Coming To America

[John81]

Will there be a Christian nation from this?

 

Almost certainly at some point a new Mexican nation.

 

How many others, and of what make-up?

 

25 Percent of Americans Want Their State to Secede

 

For the past few weeks, as Scotland debated the wisdom of independence, Reuters has been asking Americans how they would feel about declaring independence today, not from the United Kingdom, but from the mother country they left England to create. The exact wording of the question was, "Do you support or oppose the idea of your state peacefully withdrawing from the United States of America and the federal government?"

It was hard to imagine many people would support secession. Forget the fact that the cautionary lesson of the Civil War is top of mind for many people as we commemorate its 150th anniversary; just in terms of dollars and cents, who in their right minds would give up all the money they've already paid into the Social Security and Medicare systems? Besides, most states get more back from the federal government than they put in.

Then the results came in. You can see them for yourself here, and you can filter them any way you want—by age, region, income, party affiliation, etc. Any way you slice it, the data are startlingly clear: Almost a quarter (24 percent) of those surveyed said they were strongly or provisionally inclined to leave the United States. And take their states with them. Given the polling sample—about 8,600 people so far—the online survey's credibility interval (which is digital for "margin of error") was only 1.2 percentage points, so there is no question that that is what they said.

Secession got more support from Republicans than Democrats, more from right- than left-leaning independents, more from younger than older people, more from lower- than higher-income brackets, more from high school than college grads. But there was a surprising amount of support in every group and region, especially the Rocky Mountain states, the Southwest and the old Confederacy, but also in places like Illinois and Kansas. And of the people who said they identified with the Tea Party, supporters of secession were actually in the majority, with 53 percent.

 

More:

http://www.charismanews.com/opinion/45469-25-percent-of-americans-want-their-state-to-secede

[ThePilgrim]

It would come out about like it did in the Scotland voting.  The politicians and the MSM would put out all the downside of seceding, like all the money it will eventually cost you (the biggest losses being pensions and social security, like you said).  A vote for such a thing would not draw 10% in this country.  To many of us on the dole, including me and others on social security.  

 

Now myself, if seceding from the union would really change things back to a constitutional  basis I would vote for secession . . . . I am somewhat tired of living anyway, so starving to death(though it could be rather uncomfortable and even painful) I think I could take for a good cause.  However living in Oregon I think if a secession happened, Oregon would become The Socialist Republic of Oregon, with Salem becoming Moscow on the Willamette. . . . not enough conservatives here to change anything for the better.

 

Through with my musings.......

[John81]

Whenever such comes up in America it likely won't come down to a vote, unless it's in the States that become Mexican dominated. What then? How could liberals or the media go against that since to an extent, that's a dream come true for most of them?

 

Other than Mexican dominates states, secession in America is far more likely to come through violence. If (when?) America implodes due to economic collapse or other circumstance, it's prOBable many States choose to go their own way. Some areas will have no choice but to fend for themselves as various racial, ethnic and religious groups seize the opportunity to grab power for themselves. America may well one day descend into a real civil war which will see the redrawing of not only the map of America, but of many states as well.