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      I Corinthians 11:17-34: "Now in this that I declare unto you I praise you not, that ye come together not for the better, but for the worse. For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it. For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you. When ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat the Lord's Supper. For in eating every one taketh before other his own supper: and one is hungry, and another is drunken. What? have ye not houses to eat and to drink in? or despise ye the church of God, and shame them that have not? What shall I say to you? shall I praise you in this? I praise you not. For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread: And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me. For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do show the Lord's death till he come. Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord. But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup. For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body. For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep. For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged. But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world. Wherefore, my brethren, when ye come together to eat, tarry one for another. And if any man hunger, let him eat at home; that ye come not together unto condemnation. And the rest will I set in order when I come."

      INTRODUCTION

      Historic Baptists, true Baptists, have believed in and still believe in closed communion. Baptists impose upon themselves the same restrictions that they impose on others concerning the Lord’s Supper. Baptists have always insisted that it is the Lord’s Table, not theirs; and He alone has the right to say who shall sit at His table. No amount of so called brotherly love, or ecumenical spirit, should cause us to invite to His table those who have not complied with the requirements laid down plainly in His inspired Word. With respect to Bible doctrines we must always use the scripture as our guide and practice. For Baptists, two of the most important doctrines are Baptism and The Lord’s Supper. These are the only two doctrines we recognize as Church Ordinances. The Bible is very clear in teaching how these doctrines are to be practiced and by whom.

      We only have two ordinances that we must never compromise or we risk our very existence, they are Baptism and The Lord’s Supper.

      The moment we deviate from the precise method God has prescribed we have started down the slippery slope of error. True Baptists have held fast to the original doctrine of The Lord’s Supper from the time of Christ and the Apostles.

      Unfortunately, in this day of what the Bible describes as the age of luke warmness, Baptists are becoming careless in regard to strictly following the pattern laid out for us in Scripture. Many of our Bible colleges are graduating otherwise sincere, Godly and dedicated pastors and teachers who have not been taught the very strict, biblical requirements that surround the Lord’s Supper. Any Bible college that neglects to teach its students the differences surrounding Closed Communion, Close Communion and Open Communion is not simply short changing its students; it is also not equipping their students to carry on sound Bible traditions. The result is men of God and churches that fall into error. And as we will see, this is serious error.

      Should we as Baptists ignore the restrictions made by our Lord and Master? NO! When we hold to the restrictions placed upon the Lord’s Supper by our Master, we are defending the "faith which was once delivered to the saints" Jude 3.

      The Lord’s Supper is rigidly restricted and I will show this in the following facts:

      IT IS RESTRICTED AS TO PLACE

      A. I Corinthians 11:18 says, "When ye come together in the church." This does not mean the church building; they had none. In other words, when the church assembles. The supper is to be observed by the church, in church capacity. Again this does not mean the church house. Ekklesia, the Greek word for church, means assembly. "When ye come together in the church," is when the church assembles.

      B. When we say church we mean an assembly of properly baptized believers. Acts 2:41-42: "Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls. And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers."

      The church is made up of saved people who are baptized by immersion. In the Bible, belief precedes baptism. That’s the Bible way.

      Acts 8:12-13, "But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women. Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized, he continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles and signs which were done."

      When we say properly baptized, we mean immersed. No unbeliever should take the Lord’s supper, and no non-immersed believer should take the supper. Those who are sprinkled are not baptized and cannot receive the supper. The Greek word for baptize is baptizo, and it always means to immerse.

      "In every case where communion is referred to, or where it may possibly have been administered, the believers had been baptized Acts 2:42; 8:12; 8:38; 10:47; 6:14-15; 18:8; 20:7. Baptism comes before communion, just as repentance and faith precede baptism".

      C. The Lord’s Supper is for baptized believers in church capacity: "When ye come together in the church," again not a building, but the assembly of the properly baptized believers.

      D. The fact that the Lord’s Supper is a church ordinance, to be observed in church capacity, is pointed out by the fact that it is for those who have been immersed and added to the fellowship of the church.

      E. The Lord’s Supper is never spoken of in connection with individuals. When it is referred to, it is only referred to in reference to baptized believers in local church capacity I Cor. 11:20-26).

      I want to quote Dr. W.W. Hamilton,

      "The individual administration of the ordinance has no Bible warrant and is a relic of Romanism. The Lord’s Supper is a church ordinance, and anything which goes beyond or comes short of this fails for want of scriptural example or command".

