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      Closed Communion
      James Foley
       
      I Corinthians 11:17-34: "Now in this that I declare unto you I praise you not, that ye come together not for the better, but for the worse. For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it. For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you. When ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat the Lord's Supper. For in eating every one taketh before other his own supper: and one is hungry, and another is drunken. What? have ye not houses to eat and to drink in? or despise ye the church of God, and shame them that have not? What shall I say to you? shall I praise you in this? I praise you not. For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread: And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me. For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do show the Lord's death till he come. Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord. But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup. For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body. For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep. For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged. But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world. Wherefore, my brethren, when ye come together to eat, tarry one for another. And if any man hunger, let him eat at home; that ye come not together unto condemnation. And the rest will I set in order when I come."

      INTRODUCTION

      Historic Baptists, true Baptists, have believed in and still believe in closed communion. Baptists impose upon themselves the same restrictions that they impose on others concerning the Lord’s Supper. Baptists have always insisted that it is the Lord’s Table, not theirs; and He alone has the right to say who shall sit at His table. No amount of so called brotherly love, or ecumenical spirit, should cause us to invite to His table those who have not complied with the requirements laid down plainly in His inspired Word. With respect to Bible doctrines we must always use the scripture as our guide and practice. For Baptists, two of the most important doctrines are Baptism and The Lord’s Supper. These are the only two doctrines we recognize as Church Ordinances. The Bible is very clear in teaching how these doctrines are to be practiced and by whom.

      We only have two ordinances that we must never compromise or we risk our very existence, they are Baptism and The Lord’s Supper.

      The moment we deviate from the precise method God has prescribed we have started down the slippery slope of error. True Baptists have held fast to the original doctrine of The Lord’s Supper from the time of Christ and the Apostles.

      Unfortunately, in this day of what the Bible describes as the age of luke warmness, Baptists are becoming careless in regard to strictly following the pattern laid out for us in Scripture. Many of our Bible colleges are graduating otherwise sincere, Godly and dedicated pastors and teachers who have not been taught the very strict, biblical requirements that surround the Lord’s Supper. Any Bible college that neglects to teach its students the differences surrounding Closed Communion, Close Communion and Open Communion is not simply short changing its students; it is also not equipping their students to carry on sound Bible traditions. The result is men of God and churches that fall into error. And as we will see, this is serious error.

      Should we as Baptists ignore the restrictions made by our Lord and Master? NO! When we hold to the restrictions placed upon the Lord’s Supper by our Master, we are defending the "faith which was once delivered to the saints" Jude 3.

      The Lord’s Supper is rigidly restricted and I will show this in the following facts:

      IT IS RESTRICTED AS TO PLACE

      A. I Corinthians 11:18 says, "When ye come together in the church." This does not mean the church building; they had none. In other words, when the church assembles. The supper is to be observed by the church, in church capacity. Again this does not mean the church house. Ekklesia, the Greek word for church, means assembly. "When ye come together in the church," is when the church assembles.

      B. When we say church we mean an assembly of properly baptized believers. Acts 2:41-42: "Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls. And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers."

      The church is made up of saved people who are baptized by immersion. In the Bible, belief precedes baptism. That’s the Bible way.

      Acts 8:12-13, "But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women. Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized, he continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles and signs which were done."

      When we say properly baptized, we mean immersed. No unbeliever should take the Lord’s supper, and no non-immersed believer should take the supper. Those who are sprinkled are not baptized and cannot receive the supper. The Greek word for baptize is baptizo, and it always means to immerse.

      "In every case where communion is referred to, or where it may possibly have been administered, the believers had been baptized Acts 2:42; 8:12; 8:38; 10:47; 6:14-15; 18:8; 20:7. Baptism comes before communion, just as repentance and faith precede baptism".

      C. The Lord’s Supper is for baptized believers in church capacity: "When ye come together in the church," again not a building, but the assembly of the properly baptized believers.

      D. The fact that the Lord’s Supper is a church ordinance, to be observed in church capacity, is pointed out by the fact that it is for those who have been immersed and added to the fellowship of the church.

      E. The Lord’s Supper is never spoken of in connection with individuals. When it is referred to, it is only referred to in reference to baptized believers in local church capacity I Cor. 11:20-26).

      I want to quote Dr. W.W. Hamilton,

      "The individual administration of the ordinance has no Bible warrant and is a relic of Romanism. The Lord’s Supper is a church ordinance, and anything which goes beyond or comes short of this fails for want of scriptural example or command".

      “The practice of taking a little communion kit to hospitals, nursing homes, etc. is unscriptural and does not follow the scriptural example.”

      IT IS RESTRICTED TO A UNITED CHURCH

      A. The Bible in I Cor. 11:18 is very strong in condemning divisions around the Lord’s table. For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it.
      19 For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.
      20 When ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat the Lord's supper.

