god John- testimony to God! (Follow along at Biblegateway.com)

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3:33- He that hath received his testimony hath set to his seal that God is true. 34- For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him. 35- The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand. 36- He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

Again, we see that they are two separate persons. 

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John 4:23- But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. ( Not the GhostGod, nor a SonGod)

24- God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

(God is a spirit, as Jesus was previously)

4:17- But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work. 18- Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.

GASP! Were they RIGHT???

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NOPE!

4:19- Then answered Jesus and said unto them, "Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise. 20- For the Father loveth the Son, and sheweth him all things that himself doeth: and he will shew him greater works than these, that ye may marvel."

Again, we see that they are two separate persons. 

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21-For as the Father raiseth up the dead, and quickeneth them; even so the Son quickeneth whom he will.

22-For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:

23- That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.

No mention of the GhostGod.

Again, we see that they are two separate persons.

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5:26- For as the Father hath life in Himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;

27- And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man.

God didn't give authority to THEMSELVES!

5:30- I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.

31- If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true.

32-There is another that beareth witness of me; and I know that the witness which he witnesseth of me is true.

Yet again, we see that they are two separate persons.

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5:36- But I have greater witness than that of John: for the works which the Father hath given me to finish, the same works that I do, bear witness of me, that the Father hath sent me. 37- And the Father Himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.

Yet again, we see that they are two separate persons.

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5:44-How can ye believe, which receive honour one of another, and seek not the honour that cometh from God only?

John 6:38- For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of Him that sent me.

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6:44- No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

God did not send one of Themselves. He did His only-begotten son.

 

 

Again, he repeats himself- 6:46- Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father.

So, no- when Jesus said "I and the Father are one"- he wasn't talking about that being literal.

[Silverhair]

8 minutes ago, Thinking said:

6:44- No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

God did not send one of Themselves. He did His only-begotten son.

 

 

Again, he repeats himself- 6:46- Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father.

So, no- when Jesus said "I and the Father are one"- he wasn't talking about that being literal.

Odd that you would choose that label "thinking" since you do not seem to do much of it.

Just curious, since you do not believe what the bible says re the Trinity. And Christians hold to the Trinity I have to conclude you are not a Christian or at best a pseudo christian.

So why do you bother coming on a Christian board. Is it just to spread your false religion? Since what I have seen of your comments it adds nothing to the study of scripture it seems best to just put you on ignore.

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Just now, Silverhair said:

Just curious, since you do not believe what the bible says re the Trinity. And Christians hold to the Trinity I have to conclude you are not a Christian or at best a pseudo christian.

So why do you bother coming on a Christian board. Is it just to spread your false religion? Since what I have seen of your comments it adds nothing to the study of scripture it seems best to just put you on ignore.

I have only quoted what the Bible said about Jesus; if any reject it, THEY are the ones you're talking about.

You do not accept what John is telling us about JESUS?

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John 8:16- And yet if I judge, my judgment is true: for I am not alone, but I and the Father that sent me.

17- It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true.

18- I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me.

 

Jesus own words that they were two separate persons. 

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8:24-I have many things to say and to judge of you: but He that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of Him.

27- They understood not that he spake to them of the Father.

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8:28- Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things. 29-And He that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please Him.

Who can teach God?

 

8:42- Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.

God sent Jesus, not Themselves!

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8:45- And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.

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John 8:58- Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. ("I existed")

"ego eimi" ( I was, existed, am, etc) was a very common phrase, having no connection with the symbolic name used only once by Jehovah- it is closer to "I will Prove to Be".