Witnessing to False Converts

[Larry02]

2Co 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

Simply ask them to tell you about their conversion.

[John81]

Unfortunately, it's often not that simple. Many take offense at what they view as being judged or tested. Of course, if they are not truly saved then it would be natural for them to be sensitive to this and to become angry.

I've heard many Catholics proclaim they don't need to be born again or they don't need to know what the Bible says because they were born Catholic! Or some say because they were baptized as a child. These people are truly lost yet truly believe they are somehow okay with God because they are Catholic.

The same is true of those "raised Christian" or who are "members of this or that church" or who were baptized, etc. They are lost, but they believe they are okay and in no need to hear from "self-righteous busy-bodies."

[TheBibleSender]

The absolute hardest category of people to witness to are those who know all the right lingo, and are convinced they're already saved because they've prayed a prayer, yet they are in all works reprobate, worldly, and completely lacking the fruit of the Spirit.
I just found out that one of my friends is in this category, and it hurts.
I see these people all the time door-to-door or in the fair ministry.

Any ideas will be helpful, although I'd appreciate if I could get more input than "ask if they're 100 sure they're going to heaven" or "the good person test," or something. These sorts of people have built up so much resistance...You can show them from the law that they're lost and condmned to hell, but since they've "been born again" or "accepted Jesus," it's ok.

What I'm probably looking for are some convicting Bible verses to use, or...I just don't know. I tried stuff like 2 Corinthians 13:5 with this girl, who just shrugged it off...the false-conversion experience really brings a hardness of heart--"gospel-hardened"--that makes it so hard to change a person's mind--yet we know with God, anything is possible...But this is Hebrews 6:4-6 type of stuff...Simply awful. It's scary what's happening in America with so many people having been falsely converted, and lacking repentance.

Help is greatly appreciated...It breaks my heart that this is what has become of modern American "Christianity"--of friends I knew from church--of coworkers, and so on.

I just seen a tract the other day that was designed for people you suspected were false converts I will have to see if I can find it for you. Other than that it is tough. I have showed the dvd true and false conversion to a few people that I suspected were false converts. I didn't get much of a response. God bless. :)

[BibleBeliever123]

I read your tract Mr.Samer http://tracts4god.googlepages.com/christian_generic.pdf
Very sound indeed! Glory to God!

[TheBibleSender]

I just seen a tract the other day that was designed for people you suspected were false converts I will have to see if I can find it for you. Other than that it is tough. I have showed the dvd true and false conversion to a few people that I suspected were false converts. I didn't get much of a response. God bless.

Here is the link to the tract I was talking about http://shop.thegreatnews.com/index.php? ... cts_id=189 God bless. :)

[IM4given]

WOW! That is a very powerful tract! Thanks for posting it.

I don't think most of today's preachers even know what SIN actually is - they are too busy back peddling and white washing the TRUTH!

[Guest Guest]

Lol most IFB preachers I know know what sin is, and they preach it.

Katy-Anne

[John81]

Sadly, we have a couple pastors/churches within the area who still call themselves IFB but I would say they are far removed from IFB.

Both now use MV Bibles, both are involved in ecumenical activities which involve Catholics and other obviously unbiblical churches, both now use a "non-confrontational" means of preaching (while this may sound nice, it generally means they are weak on preaching personal sin and the need for repentance), etc.

[ServingHim]

Yes, they use terms like "shortcomings", "weakness", "failures". They also, if they even use the word "sin", they don't bother naming particular ones. I wonder if they fear that they will tread on someones's particular "weakness"? My Bible says to "Cry aloud, spare not..."

[John81]

The below speaks to the problem very well:

http://onlinebaptist.com/messageboards/ ... hp?t=15841


WHAT SAVES? - THE POWER OF GOD OR THE SENSITIVE WAY?

By Paul Proctor

January 10, 2007

NewsWithViews.com

Christian Post reporter, Lillian Kwon, poses a dialectic question for our consideration in her January 4th article, "Is Christianity Insensitive to Other Religions?"

