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HOW OLD IS THE EARTH?


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There are fossils of sea creatures in the rocks on some of the highest mountains, but the mountains were created within DAYS. Dinosaurs once roamed the earth, and now they're gone. I haven't figured that out, you haven't either, and we likely never will.

Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. Proverbs 3:5

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What is there to figure out ?  

Nothing contradicts God's Word except what men come up with opposed to Him.

Men who trust the world like bb's posts daily reveal,  live daily in much continuing error.

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Little children who trust our Father in heaven learn from Him and Delight in Him Daily, and in His Word.

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On 8/30/2021 at 12:23 PM, Bouncing Bill said:

The earth is very old.

The Bible is not meant and never was meant to be a science book.

6000 years is, indeed, very old. And yes, genesis is clearly written as to be taken literally. No room or evidence for a gap nor theistic evolution.

Someone mentioned egocentrism in an earlier post, and here is an interesting thought: How do we know that earth ISN'T the center of the universe? Seriously, we don't have the technology to see the ends of the universe from any direction, so how do we know God didn't place Earth directly in the center? I'm not saying it IS, just saying, there's no conceivable proof to say either way.

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6 minutes ago, Ukulelemike said:

6000 years is, indeed, very old. And yes, genesis is clearly written as to be taken literally. No room or evidence for a gap nor theistic evolution.

Someone mentioned egocentrism in an earlier post, and here is an interesting thought: How do we know that earth ISN'T the center of the universe? Seriously, we don't have the technology to see the ends of the universe from any direction, so how do we know God didn't place Earth directly in the center? I'm not saying it IS, just saying, there's no conceivable proof to say either way.

Actually the earth is much older than 6000 years. And, you do realize that there are two creations stories in Genesis.

How do we know we are not the center. We know because we know the shape of our universe and we are not in the center, but out in one of the arms. 

https://www.encyclopedia.com/science/science-magazines/historic-dispute-earth-center-universe

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_center_of_the_Universe#Milky_Way's_galactic_center_as_center_of_the_Universe

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On 8/30/2021 at 3:23 PM, Bouncing Bill said:

The Bible is not meant and never was meant to be a science book.

And yet when it does makes scientific statements it is always completely true and accurate and are meant to be accepted by believers as such even when we may not completely understand how it can be reconciled with current secular theories. We must remember as believers, the bible is written with the Spiritual as a distinct and tangible reality. Secular science however must by design start its observation on the lower material realm. 

God starts with all knowledge of both Material and Spiritual but man's knowledge without God's help can only start in that material observations that are often inconsistent and have to be rethought when new and ever complex concepts are discovered. Its foolish to try to redefine what scripter means by the meagerly and inept theories when the Devine has clearly explained to us.

“For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance, he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries.” ~ Robert Jastrow, "God and the Astronomers"

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29 minutes ago, Bouncing Bill said:

And, you do realize that there are two creations stories in Genesis.

There is only one of Creation. The second is is specifically of the Garden of Eden, not all of creation. God gave the broad picture in chapter 1 and then narrowed down in chapter 2 to what happened in that specific location.

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13 minutes ago, John Young said:

There is only one of Creation. The second is is specifically of the Garden of Eden, not all of creation. God gave the broad picture in chapter 1 and then narrowed down in chapter 2 to what happened in that specific location.

Yes, but the second describes the creation of Adam and Eve. 

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14 minutes ago, John Young said:

There is only one of Creation. The second is is specifically of the Garden of Eden, not all of creation. God gave the broad picture in chapter 1 and then narrowed down in chapter 2 to what happened in that specific location.

Well, the Bible talks about the 4 corners of the earth. There are no corners. 

Genesis Ch. No. 1 Verses No. 3 and 5,…‘Light was created on the first day.’ Genesis, Ch., 1 Verses, 14 to 19… ‘The cause of light - stars and the sun, etc. was created on the fourth day’.  How can the cause of light be created on the 4th day - later than the light which came into existence on the first day? 

King James talks about a unicorn. There has never been a unicorn. 

No, the Bible was never intended to science book. 

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49 minutes ago, Bouncing Bill said:

The order of creation is reversed however.

That's the order of things brought to the garden of Eden and not the order of created things in the  greater world or the universe. Genesis 1 God makes the universe. Genesis 2 the LORD God makes a garden within that same universe with the same first beings and then brings it all there to make the garden. They were not created at that moment but rather brought there.

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13 minutes ago, John Young said:

That's the order of things brought to the garden of Eden and not the order of created things in the  greater world or the universe. Genesis 1 God makes the universe. Genesis 2 the LORD God makes a garden within that same universe with the same first beings and then brings it all there to make the garden. They were not created at that moment but rather brought there.

That is not what Genesis 2:4 states.

"These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the heavens and earth."

Note: This verse suggests that God created the heavens and earth in one day. 

Also, note that the verse states nothing about a garden. That comes later.

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58 minutes ago, John Young said:

Gen2:1-7 are concluding and transitioning verses from creation of the world as the subject to man and the garden being the subject.

 

58 minutes ago, John Young said:

Gen2:1-7 are concluding and transitioning verses from creation of the world as the subject to man and the garden being the subject.

I agree. But that does not negate what I said. There are two creation stories and they are different.  But that has nothing to do with the age of the earth. And, as I said, the Bible was never meant to be a science book. 

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