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    Jim_Alaska reacted to Pastor Scott Markle in Satan and Eden   
    This seems off to me according to the grammar of Ezekiel 28:12-17; for the grammar seems only to describe the "king of Tyrus" himself, not the Garden of Eden at all:
    "Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD;
    1.  Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.
    2.  Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God;
    3.  every precious stone was THY COVERING, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold:
    4.  the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
    5.  Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so:
    6.  thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.
    7.  Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
    8.  By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned:
    9.  therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.
    10.  Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness:
    11.  I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee."
    Grammatically, in verse 13 (as per #2 & #3 above) the description of precious stones is NOT presented as a description for the Garden of Eden.  Rather, the description of precious stones is presented as a description of the king of Tyrus' PERSONAL covering.  In fact, the only thing that verse 13 says about the Garden of Eden is simply that the king of Tyrus had been in that garden.  It says nothing about precious stones as a part of that garden.
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    Jim_Alaska reacted to Jerry in Satan and Eden   
    One book I have called The Serpent Of Paradise by Erwin Lutzer states this:
    This Eden was not the garden of Eden, for this is a description of mineral beauty, not vegetation. It is a garden bedecked with jewels and every form of extravagance, a paradise that is a suitable home for one who possessed creaturely perfections.
    A couple of the other resources I have do not mention this subject. If I find out any more references, I will try to post them here too.
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    Jim_Alaska reacted to 1Timothy115 in My Perfect Community? Anyone?   
    I was told by a pastor, in jest, as soon as you find the "perfect church" and join the community it becomes imperfect. 
    Romans 14:4   Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.
    Another pastor told me the church is a hospital for broken or ailing souls.
    Mark 2:17   When Jesus heard it, he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
    But by all means continue your search.
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    Jim_Alaska reacted to BrotherTony in Whats for Supper...   
    I totally understand about not feeling well HappyChristian. It was overly hot again today, but a severe thunderstom rolled through and it relieved us of the heat for about two hours. Now it's back up to 90 with 60% humidity. I felt sorry for our pastor, who had come out to mow our lawn since I no longer a able to do so. I took him a gatorade before he got his weed eater. So, we're going to once again have sandwiches (sarnies)  as some of my friends from the UK call them. My wife didn't want me to cook. She gets like that sometimes and just wants sandwiches or soup. It's almost five o'clock here, and she's just now leaving work over an hour away. 65+ miles one way, so an hour to two hours depending on the traffic. 
     
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    Jim_Alaska got a reaction from 1Timothy115 in The Morality Behind Christian Women Wearing Pants   
    The Bible does not say women should not wear pants. This whole issue is a non-issue as far as I am concerned. This is a doctrine of and by man based on man's bias, not Scripture.
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    Jim_Alaska reacted to Pastor Scott Markle in The Morality Behind Christian Women Wearing Pants   
    Brother Wayne,
    The best answer that I can give is that which I provided earlier to Brother Carl --
    If the translators had translated the verse with the word "armor," then many would likely conclude that since men no longer wear armor, the verse has no application for us today.  However, by translating the verse with the phrase that they did, they allowed the PRINCIPLE of the verse to be communicated across times and cultures.  Furthermore, since the Hebrew word itself does NOT strictly mean "armor," but actually means "that which is manufactured (from natural substances)," they were quite accurate in their translational choice.  It is through a diligent Hebrew word study throughout the entire Old Testament that the Bible student is able to discern the Biblical reality that the Hebrew word is never even once used for "that which is made of clothe, clothing," but is used a number of times for the attire of armor and of jewelry.
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    Jim_Alaska reacted to Pastor Scott Markle in The Morality Behind Christian Women Wearing Pants   
    Indeed, Brother "1Timothy115,"
    Even for myself, who is somewhat driven by personality and ability to study diligently, I find that the battle against true Bible study rages daily; and I must confess that I fail therein all too often, and thereby commit sin against my precious Lord and Savior.