      “The practice of taking a little communion kit to hospitals, nursing homes, etc. is unscriptural and does not follow the scriptural example.”

      IT IS RESTRICTED TO A UNITED CHURCH

      A. The Bible in I Cor. 11:18 is very strong in condemning divisions around the Lord’s table. For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it.
      19 For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.
      20 When ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat the Lord's supper.

      There were no less than four divisions in the Corinthian church.
      I Cor. 1:12: "Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ."

      Because of these divisions, it was impossible for them to scripturally eat the Lord’s Supper. Division in the local church is reason to hold off observing the Lord’s Supper. But there are also other reasons to forego taking the Lord’s Supper. If there is gross sin in the membership we do not take it. Here is scriptural evidence for this: 1Co 5:7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our Passover is sacrificed for us:
      8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth. 9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:
      10 Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. 11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

      B. At this point, I want to ask these questions: Are there not doctrinal divisions among the many denominations? Is it not our doctrinal differences that cause us to be separate religious bodies?

      IT IS RESTRICTED BY DOCTRINE

      A. Those in the early church at Jerusalem who partook "continued stedfastly in the apostles’ doctrine" Acts 2:42. And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.

      B. Those that do not hold to apostolic truth are not to partake. This means there is to be discipline in the local body. How can you discipline those who do not belong to the local body? You can’t. The clear command of scripture is to withdraw fellowship from those who are not doctrinally sound.

      II Thes 3:6: "Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us."
      Rom. 16:17: "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them."
      To commune together means to have the same doctrine.
      II Thes. 2:15: "Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle."
      II John 10-11: "If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds."

      C. Some Baptists in our day have watered down this doctrine by practicing what they call “Close Communion.” By this they mean that they believe that members of another Baptist church may take communion with us because they are of the same beliefs. Once again, this is unscriptural.

      The welcome to the Lord's Table should not be extended beyond the discipline of the local church. When we take the Lord’s Supper there is supposed to be no gross sin among us and no divisions among us. We have no idea of the spiritual condition of another church’s members. If there is sin or division in the case of this other church’s members, we have no way of knowing it. We cannot discipline them because they are not members of our church. This is why we practice “Closed” communion, meaning it is restricted solely to our church membership. 
      So then, in closing I would like to reiterate the three different ideas concerning the Lord’s Supper and who is to take it. 
      Closed Communion = Only members of a single local church. 
      Close Communion = Members of like faith and order may partake. 
      Open Communion = If you claim to be a Christian, or simply attending the service, you may partake. 
      It is no small thing to attempt to change that which was implemented by our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. 
      Mt. 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen. 
      Many of our Baptist churches have a real need to consider the gravity of the act of observing The Lord’s Supper. It is not a light thing that is to be taken casually or without regard to the spiritual condition of ourselves or our church.
      1Co. 11:27 Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.

       28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.

       29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.

       30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.

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I merely choose an ancient way of practicing the faith, were as you choose a more modern method.
My method of practicing the faith comes directly from Scripture. Your practice, my friend, is the more modern method. And maybe you should post all those "unbiased" historical references you claim to have about early church practices so we can all see. BTW, you need to re-read the entire stories about the "family" baptisms. You'll notice all those in the household heard the gospel and believed, then were baptized. Common sense ("reason") should tell you an infant can't understand enough to believe, therefore would not be baptized. And with that, I'm done.
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My method of practicing the faith comes directly from Scripture. Your practice, my friend, is the more modern method. And maybe you should post all those "unbiased" historical references you claim to have about early church practices so we can all see. BTW, you need to re-read the entire stories about the "family" baptisms. You'll notice all those in the household heard the gospel and believed, then were baptized. Common sense ("reason") should tell you an infant can't understand enough to believe, therefore would not be baptized. And with that, I'm done.


You were done way before this. It always get's rough when facts get in the way of what one wants to believe.
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You were done way before this. It always get's rough when facts get in the way of what one wants to believe.


Scripture supports what Mitch has stated even as it stands against your position. The facts are in the Bible and it's very sad when some prefer the traditions of men to the Word of God.
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Scripture supports what Mitch has stated even as it stands against your position. The facts are in the Bible and it's very sad when some prefer the traditions of men to the Word of God.


