God Loves Them

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https://www.facebook.com/share/v/4ch8cabJ4di6evzY/?mibextid=oFDknk                                      Isn't someone you "hate", an "enemy"?  Jesus told us to "love your enemies" that we may be the "children of your Father".  So if we obey that, and love our enemies as our Father does His, even WE can be more holy than RC Sproul's false God. Cuz RC Sproul says his god don't live his enemies. I guess he knows better now. But knows too late.

Edited March 7 by heartstrings

[Jerry]

Right. Also, Biblical live is not an emotion - it is doing right to our enemies even if we don’t feel like it. Love is obeying God towards them. I may not feel any warm emotions towards them, but I won’t seek to do them harm, won’t lie to them, steal from them, think or act inappropriately sexually towards them, if they are an authority over me I will obey and respect them - plus, I will do good to them in the way God expects me to: witnessing, helping them according to God’s will, not slandering them or gossiping about them or to them, etc. Basically, obeying God in all my actions and dealings towards them.

[Behold]

ITS possible that the confusion about "loving your enemies" and "doing good to those who despitefully use you"....  regarding  person, a Christian, who is trying to connect the dots when facing this in REAL LIFE.. is...

While its True that God loves everyone, what isn't the case, is God Tolerating everything.

And so, the Christian is to do the same... We are to LOVE, in deed and not just in word...... but that is not the same as TOLERATE.

For example, we love the confused young mother who has paid an abortionist to forever silence  a baby's heartbeat in her womb, but we are not to Tolerate it by accepting it.

For example, we are to love a person who has a un-natural sexual lifestyle, but we are not to be accepting of it.

We are not to accept the world system.  As how can we, the born again, accept it when God has told us to be in it but '"not OF it'.""

Edited March 7 by Behold

[Jerry]

Right, loving God means being separate from sin and holy in our own lives. Loving others means we face them with their sin (which would include dealing with the 10 commandments they have broken when we witness to them).

Worldly and watered-down “Christianity” teaches that we are to accept everything about the lost or our fellow Christians because of God’s grace - yet grace teaches us to turn from sin AND gives us the power to overcome sin in our lives.

Jude 1:4
For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

Titus 2:11-14
For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.

Leviticus 19:17-18
Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.
Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.

That verse above states that true love means we deal with sin, not overlook it. (Yes, there are other passages about putting away and covering sin in the lives of those who have repented of them. For example, Proverbs 10:12 and 17:9.)

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20 hours ago, Jerry said:

Right. Also, Biblical live is not an emotion - it is doing right to our enemies even if we don’t feel like it. Love is obeying God towards them. I may not feel any warm emotions towards them, but I won’t seek to do them harm, won’t lie to them, steal from them, think or act inappropriately sexually towards them, if they are an authority over me I will obey and respect them - plus, I will do good to them in the way God expects me to: witnessing, helping them according to God’s will, not slandering them or gossiping about them or to them, etc. Basically, obeying God in all my actions and dealings towards them.

Biblical love is in the heart. You either love somebody or hate them before any action takes place. For example, the verse you quoted.....Leviticus 19:17 Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart:..............Then comes the action...... "thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him."

Here's another. When Jesus was talking with the "rich young ruler" He was talking with a lost man, a sinner, a man trusting in his riches and his own righteousness. But the Bible says "Then Jesus beholding him loved him, .............(Then came the action) and said unto him, One thing thou lackest: go thy way, sell whatsoever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, take up the cross, and follow me." That looks to me like God was loving this young lost man in His heart before God took action. So, again. You can call that "emotion" or whatever but Love goes alot deeper than just "doing right by our enemies". Sure, you can do that. You can do good things for people all day long for reasons other than love. But Love is something "in the heart" just like "hate" is. So, if Jesus "loved" the rich young ruler as He "beheld" Him, how many more lost sinners does He love?

The point of the post was that Calvinists, like RC Sproul, teach that God hates sinners, and they try to make it sound reasonable.. But this is part of their real agenda; to push their doctrine that God predetermined those he hates to go to Hell for his glory. 

[Behold]

A Christian is to Love what God loves.

A Christian is to not tolerate, what God does not tolerate.

The World system, is exactly the opposite.