has been donated so far) and based on extensive research, they have fashioned priestly garments, the high priest’s golden crown costing $30,000, the high priest’s breastplate with its 12 precious stones inscribed with the names of the tribes of Israel, a copper laver, an incense altar, silver trumpets, gold- and silver-plated shofars, harps, and many other things.

 

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Preparation for  Rebuilding the Jewish Temple

[Covenanter]

I am curious where this information comes from, that there will be a new temple built.

John 2:19 John 4

Ezekiel 40-48 

Zec. 6:10-15

Eph. 2

1 Peter 2

 

From the Bible. 2 Thes. 2, Dan. 9, Rev. 11

Linda adds Mat. 24:15 - which refers to Dan. 9:27 

 

It is a matter of interpretation. All Bible prophecy was written before the destruction of the temple in AD 70, with the arguable exception of Revelation. So the temple destruction referred to is the 2nd temple destruction Jesus prophesied in Mat. 24 Mark 13 & Luke 

 

The temple Linda refers to seems quite likely to be built, but will such a building be in accord with prophecy? It could be in accord with dispensationalist prophecy - built for the antichrist to occupy, & to be destroyed within 7 years. The animal sacrifices offered would be a direct rejection of Calvary, & totally unacceptable to God. [At least in this dispensation of grace.] 

 

A future millennial temple - Ezekiel's ? - would be a fourth temple would not be built for destruction but for the Messiah. Eze. 43:7 reads:

⁷ And he said unto me, Son of man, the place of my throne, and the place of the soles of my feet, where I will dwell in the midst of the children of Israel for ever, and my holy name, shall the house of Israel no more defile, neither they, nor their kings, by their whoredom, nor by the carcases of their kings in their high places.

 

I prefer to think in terms of the temple the Lord is building today, with his redeemed people, with living stones, for an habitation of God through the Spirit. Eph. 2:19-22 1 Peter 2:1-10 

[Genevanpreacher]

Ok, I need to edit this thought.

 

I mean, the title is the question. I know all the verses everyone is posting.

 

Where will it be built?

[LindaR]

Where has the "temple of God" always been located?  Where is "thy holy city" in Daniel 9:24 and Revelation 11:2?

 

The temple which the returned Jews will rebuild and which Antichrist will desecrate will be located in the “holy city”, which is Jerusalem.

 

Daniel 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

 

Daniel 9:25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

 

Daniel 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

 

Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the OBlation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

 

Revelation 11:1 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.
 

Revelation 11:2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.

[DaveW]

If a temple is going to be rebuilt on earth then it must be built on the temple mount..........

[Genevanpreacher]

From the Bible. 2 Thes. 2, Dan. 9, Rev. 11

 

2 Thess. 2 - only mentions "the temple of God", not really a concise description of a new Jewish Temple.

Daniel 9 - is talking about the sacrifice of the Lord on the cross and the veil of the temple being torn all the

way through and revealing that which,in the sacrifices of the old covenant, should not have been revealed.

Thus causing the 'sacrifice and OBlations' to cease.

[yeah I know some think the sacrifices kept on being done, and I am sure they were, but to no avail.]

Rev. 11 - now that's a horse of a different color. Try reading chapter 10 before proclaiming a new Temple on earth, before eternity starts.

[Genevanpreacher]

Where has the "temple of God" always been located?  Where is "thy holy city" in Daniel 9:24 and Revelation 11:2?

 

The temple which the returned Jews will rebuild and which Antichrist will desecrate will be located in the “holy city”, which is Jerusalem.

 

Daniel 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. [No mention of a new Temple.]

 

Daniel 9:25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. [No mention of a new Temple.]

 

Daniel 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. [No mention of a new Temple.]

 

Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the OBlation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. [Read post number 8 above.]

 

Revelation 11:1 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein. [No mention of an earthly new Temple.]
 

Revelation 11:2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months. [No mention of a new Temple.]

[Genevanpreacher]

If a temple is going to be rebuilt on earth then it must be built on the temple mount..........

 

Why there?

[LindaR]

Genevanpreacher,

 

It's really unfortunate and sad that you have totally eliminated the Millennial reign of Christ in your interpretation of the Scriptures which were posted concerning the third temple (which is not the NEW temple, but the rebuilt "tribulation" temple).

 

Daniel 9:26 speaks of Messiah being "cut off" (crucified)  BEFORE the abomination of desolation (verse 27).  Therefore Daniel 9:27 has absolutely nothing to do with the sacrifice of Christ on the cross.  That took place in verse 26 in 29AD.  Verse 27 is yet future.

 

The context of Revelation 11 is the two witnesses who will be prophesying during the first 3 and 1/2  years of the 7 year tribulation period...a future event.  The first two verses do speak of the third temple, which is the "tribulation" temple.

 

BTW, there will be 2 more temples rebuilt....the "tribulation" (third) temple, which will the Antichrist will desecrate (the abomination of desolation--Daniel 9:27 and Matthew 24:15) and the Millennial Temple in which the presence of God will inhabit (Jesus Christ will sit on David's throne in that temple).
 

[DaveW]

Why there?

The Temple of Lord was built there originally, rebuilt there later - why would it be built anywhere else?

Besides:
2Ch 3:1 Then Solomon began to build the house of the LORD at Jerusalem in mount Moriah, where the LORD appeared unto David his father, in the place that David had prepared in the threshingfloor of Ornan the Jebusite.

.....it is the site prepared for the Temple.....

[Genevanpreacher]

The Temple of Lord was built there originally, rebuilt there later - why would it be built anywhere else?

Besides:
2Ch 3:1 Then Solomon began to build the house of the LORD at Jerusalem in mount Moriah, where the LORD appeared unto David his father, in the place that David had prepared in the threshingfloor of Ornan the Jebusite.

.....it is the site prepared for the Temple.....

 

Thank you for your answer.

[Genevanpreacher]

Genevanpreacher,

 

It's really unfortunate and sad that you have totally eliminated the Millennial reign of Christ in your interpretation of the Scriptures which were posted concerning the third temple (which is not the NEW temple, but the rebuilt "tribulation" temple).

 

Daniel 9:26 speaks of Messiah being "cut off" (crucified)  BEFORE the abomination of desolation (verse 27).  Therefore Daniel 9:27 has absolutely nothing to do with the sacrifice of Christ on the cross.  That took place in verse 26 in 29AD.  Verse 27 is yet future.

 

The context of Revelation 11 is the two witnesses who will be prophesying during the first 3 and 1/2  years of the 7 year tribulation period...a future event.  The first two verses do speak of the third temple, which is the "tribulation" temple.

 

BTW, there will be 2 more temples rebuilt....the "tribulation" (third) temple, which will the Antichrist will desecrate (the abomination of desolation--Daniel 9:27 and Matthew 24:15) and the Millennial Temple in which the presence of God will inhabit (Jesus Christ will sit on David's throne in that temple).
 

 

Ok, so now we have a rebuilt tribulation temple?

Never heard that before.

 

BTW - don't be sad. The Lord is reigning in my heart, as well as all Christians hearts.

 

²⁷ And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the OBlation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

 

Nope, don't see no "abomination of desolation" here. And it doesn't even mention a 'man of sin' either! Hmm...

[Standing Firm In Christ]

An important Bible rule is "Scripture must interpret Scripture".  Don't just read Daniel 9:27 and build a doctrine off of it.  One piece of a jigsaw puzzle does not tell one all that is about the puzzle. 

Study all end times Scripture, and you get the whole picture.