True, the facts are in the Bible, yet many will not accept them.
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It is that belief that our works are as filthy rags that cause people to DO NOTHING. Yet in James, we find it is "not by faith alone", we must have works. So where are the Baptist Hospitals? Some of the local baptist churches in my area think that having a car show will win souls to Christ. Yes, they even have the country band under tent for an outside service to show how much "fun" Baptists have. Another thing about Baptists is that they separate themselves from the rest of the Christian body. Isn't that a bit haughty? Our church (independent fundamental baptist), brags that they are not like those other churches, just like that Pharisee that prayed in the temple that he thanked God that he was not like that publican over there.
I'm not trying to criticize, but this is my observation and I do attend a fundamental baptist independent church.

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It is that belief that our works are as filthy rags that cause people to DO NOTHING. Yet in James, we find it is "not by faith alone", we must have works. So where are the Baptist Hospitals? Some of the local baptist churches in my area think that having a car show will win souls to Christ. Yes, they even have the country band under tent for an outside service to show how much "fun" Baptists have. Another thing about Baptists is that they separate themselves from the rest of the Christian body. Isn't that a bit haughty? Our church (independent fundamental baptist), brags that they are not like those other churches, just like that Pharisee that prayed in the temple that he thanked God that he was not like that publican over there.
I'm not trying to criticize, but this is my observation and I do attend a fundamental baptist independent church.

Donillo




Those have been persuaded that it is possible to lose their salvation don't fully understand the redemptive process. Scripture clearly teaches us that when we were dead in trespasses and sin that we were without hope but in due time Christ died for the ungodly. We need the blood of Christ to save us and to keep us from falling. For a person to lose his salvation they would have to erase what Jesus accomplished by His death, burial and resurrection. It simply is not possible. Edited by lettheredeemedsayso
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I know that I am replying to an old question.  However, I want to address the question "what is a Free Methodist".

The Free Methodists split from the United Methodists mid-1800's.  They had become liberal even back then.  

I was saved in a Free Methodist church many years ago.  When I moved, there was no Free Methodist church nearby, so we attended and became members of the Nazarene Church which has similar doctrines.  The focus is on entire sanctification and holiness.  Some take that to mean works or effort done in our flesh, but we all know the flesh will fail us.  Some in the churches I am speaking about do fall into that error; it is so easy to do.  Yet, I've been in an IFB church for 10 years and see the same thing - legalism and works so prominent.  Again, so easy to fall into that trap.  

Back to Free Methodists - they are Wesleyan in doctrine and belief.  Yes, they also believe one can lose salvation.

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I know that I am replying to an old question.  However, I want to address the question "what is a Free Methodist".

The Free Methodists split from the United Methodists mid-1800's.  They had become liberal even back then.  

I was saved in a Free Methodist church many years ago.  When I moved, there was no Free Methodist church nearby, so we attended and became members of the Nazarene Church which has similar doctrines.  The focus is on entire sanctification and holiness.  Some take that to mean works or effort done in our flesh, but we all know the flesh will fail us.  Some in the churches I am speaking about do fall into that error; it is so easy to do.  Yet, I've been in an IFB church for 10 years and see the same thing - legalism and works so prominent.  Again, so easy to fall into that trap.  

Back to Free Methodists - they are Wesleyan in doctrine and belief.  Yes, they also believe one can lose salvation.

 

A church preaching standards, & trying to get its members to hold to God's standards, is not working to be saved. Its obeying God, while living godly standards.

 

Many churches & many Christians hates standards, & refuses to live up to God's standards after having been saved them anyone living up to God's standards they claim their trying to be saved by their standards, works.

 

Legalism is trying to be saved by works. We are saved only by grace though faith, not of self, not of works, its a free gift.

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A church preaching standards, & trying to get its members to hold to God's standards, is not working to be saved. Its obeying God, while living godly standards.

A church preaching standards is not preaching the Gospel (good news), they are under the law.  The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.  If people are being fed by anointed preaching, they will live as God wants them to - that is, those who choose to.  Same thing with brow-beating about tithing - if people are being fed and operating in the Spirit - they'll give cheerfully.  Sadly, in our own IFB church, the pastor rules and spirit is stifled.  It seems pastors don't trust God to work in the members - doesn't god give all spiritual gifts to edify the body????

 

Many churches & many Christians hates standards, & refuses to live up to God's standards after having been saved them anyone living up to God's standards they claim their trying to be saved by their standards, works.