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    Jim_Alaska got a reaction from John Young in "sons of God"   
    Preacher, I would respectfully suggest that you do a search of this forum for this subject. This topic has been discussed many times over the years. I suggest a search because this has been requested by this board's owner in his published rules, which are as follows:
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    Jim_Alaska reacted to Rebecca in "Counseling"   
    A pastor can give advice, or counsel, but I believe there is a limit in what he can or should do within the confines of a pastorate. 
    I'm not a pastor, but I do work in ministry with ladies and children. Several years ago I was teaching a ladies Bible study when a lady privately asked for counsel. I quickly learned that what she needed was a doctor, and I was not and am not qualified to counsel someone with that level of needs. Unfortunately the situation ended sadly. This taught me to always be very careful with the advice I give and to understand when I am at my limit and the person needs professional help, not spiritual help. I would hope every pastor knows their limits and to know when to advise the person seek a medical professional. 
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    Jim_Alaska reacted to HappyChristian in Whats for Supper...   
    I do love the flavor of it, though. And I like spicy, but the older I get the more I lean toward the flavor, especially since I can't handle the spice and tomato. Ugh, getting old is not for sissies! lol. My brother said it wasn't spicy, but both my mom and hubs said it was. Hubs had two bowls, though, so it had to be tasty.
    We have a Chili and a Movie afternoon on the Sunday after New Year's Day. There are usually several pots of chili from which to sample and it ranges from the mildest to quite spicy (our son and another man in the church LOVE ghost peppers...). We did a competition the first year, but since then have just had the chili dinner.
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    Jim_Alaska reacted to OLD fashioned preacher in TGL How can I be a better person here   
    I've been around MANY people (from Mexico, C.A., Korea, Philippines) who had morphological and/or syntactical difficulties with English. His seems more an attempt to butcher (think someone "faking" Ebonics, Southern or Country lingo and getting it wrong) the language intentionally. Him being a chain jerker, it would seem in line with humoring himself at our expense -- of, all in good fun.
    For the record, I don't have a problem with it (meaning I don't mind -- not meaning it always makes sense).
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    Jim_Alaska got a reaction from HappyChristian in "sons of God"   
    Preacher, I would respectfully suggest that you do a search of this forum for this subject. This topic has been discussed many times over the years. I suggest a search because this has been requested by this board's owner in his published rules, which are as follows:
    Board Rules For OnlineBaptist.com
    Members are responsible to check this page regularly for any changes or additions that were made.
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    a) It's a personal site
    b) It's to help somebody find something they're looking for
    c) All inappropriate sites will be deleted without notice.
     
    2.     Do not post Spam
    a) Spam includes advertisements, content deemed inappropriate or illegal, flooding of the boards, double posts, and posts that are posted just to bring hits to your website;
    b) Spammers will be banned from the boards.
    c) If your first post contains a link, it might be considered spam. Add links to your profile instead.
     
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    The Administrators and Moderators of this site believe that the KJV is Gods preserved Word for the English speaking people, and we ask that you respect that and use the KJV when quoting scripture.
     
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    b) Please do a search before posting the message to see if the topic already exists. We don't need 3 different threads to talk about 1 topic. We will lock any double threads, 1 is enough.
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    Jim_Alaska got a reaction from HappyChristian in Whats for Supper...   
    HC, like you. my stomach wouldn't take all that hot stuff and tomato. too acidy for me. That, and unlike most people, I don't like chili. It seems to me that most people that like chili will always say how good it is by how hot it is.
    At church we have a chili cook off once per year and a bit of a contest to see who made the best chili, invariably it is the hottest.
    I would think that flavor would be the determining factor, but over the years ii just seems to me that spicy-hot is most peoples determining factor. But, what do I know? The guy that doesn't even like it.
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    Jim_Alaska reacted to BrotherTony in Whats for Supper...   
