Good experiments

[qwerty guy]

Kent Hovind likes to talk about putting dirt in a jar with water, shaking it up and it'll layer out like the so-called geological collum. This does work, but you need to make sure you have a good amount of different types of minerals in there or you look stupid. Sand, clay, top soil... different densities so it works.

You can make your own fossils, but this takes a year, and I joke about making diamonds, but that takes a good chunk of investment.

What I'd like to know, is if anyone knows of good creation vs evolution experiments. I've started writing my own, to show how things like the big bang are impossible, what a flood does, ect.

anyone have any?

[Psalms18_28]

on a show called "Crash! bang! splat!", they took a sponge, cut out a shape, and buried it under a bucket of sand...then they mixed epsom salt with water, fill the bucket of sand with the salt mixture and let it evaporate... The sponge become very hard within a few days or so. They say this how a dinosaur bone become a fossil or something like that. (I can't remember exactly). our bone do absorb like a sponge...if you put a bone in vinegar, it gets very flexible.

And what does concrete made out of anyway? It become hard as a rock within few hours. most people use concrete to make footprints and fake fossil out of them.

[Anon]

This is not an experiment but I noticed last summer as I flew over the mountains out west, that from way up high they actually LOOK like they were made by a flood. You can see where the layers are formed and where the water drained from them and its just incredible.

[qwerty guy]

And what does concrete made out of anyway? It become hard as a rock within few hours. most people use concrete to make footprints and fake fossil out of them.

Concrete is made of stone, sand, and portland. Portland naturally is pumis, volcano rock smashed to a powder. Manufactured, it's burn limestone ash. When it gets wet, it sort of coats what ever else is in it, like sand.. and as it "cures) it starts to shrink, thus compressing the sand/stone on itself. Nothing like fossils. (guess what I do for a living)

You can see where the layers are formed and where the water drained from them and its just incredible.

A good biblical view of the world, but argued by secular athiests. It's been pointed out though that the highest part of the grand canon, is higher then where the river enters. This means for it to have been formed by a river over millions of years, that river would of had to run uphill for a very very long time. What seems obvious to us, becomes complicated when people don't want to accept there is a God that they must listen too.

It's why I want experiments. I like the sponge one, I will try it. I know how to fossilize something but it takes about a year. Experiments are not only good for showing plain logic, but are EXCELLENT for getting kids interested.

[Anon]

I don't know of any offhand but look online, there are experiments making crystals and stuff...

For instance geodes have crystals inside which had to have been formed from water...how did the water get there... you can do the experiments with sugar or salt to make crystals on a string, if you are doing this for kids.

Was it not the volcano Paricutin that was formed over only a few weeks?

My dad is a self made geologist and teaches Creation classes at times, I wonder if he would know of any...

[qwerty guy]

I've done the crystals thing before.. if anyone is interested:

What is needed:
A cup able to withstand high heat
Lots of salt
a pencil, and a piece of string.

Put enough water to overflow the cup in a pot and bring it to a boil. While it's boiling, add salt while stirring until the salt stops disappearing into the water (salt crystals just sit on bottom).

Pour this salt saturated water into the cup until the cup is nearly full. Tie the string to the pencil, and push the string down into the water until it's touching the bottom. Use the pencil across the top of the glass to hold the string erect.

Place somewhere that it can sit undisturbed. As the water evaporates, salt crystals will form. Even after the water is gone, if left alone, the crystals will continue to grow.

I've actually gotten the crystals to grow up the string, across the pencil, down the glass, and start forming on the counter top.

OFF SHOOT EXPERIMENT: What you're doing by boiling water, adding salt until no more can be added, and letting it cool down, is "super saturating" the water. The warmer the water is, the more salt it can hold. For example, and this is not the real measurements just an example: 1 cup of water at 60 degrees, can hold 1 tsp of salt. The same cup of water, at 90 degrees, can hold 2 tsp of salt.

If you add all the salt you can to boiling water, and it cools down, it's now holding more salt then it's able too. It can do this because as the atoms cool and slow, getting closer, it locks in the salt atoms.

Create super saturated salt water with the boiling method: Put in a glass cup so you can see it. Allow it too cool down to room temperature. Now take about 3 grains of salt... that's all.. 1 will work but it usually will stick to your hand. Drop a grain or 2 of salt into the now cooled water, and before it can hit bottom there will be thousands. You can tap the glass to do the same thing. What happens is by introducing the grain of salt or a vibration, the water molecules get knocked around enough to break the salt free. Thus by adding 1 grain of salt, the bottom of the cup ends up full of them.

(sugar works for both of these)