Members Thinking Posted May 2 Members Share Posted May 2 John 17:3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BrotherTony Posted May 3 Members Share Posted May 3 God the Father God the Son God the Holy Spirit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Thinking Posted May 3 Author Members Share Posted May 3 9 hours ago, BrotherTony said: God the Father God the Son God the Holy Spirit That's NOT what Jesus said.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Thinking Posted May 3 Author Members Share Posted May 3 Jesus said he was TAUGHT by God, SENT by Him, was guaranteed he would be RESURRECETED by Him, and given all POWER by Him. Not 'Them'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BrotherTony Posted May 3 Members Share Posted May 3 1 hour ago, Thinking said: That's NOT what Jesus said.... Of course it is...God the Father gave all authority to Jesus Christ, God the Son, (Jesus said that he and the Father were one and that all who saw the Son had seen the Father) and that all should be drawn to Christ through the convicting power of God the Holy Spirit. You truly need to learn how to rightly divide the Word of God. Jerry 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Napsterdad Posted May 3 Members Share Posted May 3 John 1:1-3 & 14 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. Genesis 1:1 etc. In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth... The Hebrew used for God throughout the Genesis creation account is “Elohiym”, which is plural. This speaks of the trinity, God in three parts: Father, Son, Holy Spirit. The Genesis account of creation is clear that God created all things: “And God said”. John 1 is clear; Jesus created all things. God and Jesus are one. Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. Again the plural Elohiym saying Let us (plural) make man in our (plural) image, after our (plural) likeness. Man made in the image of God; soul, body and spirit. Three parts, one being. 1 John 5:5-8 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God? 6 This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth. 7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one. John 10:30 & 38 I and my Father are one. 38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Thinking Posted May 3 Author Members Share Posted May 3 1 hour ago, BrotherTony said: Of course it is...God the Father gave all authority to Jesus Christ, God the Son, (Jesus said that he and the Father were one and that all who saw the Son had seen the Father) and that all should be drawn to Christ through the convicting power of God the Holy Spirit. You truly need to learn how to rightly divide the Word of God. I am not going to divide the word of God. I take it as it IS. ONLY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BrotherTony Posted May 3 Members Share Posted May 3 The Bible itself tells us to "rightly divide" the Word of God. You're continuing to show your ignorance of the things of God. That IS taking the Bible itself as it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Thinking Posted May 3 Author Members Share Posted May 3 He doesn't understand what "ONLY" means... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BrotherTony Posted May 3 Members Share Posted May 3 23 minutes ago, Thinking said: He doesn't understand what "ONLY" means... Is God the Father not a part of the ONLY true God? Yes, he is. It's not that hard to understand. You might want to go back to your Jehovah's Witnesses friends for a cheering section. You won't get one here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Thinking Posted May 3 Author Members Share Posted May 3 9 minutes ago, BrotherTony said: Is God the Father not a part of the ONLY true God? Yes, he is. It's not that hard to understand. You might want to go back to your Jehovah's Witnesses friends for a cheering section. You won't get one here. Then you have Jesus saying " WE are the only the God". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BrotherTony Posted May 3 Members Share Posted May 3 5 minutes ago, Thinking said: Then you have Jesus saying " WE are the only the God". Jesus said "I and the Father are one." When asked during his trial if he was the Son of God, he said "I AM."..the name of God. In Genesis 1 God the Father said Let US make man in OUR image." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Thinking Posted May 3 Author Members Share Posted May 3 14 minutes ago, BrotherTony said: Jesus said "I and the Father are one." When asked during his trial if he was the Son of God, he said "I AM."..the name of God. In Genesis 1 God the Father said Let US make man in OUR image." Were the Apostles part of the Trinity? 17:11- And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BrotherTony Posted May 3 Members Share Posted May 3 10 minutes ago, Thinking said: Were the Apostles part of the Trinity? 17:11- And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are. Christ, in this particular passage is telling his followers that they are of one purpose. Again, context, content, and comprehension. Christ NEVER claimed that the apostles were a part of the Godhead. I can't believe that you are intentionally that obtuse. Jerry 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Thinking Posted May 3 Author Members Share Posted May 3 1 minute ago, BrotherTony said: Christ, in this particular passage is telling his followers that they are of one purpose. Again, context, content, and comprehension. Christ NEVER claimed that the apostles were a part of the Godhead. I can't believe that you are intentionally that obtuse. Just THINKING! You quoted Jesus when he said the SAME THING about the Apostles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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