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  1. I have only quoted what the Bible said about Jesus; if any reject it, THEY are the ones you're talking about. You do not accept what John is telling us about JESUS?
  2. 6:44- No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. God did not send one of Themselves. He did His only-begotten son. Again, he repeats himself- 6:46- Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father. So, no- when Jesus said "I and the Father are one"- he wasn't talking about that being literal.
  3. 5:44-How can ye believe, which receive honour one of another, and seek not the honour that cometh from God only? John 6:38- For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of Him that sent me.
  4. 5:36- But I have greater witness than that of John: for the works which the Father hath given me to finish, the same works that I do, bear witness of me, that the Father hath sent me. 37- And the Father Himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape. Yet again, we see that they are two separate persons.
  5. 5:26- For as the Father hath life in Himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself; 27- And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man. God didn't give authority to THEMSELVES! 5:30- I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me. 31- If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true. 32-There is another that beareth witness of me; and I know that the witness which he witnesseth of me is true. Yet again, we see that they are two separate persons.
  6. 21-For as the Father raiseth up the dead, and quickeneth them; even so the Son quickeneth whom he will. 22-For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: 23- That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him. No mention of the GhostGod. Again, we see that they are two separate persons.
  7. NOPE! 4:19- Then answered Jesus and said unto them, "Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise. 20- For the Father loveth the Son, and sheweth him all things that himself doeth: and he will shew him greater works than these, that ye may marvel." Again, we see that they are two separate persons.
  8. John 4:23- But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. ( Not the GhostGod, nor a SonGod) 24- God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. (God is a spirit, as Jesus was previously) 4:17- But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work. 18- Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God. GASP! Were they RIGHT???
  9. 3:33- He that hath received his testimony hath set to his seal that God is true. 34- For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him. 35- The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand. 36- He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him. Again, we see that they are two separate persons.
  10. You can't goad me into doing the research you would reject anyways. But I admire your zeal!
  11. Now his famous words misconstrued at~ John 3:16- For God so loved the world, that He gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17- For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18- He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. Two separate persons. NOT- " God so loved the world that They came Themselves..."
  12. Jesus first miracle was creating wine at the marriage festival. 2:10- And saith unto him, Every man at the beginning doth set forth good wine; and when men have well drunk, then that which is worse: but thou hast kept the good wine until now. And the scripture used by others to show he's God~ 2:19- Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. But, again, it is taken to of context:
  13. Do the research- I'm NOT going to do it FOR you.
  14. Now that's all from the 1st Chapter identifying who the "theos" was. Did I miss anything?
  15. 33-And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost. IS there such thing as "Ghosts"? Did this GhostGod descend on GodJesus? 34- And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God. (Not "God-the-Son"- the direct opposite)
  16. 14- And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. Was God an only begotten? 18- No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared Him. "HIM"! 29- The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world. Is the Trinity a lamb?
  17. I've yet to hear one verse from you stating this Church Dogma. The KJV DOES use the word "Godhead", one, in error.
  18. So, God did not make all things thru His son?
  19. Neither was Jesus. "Your only purpose here is to disrupt, and moderators have been notified of this." By focusing on the Bible, instead of Theology?
  20. 3- All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4- In him was life; and the life was the light of men.5- And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. Confirmed at Heb 1! Heb 1:1- God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, 2- Hath in these last days spoken unto us by His son, whom He hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also He made the worlds; 3- Who being the brightness of His glory, and the express image of His person, and upholding all things by the word of His power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high! (Why did the KJV remove the caps referring to God?)
  21. Just THINKING! You quoted Jesus when he said the SAME THING about the Apostles.
  22. So did God sent another God. Or one of Themselves?
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