    Baked chicken, rice and gravy, and peas for dinner last evening! I was going to try and make biscuits, but, thanks to the power outage caused by an electrical storm in the area the oven needed to remain closed to keep the heat in and finish baking the chicken. 
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    Jim_Alaska reacted to Pastor Scott Markle in The Morality Behind Christian Women Wearing Pants   
    "Skirt," according to the 1828 Webster's Dictionary, means --
    1.  "The lower and loose part of a coat or other garment; the part below the waist; as the skirt of a coat or mantle. 1 Samuel 15:17"
    2.  "The edge of any part of dress."
    3.  "Border; edge; margin; extreme part; as the skirt of a forest; the skirt of a town."
    4.  "A woman's garment like a petticoat."
    5.  "The diaphragm or midriff in animals.
    Of these definitions three of them relate to a type or part of clothing -- #1, #2, & #3.  In relation to a robe type garment, definition #1 & #2 would have application.  Now, all of the references to a "skirt" in the Old Testament are as follows:
    Deuteronomy 22:30 -- "A man shall not take his father’s wife, nor discover his father’s skirt." (Man's wear)
    Deuteronomy 27:20 -- "Cursed be he that lieth with his father’s wife; because he uncovereth his father’s skirt. And all the people shall say, Amen." (Man's wear)
    Ruth 3:9 -- "And he said, Who art thou? And she answered, I am Ruth thine handmaid: spread therefore thy skirt over thine handmaid; for thou art a near kinsman." (Man's wear)
    1 Samuel 15:27 -- "And as Samuel turned about to go away, he laid hold upon the skirt of his mantle, and it rent." (Man's wear)
    1 Samuel 24:4-5 -- "And the men of David said unto him, Behold the day of which the LORD said unto thee, Behold, I will deliver thine enemy into thine hand, that thou mayest do to him as it shall seem good unto thee. Then David arose, and cut off the skirt of Saul’s robe privily. And it came to pass afterward, that David’s heart smote him, because he had cut off Saul’s skirt." (Man's wear)
    1 Samuel 24:11 -- "Moreover, my father, see, yea, see the skirt of thy robe in my hand: for in that I cut off the skirt of thy robe, and killed thee not, know thou and see that there is neither evil nor transgression in mine hand, and I have not sinned against thee; yet thou huntest my soul to take it." (Man's wear)
    Psalm 133:2 -- "It is like the precious ointment upon the head, that ran down upon the beard, even Aaron’s beard: that went down to the skirts of his garments." (High Priest's wear, fashioned by God Himself)
    Jeremiah 2:34 -- "Also in thy skirts is found the blood of the souls of the poor innocents: I have not found it by secret search, but upon all these." (Woman's wear, by implication in that the nation of Israel is represented as a woman)
    Jeremiah 13:22 -- "And if thou say in thine heart, Wherefore come these things upon me? For the greatness of thine iniquity are thy skirts discovered, and thy heels made bare." (Woman's wear, by implication in that the nation of Israel is represented as a woman)
    Jeremiah 13:26 -- "Therefore will I discover thy skirts upon thy face, that thy shame may appear." (Woman's wear, by implication in that the nation of Israel is represented as a woman)
    Lamentations 1:9 -- "Her filthiness is in her skirts; she remembereth not her last end; therefore she came down wonderfully: she had no comforter. O LORD, behold my affliction: for the enemy hath magnified himself." (Woman's wear, by implication in that the nation of Israel is represented as a woman)
    Ezekiel 5:3 -- "Thou shalt also take thereof a few in number, and bind them in thy skirts." (Man's wear, that of the prophet himself)
    Ezekial 16:8 -- "Now when I passed by thee, and looked upon thee, behold, thy time was the time of love; and I spread my skirt over thee, and covered thy nakedness: yea, I sware unto thee, and entered into a covenant with thee, saith the Lord GOD, and thou becamest mine." (God's wear, as this is a portrayal of God Himself)
    Nahum 3:5 -- "Behold, I am against thee, saith the LORD of hosts; and I will discover thy skirts upon thy face, and I will shew the nations thy nakedness, and the kingdoms thy shame." (Woman's wear, by implication in that the city of Nineveh is represented as a woman)