Now I ask you - Does the question sound like something that advances a biblical principle or a U.N initiative? Unfortunately, this is the direction of the dialectic church and many of its missionaries today - steering Christians and their proselytes toward that one-world religion of tolerance, diversity and unity you've read so much about in this column.

A dialectic question, usually offered by change agents and facilitators in a group setting, is designed to present a false and distracting premise in order to encourage dialog between opposing positions with a predetermined outcome in mind - which, more often than not, involves the compromise of absolutes and the advancing of an alternative agenda. Whether or not Christianity is insensitive to other religions is beside the point - and frankly, it is an absurd and dangerously deceitful question that puts the bold and courageous presentation of the Gospel under a dark cloud of doubt - suggesting Christians should be more broadminded and less critical of that which contradicts the Word of God.

The Post article begins this way:


Christian missionaries travel across the world to preach Jesus Christ as the way, the truth and the life. Indigenous people of foreign lands, however, question the bold Christian approach with some calling it "insensitive."
Let's just stop right here. Where does scripture say that the preaching the Gospel should be carried out in a "sensitive" manner? The word "sensitive" doesn't even appear in the Bible - at least not in any version I searched. The words "bold" and "boldly" do appear though, numerous times in the New Testament and almost always refer to the preaching of God's Word. The Gospel only becomes sensitive when it is leavened with liberal tolerance and global values.


"People asked 'Are you really going all the way across the world to ask people to change from their Buddhist way and become Christian?'" Steve Bailey, associate professor at Alliance Theological Seminary in metro New York, recalled during a seminar last week at Urbana 2006.
That's precisely what preaching repentance does! It calls on idolaters to, among other things, forsake their false gods! Real evangelism doesn't encourage the mere adding of Jesus Christ to one's Buddhist beliefs; it literally turns people from rebellious religions and foolish philosophies to the only begotten Son of God! I'm sure there would be a lot fewer martyrs if the Gospel of Christ was not exclusive and idolatry was tolerated by missionaries as just another acceptable lifestyle or cultural preference. How many do you think have suffered persecution, imprisonment and death for simply saying, "Jesus loves you" to a Buddhist, Hindu or Muslim? Very few, I'm sure. But, how about those who have dared to call for their repentance, proclaiming Jesus Christ as the only way to eternal life? And, which of these two vastly different approaches did Jesus, John the Baptist and the leaders of the early church practice?


Bailey, who served as a missionary in Southeast Asia for 17 years, had asked a native what they thought about Christians.
The Southeast Asian responded, "They're very nice people who never stop talking. Christians know too much."

Whoa! Hold it right there! That's another dialectic diversion. It doesn't matter what Southeast Asians think about Christians - it's irrelevant! We're not called to be loved but rather to love; and as I've written many times before, telling someone the truth is the most loving thing you can do for them. Jesus already warned us that we would be hated by the world because of Him. If we concern ourselves with what the world thinks of us, we'll never preach the Gospel, will we?

Such questions only redirect everyone's attention away from the uncompromising Word of God and Jesus' demand for obedience, toward the cordial and cooperative establishing and maintaining of harmony and better human relationships among diverse beliefs and cultures from around the world. In other words, it shifts the emphasis away from the vertical, Heavenly and eternal to the horizontal, earthly and temporal, implying the latter is more important than the former - and to the new world order crowd, it is.

"Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God." - James 4:4


Missionaries are typically told to proclaim the gospel to the ends of the earth, but many times, that Christian mandate impedes on the other people group's culture and religion.
Duh!

The Gospel of Jesus Christ is designed to impede on the world's sinful cultures and rebellious religions. In fact, I'd call such intrusions a victory, wouldn't you?

"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword." - Matthew 10:4

You see, the false premise being subtly suggested here by Mr. Bailey is that the "Christian mandate" may not be proper for missionaries. But those who accept this satanic counsel are, for all practical purposes, being silenced into submission and rendered useless to the cause of Christ, becoming pleasers of men rather than pleasers of God.

