Members heartstrings Posted October 22, 2009 Members Share Posted October 22, 2009 One of the most brilliant minds, if not THE most brilliant, in modern history, wrote these words... "This most beautiful System of the Sun, Planets and Comets, could only proceed from the counsel and dominion of an intelligent and powerful being ... He is Eternal and Infinite, Omnipotent and Omniscient; that is, his duration reaches from Eternity to Eternity; his presence from Infinity to Infinity; he governs all things, and knows all things that are or can be done." ~ Sir Issac Newton, General Scholium/Principia*(1729) Vol. 2, pp. 388-90 " The extraordinary mind and works of Sir Isaac Newton are, no doubt. part of the fullfillment of Daniel's prophecy: "But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased." -Daniel 12:4 Isaac Newton, regarding this Biblical prophecy: "Personally, I cannot but believe these words concerning the end of the times. One sign of the end will be a remarkable increase in methods of getting about. Men will travel from country to country in an unprecedented manner. There may be some inventions which will enable people to travel much more quickly than they do now." But Voltaire said, about Newton......... "See what a fool Christianity makes of an otherwise brilliant man. Here a scientist like Newton actually writes that men may travel at the rate of fifteen or twenty miles an hour. Has he forgotten that if a man would travel at the rate of fifteen miles an hour, he would be suffocated? His heart would stand still." Doesn't the Space shuttle travel at about 17 THOUSAND miles per hour? And how much knowledge does it take to create something like the space shuttle? Desktop computers? The internet? So who was the fool? **Disclaimer** Please verify these quotes for accuracy, as I copied and pasted them from the internet. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Madeline Posted October 22, 2009 Members Share Posted October 22, 2009 For such a "brilliant" man...I find it ironic how Newton as a mathematician can't use simple arithmetics to count to 3 (The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit). Newton denied the Trinity and died an Arianist. Spending so much time trying to find "hidden" messages in the bible...he failed to see such clear teachings as the Triune nature of God. Love, Madeline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members futurehope Posted October 23, 2009 Members Share Posted October 23, 2009 For such a "brilliant" man...I find it ironic how Newton as a mathematician can't use simple arithmetics to count to 3 (The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit). Newton denied the Trinity and died an Arianist. Spending so much time trying to find "hidden" messages in the bible...he failed to see such clear teachings as the Triune nature of God. Love, Madeline My guess would be that he also supported the gap theory like other "brilliant minds" I know of. Most brilliant mind in history was Christ - unless of course you deny Him as either a man or as God, then you could go with Solomon - he had enough women around to take care of everything so he wouldn't have to see a bunch of ugly men or have to do anything. Yes, that was a joke (the first part was serious). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Invicta Posted October 24, 2009 Members Share Posted October 24, 2009 My guess would be that he also supported the gap theory like other "brilliant minds" I know of. Which gap theory would that be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members trc123 Posted October 24, 2009 Members Share Posted October 24, 2009 While Sir Isaac Newton studied (mostly) Daniel and Revelation; it was my understanding that he was more into mysticism than he was a Christian. But I could be thinking of someone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Invicta Posted October 24, 2009 Members Share Posted October 24, 2009 My guess would be that he also supported the gap theory like other "brilliant minds" I know of. Most brilliant mind in history was Christ - unless of course you deny Him as either a man or as God, then you could go with Solomon - he had enough women around to take care of everything so he wouldn't have to see a bunch of ugly men or have to do anything. Yes, that was a joke (the first part was serious). Yes, But------ 700 Mothers in law!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members futurehope Posted October 25, 2009 Members Share Posted October 25, 2009 Which gap theory would that be? The one that is unfounded both biblically and scientifically.....yet many try to attach it to creation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members futurehope Posted October 25, 2009 Members Share Posted October 25, 2009 Yes, But------ 700 Mothers in law!!!! ????????????????????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members heartstrings Posted October 26, 2009 Author Members Share Posted October 26, 2009 My guess would be that he also supported the gap theory like other "brilliant minds" I know of. Most brilliant mind in history was Christ - unless of course you deny Him as either a man or as God, then you could go with Solomon - he had enough women around to take care of everything so he wouldn't have to see a bunch of ugly men or have to do anything. Yes, that was a joke (the first part was serious). The point of this thread, was that Isaac Newton, a brilliant man of science, clearly gave glory to God in some of his scientific works. How many scientists do that today? I'm sure he was off in some of his theology; just like some of us Baptists are. But the fact is; the great scientist acknowledged God while the wicked ignorant, arrogant philospher (Voltaire) mocked. And mocking is VERY unwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jerry Posted October 26, 2009 Members Share Posted October 26, 2009 I understand what you are saying, but if a scientist rejects the knowledge of the true God, is he really giving "glory to God"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members heartstrings Posted October 26, 2009 Author Members Share Posted October 26, 2009 Did he deny the virgin birth? The deity of Christ? The death, burial and resurrection? Did he deny the Lord Jesus Christ as the only way? If so then, yeah, I agree with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jerry Posted October 26, 2009 Members Share Posted October 26, 2009 The Trinity and the Deity of Christ are two of the fundamentals of the faith - if he did not believe in either, he was unsaved and just as lost as the pagan in darkest Africa or an apostate. Being religious will not save anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators HappyChristian Posted October 26, 2009 Administrators Share Posted October 26, 2009 The Trinity and the Deity of Christ are two of the fundamentals of the faith - if he did not believe in either, he was unsaved and just as lost as the pagan in darkest Africa or an apostate. Being religious will not save anyone. I agree with all of that - I really do. But can't the heathen still point to God's glory? No, he couldn't tell someone how to be saved, but he sure did make the point that God was behind creation. KWIM? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members heartstrings Posted October 26, 2009 Author Members Share Posted October 26, 2009 The Trinity and the Deity of Christ are two of the fundamentals of the faith - if he did not believe in either, he was unsaved and just as lost as the pagan in darkest Africa or an apostate. Being religious will not save anyone. So he did deny the diety of Christ? Can you point me to one of his documents in which he says this? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jerry Posted October 26, 2009 Members Share Posted October 26, 2009 I have read statements regarding his beliefs (including one or more short biographical accounts of his achievements and beliefs), and he did not believe in the Trinity; therefore he did not believe in the deity of Christ. Can't have Christ being God and at the same time there not being more than one person in the Godhead. A brand new believer may not be able to explain the Trinity and have it worked out completely in his head - but you can't knowingly deny the Trinity and be saved. If you do not believe that belief in the fundamentals of the faith are essential to salvation, then you are not a fundamental Christian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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