    Haggai 2:12 -- "If one bear holy flesh in the skirt of his garment, and with his skirt do touch bread, or pottage, or wine, or oil, or any meat, shall it be holy? And the priests answered and said, No." (Priest's wear)
    Zechariah 8:23 -- "Thus saith the LORD of hosts; In those days it shall come to pass, that ten men shall take hold out of all languages of the nations, even shall take hold of the skirt of him that is a Jew, saying, We will go with you: for we have heard that God is with you." (Man's wear, concerning Jewish men during the Millennial Kingdom of our Lord)
    Now, as per each context, it does not seem accurate to claim that in every one of these cases the word "skirt(s)" simply means the hem or fringe.  This may be accurate for some of the above cases, but it does not at all seem accurate for all of the above cases.  Furthermore, by definition any reference to robe-wear implies skirt-wear, since a robe includes an open bottomed portion below the waist (as per the 1828 Webster's meaning #1 above, which he specifically applied to the passage in 1 Samuel 15).  So, how many references to robe-wear are there in the Holy Scriptures; and who all is portrayed as wearing a robe?  Because every reference to robe-wear is by definition and implication also a reference to skirt-wear.
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    Jim_Alaska reacted to OLD fashioned preacher in I tried peeking into the ladies forum here….   
    Reminds me of something from a "Patch the Pirate" tape - "You're trying to make a fool out of me!""No fiendly, you're doing a fine job of that yourself."
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    Jim_Alaska reacted to Jerry in When I Read The Bible Through   
    When I Read The Bible Through
    I supposed I knew my Bible,
    Reading piecemeal, hit or miss,
    Now a bit of John or Matthew,
    Now a snatch of Genesis,
    Certain chapters of Isaiah,
    Certain Psalms (the twenty-third),
    Twelfth of Romans, First of Proverbs -
    Yes, I thought I knew the Word!
    But I found that thorough reading
    Was a different thing to do,
    And the way was unfamiliar
    When I read the Bible through.
    You who like to play at Bible,
    Dip and dabble, here and there,
    Just before you kneel aweary,
    And yawn through a hurried prayer;
    You who treat the Crown of Writings
    As you treat no other book -
    Just a paragraph disjointed,
    Just a crude impatient look -
    Try a worthier procedure,
    Try a broad and steady view;
    You will kneel in very rapture
    When you read the Bible through!
    by Amos R. Wells
    2 Timothy 3:15-17  And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
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    Jim_Alaska reacted to heartstrings in "Counseling"   
    The way I see it Biblically, I would suggest that women get help from Godly women counselors, and that men see only Godly men. That should remedy the problem.
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    Jim_Alaska reacted to HappyChristian in "Counseling"   
    Read the book Wolves Among Lambs by Stacey Shiflett. It is a very well written book about sexual abuse and things like counseling...he sets out some ideas in how to avoid the pitfalls of it. One of those is something that my husband and I have already discussed: never be alone with someone of the opposite sex. ESPECIALLY behind closed doors. And in a counseling situation? When the emotions are involved? Alarm bells! Anyone who thinks they can withstand temptation is simply deluding him/herself ("Let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall"). 
    I see no problem with pastors counseling folks. And, really, just because the Bible doesn't say something like "thou shalt counsel" does not make it wrong to do so. However, biblical principle needs to be applied in that area as well. Wisdom as to just how much counsel the pastor (or pastor's wife) can/should give needs to be sought from the Lord. Heart, I think your caveat "as it is practiced today" is important...there are changes that must be made.