 

Legalism is trying to be saved by works. We are saved only by grace though faith, not of self, not of works, its a free gift.

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It's not true that a church preaching standards is preaching the law. The NT is full of standards for those under God's grace.  IF a church preaches that those standards are necessary for salvation, then they are preaching the law.  I totally agree that if the preaching is anointed, the listeners who obey will live as God wants them to.  Pastors who browbeat their congregants are indeed wrong, and most of their preaching is likely not anointed.  Pastors are to preach the whole counsel, and that includes standards.  However, they need to allow the Holy Spirit to work in the lives of the people.

 

I just wanted to add about Free Methodists - I'm not familiar with those in the US, but those in Northern Ireland believe in eternal security. 

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I see, you hate God's standards while abusing His wonderful grace that He offers us.

 

Remember, God will not be mocked.

 

Ga 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
Ga 6:8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
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It is that belief that our works are as filthy rags that cause people to DO NOTHING. Yet in James, we find it is "not by faith alone", we must have works. So where are the Baptist Hospitals? Some of the local baptist churches in my area think that having a car show will win souls to Christ. Yes, they even have the country band under tent for an outside service to show how much "fun" Baptists have. Another thing about Baptists is that they separate themselves from the rest of the Christian body. Isn't that a bit haughty? Our church (independent fundamental baptist), brags that they are not like those other churches, just like that Pharisee that prayed in the temple that he thanked God that he was not like that publican over there.
I'm not trying to criticize, but this is my observation and I do attend a fundamental baptist independent church.

Donillo

 

 

Trouble is that Baptists don't separate themselves from the rest of the Christian body.  In our town we have 2 Baptist churches that are in churches together.  Our church is the only one in the town which is not in Churches Together.

 

I met someone who was deacon in our church up to two years ago when he left due to the church voting down a man he wanted for pastor.  I invited him to our carol service last Sunday afternoon.  He said his church (It was Brethren, then called itself Evangelical, now a Christian Fellowship) was uniting with the Baptists that afternoon for their carol service.  

 

I don't know how their service went but our church was practically full.  We had many people who had not been before, including two individuals who had just moved into the area.  

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Hi there! I'm actually a UMC pastor and I'd be happy to share my understanding of our belief on backsliding with you. We basically believe there are 2 ways, based on Hebrews 6&10.  If someone willfully, publicly, and explicitly rejects Jesus as Savior after having confessed him, or if someone blasphemes against the Holy Spirit by declaring that the works of Jesus are the works of the evil one. I hope this answer is helpful! 

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Hi Tonya88, and welcome to this forum. I am trying to get a better understanding on the doctrines and creeds of the UMC. Why don't you tell us a little about yourself, perhaps through your testimony on how you received the Lord into your heart. Regarding your post . . . are you referring to just a Christian "backsliding", or a Christian "losing one's Salvation?" You had mentioned backsliding but not anything regarding the matter of whether a Genuine Christian can ultimately lose their Salvation. And do you believe that it's possible to blaspheme the Holy Spirit today? And if you do believe that a child of God can lose their Salvation, do you think that they can regain it?

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On February 2, 2018 at 10:10 AM, Tonya88 said:

Hi there! I'm actually a UMC pastor and I'd be happy to share my understanding of our belief on backsliding with you. We basically believe there are 2 ways, based on Hebrews 6&10.  If someone willfully, publicly, and explicitly rejects Jesus as Savior after having confessed him, or if someone blasphemes against the Holy Spirit by declaring that the works of Jesus are the works of the evil one. I hope this answer is helpful! 

Hi Tonya88,

The blasphemy against the Holy Spirit or the so-called "unpardonable sin" is the sin of rejecting in one's heart the Spirit's witness to Christ which He is making clear to the unbeliever receiving the gospel.  When the Spirit tells the unbeliever that the gospel you shared with him/her is true, they will either accept it and be saved, or else they will reject the Spirit who is testifying to their hearts through the gospel message; that rejection, calling the Spirit a liar, in effect, is unpardonable, because Jesus Christ is the only Sacrifice for sin.  The context in the gospels is one of unbelievers viewing miracles produced by the Holy Spirit and saying that the devil did them instead of the Holy Spirit.  That blasphemes the Spirit and also rejects His witness to the truth of the gospel -- and only by believing the gospel can a person be saved.  So this particular "unpardonable sin" is the sin of rejecting Christ.