"But as we were allowed of God to be put in trust with the gospel, even so we speak; not as pleasing men, but God, which trieth our hearts." - 1st Thessalonians 2:4


Hussam Fakhoury of International Fellowship of Evangelical Students is an Arab Christian from Jordan. When Christians preach that Jesus died on the cross or about the triune God to the Muslim world, he says that's being "insensitive."
No, Hussam, that's being obedient...

"Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine." - 2nd Timothy 4:2


"Many times we don't model Christ," Fakhoury told a room full of mainly North American students aspiring to serve as missionaries.
True - but that doesn't mean we are to set aside the Word of God and just act like Christians, hoping the lost will somehow get the message and heed the call to repentance and faith in Christ. Furthermore, I'd love to know what Fakhoury thinks the "model" of Christ looks like - a quiet, submissive, compliant and effeminate Jesus maybe? Something tells me, his Jesus is vastly different from the Bible's - something of a new age savior who loves and accepts everyone and everything unconditionally. Suffice it to say, stifling the presentation of the Gospel in the interest of global unity is certainly not the model of Christ.


"Being tolerant and sensitive doesn't mean to compromise the truth," Fakhoury clarified.
In light of his other remarks, I'd also love to hear what his definition of "truth" is. Even if it is consistent with that of scripture, there is no Divine call to withhold it in order to spare someone's feelings or traditions. What would be the eternal value of that? I would much rather offend someone with the truth to help clarify the way to Heaven than coddle and comfort them with the corrupt quietness of conciliation and compromise on their way to Hell.


"The power of a Christian life," said Bailey, "is always a sensitive way to communicate the gospel."
Wrong!

It is not the "sensitive way" of a Christian's life that saves the lost, but rather the Power of God through the foolishness of preaching - the very thing Hussam Fakhoury, in all his worldly wisdom, is suggesting should be avoided.



"For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God

[Guest Guest]

Ahh that's too long for tired pregnant woman to read right now LOL.

Katy-Anne

[John81]

Well Katy-Anne, to sum it up...

Should we Christians be bold in preaching Christ as put forth in the Bible as the ONLY Way, Truth and Life; as the absolutely ONLY way to God, salvation and heaven...

Or, should we be sensitive to the feelings and religious beliefs of others and not offend them by saying these "intolerant" things, and simply hope maybe somehow they will come to Christ because we are nice people, or they might mix some Christianity in with their false religion?

The first way is the way the Apostles went forth as commanded by Christ.

The second way is the way far too many modern churches/pastors/Christians are doing it today.

Which way truly leads to salvation? Which way will you live?

[dwayner79]

Just reading your summary, you have some pretty serious presuppositions in there. This is not a black and white issue.

I read the first statement and agreed with it. I read the second and agreed with it up to "..."intolerant" things..."

There is no reason to be overly offensive for no reason. The Gospel is rather offensive on its own (the idea that someone is a sinner and needs to have forgiveness of that sin)... it does not need us adding arrogant or self-righteous attitudes to boot.

You speak the truth in Love. Those two positions are not the only options.

[Guest Guest]

I vote #1 because that is what the Bible teaches. Hehe.

Katy-Anne

[John81]

Just reading your summary, you have some pretty serious presuppositions in there. This is not a black and white issue.

I read the first statement and agreed with it. I read the second and agreed with it up to "..."intolerant" things..."

There is no reason to be overly offensive for no reason. The Gospel is rather offensive on its own (the idea that someone is a sinner and needs to have forgiveness of that sin)... it does not need us adding arrogant or self-righteous attitudes to boot.

You speak the truth in Love. Those two positions are not the only options.

How can one truly preach the Gospel if they refuse to point out that Jesus is the ONLY way to God?

That's what the article is talking about. There are those professing Christians today who don't want to offend a Muslim, Mormon, pagan or whatever, by telling them that Jesus is the ONLY way to God.

Of course we are to present the Gospel in love, but we can't truly present the Gospel without speaking the truth of what the Gospel message is, which so many find offensive.