Former Youth Pastor Arrested on Charges of Voyeurism

36 minutes ago, Pastor Matt said:

We need to find a way to keep these predators from being around our children/wives. 

Amen to that! Vetting doesn't always work. This makes me want to vomit. And then get a baseball bat.......

The guy has a classic Neo-Nazi haircut. 

I've been acquainted with several people who have ended up being arrested for sexual abuse grooming, etc. The pastor of the church that had the first Bible college I went to had his son as youth pastor. That son was arrested for sexual abuse and grooming. I believe he's in prison at present. The former youth pastor at the church my wife and I are members of was arrested and charged with those things. It truly seems that this kind of thing is prevalent amongst our churches, and that is sad.

On 6/16/2023 at 6:32 PM, Pastor Matt said:

We need to find a way to keep these predators from being around our children/wives. 

According to God's word, the only sure fire way of accomplishing this would be to castrate ALL men.  Gen 1:28, Matt 19:11-12, 1 Cor. 7:9 and 1 Cor: 7:4-5.  Because like Happy pointed out, how do you vet a married man with a clean background???

11 hours ago, robmac68 said:

According to God's word, the only sure fire way of accomplishing this would be to castrate ALL men.  Gen 1:28, Matt 19:11-12, 1 Cor. 7:9 and 1 Cor: 7:4-5.  Because like Happy pointed out, how do you vet a married man with a clean background???

I understand that. I also believe that we should place more accountability measures with our pastors and staff members.  

Changing workers, those that work with the youth/children should be done regularly. Even if they are doing a good job. This also applies to other positions in the church.

Working in pairs or more, like we do when dealing with two different sexes can be an effective means. Don't allow one on one situations.

1 hour ago, TheGloryLand said:

Changing workers, those that work with the youth/children should be done regularly. Even if they are doing a good job. This also applies to other positions in the church.

  

 

 

 

 

I don't necessarily agree with your assessment. If someone is hired as the youth minister, if he's capable, doing a great job, and there are no problems, he should be left in place.  I've been in many churches where the youth minister and workers have been in place for many years, and there have been no problems. Those that have been in the youth groups love, cherish, trust, and respect these people. And many churches aren't large enough or have enough people to do this. If they did as you are suggesting, the church would be in a constant state of disarray.

Not only that @BrotherTony but if he is the youth pastor, he should be called to that position, not appointed. The office of pastor, whether senior or youth is a calling by God, not an appointment by man.

You really want to vomit?  I read about this guy that not only watched a young woman bathing, he actually had her husband killed because he slept with her and he wanted to cover up getting her pregnant!  I'll grab a rope if someone wants to get a ball bat.

BTW, 2 Samuel 11:2

"A youth pastor in upstate South Carolina has been charged after allegedly filming multiple women and girls as young as 14 while they showered or used the restroom, including while at church"

I don't consider a 14yo as a young girl but more of a young woman.  I was sus when the article stated he also filmed a "woman" at her mother's house.  If most men are honest, they have seen 14yo that were attractive but didn't know they were under 18.  In other words, teen girls a lot of the time look like adult women.  Now I am not giving him a pass because he was well aware of their age.  It just isn't as sickening as thinking he was "lusting" after 8 year olds.  

3 minutes ago, robmac68 said:

You really want to vomit?  I read about this guy that not only watched a young woman bathing, he actually had her husband killed because he slept with her and he wanted to cover up getting her pregnant!  I'll grab a rope if someone wants to get a ball bat.

BTW, 2 Samuel 11:2

"A youth pastor in upstate South Carolina has been charged after allegedly filming multiple women and girls as young as 14 while they showered or used the restroom, including while at church"

I don't consider a 14yo as a young girl but more of a young woman.  I was sus when the article stated he also filmed a "woman" at her mother's house.  If most men are honest, they have seen 14yo that were attractive but didn't know they were under 18.  In other words, teen girls a lot of the time look like adult women.  Now I am not giving him a pass because he was well aware of their age.  It just isn't as sickening as thinking he was "lusting" after 8 year olds.  

I don't see where the article called this a "young girl." It states "as young as," and that's totally different. Love your reference to King David... But, is that really applicable here? She was a married woman....jus' sayin'.

1 hour ago, robmac68 said:

Now I am not giving him a pass because he was well aware of their age.  It just isn't as sickening as thinking he was "lusting" after 8 year olds.  

Let's put this in perspective, he was married with two children. It's sickening to me anytime someone cheats on their spouse, to willingly do it with someone that's a young woman is another level.

Don't get me wrong, I truly pray that he repents and turns from his ways. He has disqualified himself from the pastoral position.