There is also a sin unto death (Acts 5:1-11; 1 Cor.5:5; 11:30) that occurs with believers who engage in a spiral of reversion and sinfulness that grows ever worse making them an ever worse witness for Christ; at some point, the Lord is unwilling to tolerate their lack of responsiveness to His repeated calls to them to come back to sanctification and respond to discipline; at that point the discipline becomes terminal.  They are still believers and will still be in heaven with the rest of us, but absent reward. 

God Bless!    

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      O’ THE RICH ARE EMPTY, THE HUNGRY HAVE GOOD THINGS
      FOR THE THRONE OF DAVID WOULD HAVE JESUS THE KING
      BUT BEFORE I DELIVERED THE MAN CHILD OF OLD
      CAESAR WITH TAXES DEMANDED OUR GOLD
      TO THE CITY OF DAVID JOSEPH AND I WENT
      ON A BEAST OF BURDEN OUR STRENGTH NEAR SPEND
      NO ROOM AT An INN, BUT A STABLE WAS FOUND
      WITH STRAW AND DUNG LAID ON THE GROUND
      MY FLESH SAW CORRUPTION MY BONES THEY DID ROT
      MY PAPS ARE NOT HOLY, SO TRUST ME NOT
                                                  4
      MY MATRIX WAS OPEN IN A PLACE SO PROFANE
      FROM THE GLORY OF GLORIES TO A BEGGAR’S DOMAIN
      SO WE WRAPPED THE CHILD GIVEN TO THE HEATHEN A STRANGER
      NO REPUTATION IS SOUGHT TO BE BORN IN A MANGER
      HIS STAR WAS ABOVE US THE HOST OF HEAVEN DID SING
      FOR SHEPHERDS AND WISE MEN WORSHIP ONLY THE KING
      BUT HEROD THAT DEVIL SOUGHT FOR HIS SOUL
      AND MURDER RACHEL’S CHILDREN UNDER TWO YEARS OLD
      BUT JOSEPH MY HUSBAND WAS WARNED IN A DREAM
      SO WE FLED INTO EGYPT BECAUSE OF HIS SCHEME
      MY FLESH SAW CORRUPTION MY BONES THEY DID ROT
      MY PAPS ARE NOT HOLY SO TRUST ME NOT
                                               5
      SO THE GIVER OF LIFE, THE ROCK OF ALL AGES
      GREW UP TO FULFILL THE HOLY PAGES
      HE PREACH WITH AUTHORITY LIKE NONE BEFORE
      PLEASE TRUST HIS WORDS AND NOT THE GREAT WHORE
      HER BLACK ROBE PRIEST FILL THEIR LIPS WITH MY NAME
      WITH BLASPHEMOUS PRAISE, DAMMATION AND SHAME
      THERE ARE NO NAIL PRINTS IN MY HANDS, MY BODY DID NOT ARISE
      NOR, AM A DEMON OF FATIMA FLOATING IN THE SKY
      THERE IS NO DEITY IN MY VEINS FOR ADAM CAME FROM SOD
      FOR I, AM, MOTHER OF THE SON OF MAN NOT THE MOTHER OF GOD
      MY FLESH SAW CORRUPTION MY BONES THEY DID ROT
      MY PAPS ARE NOT HOLY, SO TRUST ME NOT
      6
      FOR MY SOUL WAS PURCHASED BY GOD UPON THE CROSS
      FOR MY SINS HE DID SUFFER AN UNMEASURABLE COST
      I WILL NOT STEAL HIS GLORY WHO ROSE FROM THE DEAD
      ENDURING SPIT AND THORNS PLACED ON HIS HEAD
      YET, IF YOU WISH TO HONOR ME THEN GIVE ME NONE AT ALL
      BUT TRUST THE LAMB WHO STOOL IN PILATE’S HALL
      CALL NOT ON THIS REDEEMED WOMAN IN YOUR TIME OF FEAR
      FOR I WILL NOT GIVE ANSWER NEITHER WILL I HEAR
      AND WHEN THE BOOKS ARE OPEN AT THE GREAT WHITE THRONE
      I AMEN YOUR DAMNATION THAT TRUST NOT HIM ALONE
      MY FLESH SAW CORRUPTION MY BONES THEY DID ROT
      MY PAPS ARE NOT HOLY, O’ SINNER TRUST ME NOT

                       WRITTEN BY BRO. WEST
       
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