Does the Moral Character of Public Officials Matter?

[Dr. Robert S. Morley]

41 minutes ago, PastorMatt said:

Maybe I misunderstood you. When you said Hitler or abortion it seem to me that it implied the choice was to have Hitler being born or not (that is why my comment said what it said). One you mentioned was a person and the other was an action, so I naturally put them together.  

I do not believe any one is being abusive here, but rather just a personality conflict. 

Perhaps you misread. No one said anything about being abusive. Tony accused me of being obtuse.

[Dr. Robert S. Morley]

47 minutes ago, BrotherTony said:

I wasn't trying to be abusive to anyone. I was just pointing out that the Dr wasn't using good reasoning by adding hypotheticals to the conversation, especially by bringing a dead dictator into the conversation.

Wisdom forsees the ability of unchecked power to quickly corrupt. I would rather discuss the hypothetical and be prepared than be under a dictator and find it's too late.

Edited May 20, 2023 by Dr. Robert S. Morley

[Pastor Matt]

My reply still applies as things seem to be getting to a point of verbal abuse. 

To all: stick to discussions and leave personal attacks out. No need for that in Christianity

[Dr. Robert S. Morley]

58 minutes ago, PastorMatt said:

My reply still applies as things seem to be getting to a point of verbal abuse. 

You initially said, "I do not believe any one is being abusive here, but rather just a personality conflict."

Edited May 20, 2023 by Dr. Robert S. Morley

[Pastor Matt]

20 minutes ago, Dr. Robert S. Morley said:

You initially said, "I do not believe any one is being abusive here, but rather just a personality conflict."

Thank you, I'm well aware of what initially said as it is written publicly. It still stands. 

Let's get on with the topic at hand rather than pick on semantics. 

[Dr. Robert S. Morley]

8 minutes ago, PastorMatt said:

Thank you, I'm well aware of what initially said as it is written publicly. It still stands. 

Let's get on with the topic at hand rather than pick on semantics. 

Which do you want to retract as you advise us on our behavior? Because you tell me one thing and then the group another. 

[Pastor Matt]

2 minutes ago, Dr. Robert S. Morley said:

Which do you want to retract as you advise us on our behavior? Because you tell me one thing and then the group another. 

Please stop and re-read. I specifically said "to all".

Please get back to the topic at hand.

[Dr. Robert S. Morley]

2 hours ago, Joe Chandler said:

Let's discuss the moral character of Biden.

Yes, we should. We should weigh all officials by biblical standards, like those the SBC put forward.

2 hours ago, Joe Chandler said:

Maybe we could remove all the deprecatory Psalms from the Bible.  

I don't understand why you said this, Joe.

[Dr. Robert S. Morley]

19 minutes ago, PastorMatt said:

Please stop and re-read. I specifically said "to all".

Please get back to the topic at hand.

You responded to me, saying to Tony, "You're the one being obtuse," with, "I do not believe any one is being abusive here, but rather just a personality conflict."

I then pointed out that the word abuse hadn't been used to which you responded, "My reply still applies as things seem to be getting to a point of verbal abuse. 

To all: stick to discussions and leave personal attacks out. No need for that in Christianity."

I agree with your intention, but can you please acknowledge that your initial advice to me differs from your final advice. "I do not believe any one is being abusive here" does not correlate with "things seem to be getting to a point of verbal abuse. 

To all: stick to discussions and leave personal attacks out. No need for that in Christianity."

Edited May 20, 2023 by Dr. Robert S. Morley

[Pastor Matt]

Can we please stop with these semantics and stick to topic at hand? PM are meant for these exact situations. 

I asked nicely 3 times and it been ignored each time.

[Joe Chandler]

16 minutes ago, Dr. Robert S. Morley said:

Yes, we should. We should weigh all officials by biblical standards, like those the SBC put forward.

I don't understand why you said this, Joe.

I said this because you responded to Tony that Psalm 109:8 was an horrible thing to pray. I was arguing to the extreme for illustrative purposes.

[Dr. Robert S. Morley]

On 5/20/2023 at 9:22 PM, Joe Chandler said:

I said this because you responded to Tony that Psalm 109:8 was an horrible thing to pray. I was arguing to the extreme for illustrative purposes.

Imprecatory psalms, like Psalm 109, which deal with vengeance rather than forgiveness, require very careful application. "Let his days be few; and let another take his office" (Psalm 109:8) calls for judgment through untimely death and was applied to Judas.