    I've known folks who've gone to Christian counselors - licensed, "professional" - whose lives were ruined as a result. So there is no guarantee there, either. Bluntly, I would rather receive counsel from someone who is immersed in the Word of God and not the world's view of psychology (and, yes, I do know that's what Christian counselors study...I was on that path myself, so I am aware of the things they need to learn). I'm not saying that it's not a good idea to know how the human mind works; it is dangerous to take the world's philosophies and "Christianize" them, which is what many Christian psychologists (not all, so no attack) do. There are some good ones out there, but they do need to be carefully vetted before going to them for counsel. And one must realize that, no matter how "professional" any counselor is, the possibility of temptation is still there. While it is not as popular, currently, to talk about the abuse perpetrated on patients by counselors, it is there. When counseling is involved, the emotions are involved, and that is where the temptation can begin. (again, not saying Christian psychologists are bad, just saying one must be as careful of them as any other counselor)
    Is it any wonder that Christ asked if He would find faith on the earth when He returns? Woe to the pastors that scatter my sheep, God says. And there's an awful lot of scattering going on. 😟 
  20. Strongly Disagree
    Jim_Alaska reacted to TheGloryLand in I tried peeking into the ladies forum here….   
    Truth, Christians love to gossip, this is a weakness in our churches, and our homes.
    This could be a good topic here.
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    Jim_Alaska reacted to Salyan in I tried peeking into the ladies forum here….   
    To be quite frank, the ladies forum isn’t busy either. Although it’s a bit disturbing that TGL tried looking into it…
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    Jim_Alaska reacted to Pastor Scott Markle in The Morality Behind Christian Women Wearing Pants   
    Here is a very serious set of questions on the matter of standards in general (and thus also on the matter of standards in the realm of clothing) --
    Is it possible for us to mandate a "standard" in a given area (not simply for our own behavior, but over the behavior of others) that is more strict than the Lord our God Himself would mandate?
    Is it possible for us to mandate such a "stricter standard" than the Lord our God, and even base that standard on principles from God's own Word?
    If it is possible for us to so mandate such a "stricter standard" than the Lord our God, how bad of a thing is it for us to do?
    (Note: Consider 1 Timothy 4:1-3 -- "Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; fobidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth."
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    Jim_Alaska got a reaction from TheGloryLand in I tried peeking into the ladies forum here….   
    No, ladies only. They need a place to discuss lady and private lady only stuff.
    Another forum isn't very helpful, we already have more than enough. It is this way with most active message boards, people always want more categories, which makes more work for mods and admins.
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    Jim_Alaska reacted to BrotherTony in Whats for Supper...   
    Tonight we had a breaded pork fritter since I didn't want to make the hand-breaded pork tenderloin sandwiches. Was a long day starting at 2:30 AM. We made it into town by 7 AM to find a parking space since the Murfreesboro's Farmers Market was up this week, and every week until fall. Vivian and I both got our hair cut. I lost my Santa Claus hair and beard. Vivian lost 5" off her hair. Then we bought a table and five chairs at a yard sale. We'd needed the chairs and had been praying for some that would fit around our table for Bible studies. Vivian saw it on Wednesday when she passed the sale, and it was still there this morning. So, we stopped and bought it. Then on to Aldi to get groceries, Walgreens for a prescription, and to get our mail. We got home around 11:30 AM. For dessert we're going to have vanilla ice cream with hot fudge sauce on it. 🙂 Bailey is going to have an ice pop. 
  25. Praying
    Jim_Alaska reacted to OLD fashioned preacher in Prayer need AND an unabashed request for financial help   
    As an update, let me start with saying THANK YOU for the financial help (Bro Alan was a huge blessing - wish he was still around to read this) and prayers. Esther underwent several surgeries, debridement procedures, grafts, stretching exercises, and release surgeries. She has 100% range of motion (more than I have) and is playing piano. We're about to spend 5 weeks there (starting this Mon), she has another baby brother arriving.
    Again, thank you.
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