      There were no less than four divisions in the Corinthian church.
      I Cor. 1:12: "Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ."

      Because of these divisions, it was impossible for them to scripturally eat the Lord’s Supper. Division in the local church is reason to hold off observing the Lord’s Supper. But there are also other reasons to forego taking the Lord’s Supper. If there is gross sin in the membership we do not take it. Here is scriptural evidence for this: 1Co 5:7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our Passover is sacrificed for us:
      8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth. 9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:
      10 Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. 11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

      B. At this point, I want to ask these questions: Are there not doctrinal divisions among the many denominations? Is it not our doctrinal differences that cause us to be separate religious bodies?

      IT IS RESTRICTED BY DOCTRINE

      A. Those in the early church at Jerusalem who partook "continued stedfastly in the apostles’ doctrine" Acts 2:42. And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.

      B. Those that do not hold to apostolic truth are not to partake. This means there is to be discipline in the local body. How can you discipline those who do not belong to the local body? You can’t. The clear command of scripture is to withdraw fellowship from those who are not doctrinally sound.

      II Thes 3:6: "Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us."
      Rom. 16:17: "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them."
      To commune together means to have the same doctrine.
      II Thes. 2:15: "Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle."
      II John 10-11: "If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds."

      C. Some Baptists in our day have watered down this doctrine by practicing what they call “Close Communion.” By this they mean that they believe that members of another Baptist church may take communion with us because they are of the same beliefs. Once again, this is unscriptural.

      The welcome to the Lord's Table should not be extended beyond the discipline of the local church. When we take the Lord’s Supper there is supposed to be no gross sin among us and no divisions among us. We have no idea of the spiritual condition of another church’s members. If there is sin or division in the case of this other church’s members, we have no way of knowing it. We cannot discipline them because they are not members of our church. This is why we practice “Closed” communion, meaning it is restricted solely to our church membership. 
      So then, in closing I would like to reiterate the three different ideas concerning the Lord’s Supper and who is to take it. 
      Closed Communion = Only members of a single local church. 
      Close Communion = Members of like faith and order may partake. 
      Open Communion = If you claim to be a Christian, or simply attending the service, you may partake. 
      It is no small thing to attempt to change that which was implemented by our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. 
      Mt. 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen. 
      Many of our Baptist churches have a real need to consider the gravity of the act of observing The Lord’s Supper. It is not a light thing that is to be taken casually or without regard to the spiritual condition of ourselves or our church.
      1Co. 11:27 Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.

       28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.

       29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.

       30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.

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Oh.....it's called a KILT???
Where I come from....we call it a DRESS! :lol:


A kilt is not a dress and a dress is not a kilt. Different articles of clothing entirely.
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this was in my Bible reading today and I thought about this post

Also the Levites which were the singers, all of them of Asaph, of Heman, of Jeduthun, with their sons and their brethren, being arrayed in white linen, having cymbals and psalteries and harps, stood at the east end of the altar, and with them an hundred and twenty priests sounding with trumpets:)
It came even to pass, as the trumpeters and singers were as one, to make one sound to be heard in praising and thanking the LORD; and when they lifted up their voice with the trumpets and cymbals and instruments of music, and praised the LORD, saying, For he is good; for his mercy endureth for ever: that then the house was filled with a cloud, even the house of the LORD;II Chronicles 5:12,13

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Besides the piano or organ.... what are appropriate instruments to have in church? I know the drums are out, but what about stringed instruments, brass etc.... the reason that I am asking is that the church that we are attending has an elderly man that plays the guitar with some of the songs and special music, and I just love it. Just wondered what your thoughts were?


No organ. Organs are the instrument of the Roman Catholic Church.


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From the Watchman And Observer, Richmond VA
February 22, 1849, Volume IV, No. 28.
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[quote]
No organ. Organs are the instrument of the Roman Catholic Church.
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Psalm 150

1 ¶ Praise ye the LORD. Praise God in his sanctuary: praise him in the firmament of his power.


2 Praise him for his mighty acts: praise him according to his excellent greatness.


3 Praise him with the sound of the [b]trumpet[/b]: praise him with the [b]psaltery and harp[/b].


4 Praise him with the [b]timbrel and dance[/b]: praise him with [b]stringed instruments[/b] and [size=25]organs[/size].


5 Praise him upon the[b] loud cymbals[/b]: praise him upon the [b]high sounding cymbals[/b].


6 Let [b]every thing that hath breath[/b] praise the LORD. Praise ye the LORD.

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For those who are curious about my fondness for Bluegrass gospel music, here are some interesting ancient instruments...

[spoiler]a [u][b]psaltery[/b][/u] is a precursor to the mountain dulcimer...

[img]http://www.bambooflute.com/bow2new.jpg[/img]


Here is what a [u][b]timbrel[/b][/u] looks like....

[img]http://www.masterkit.com/rwc/images/fotos_productos/ligeras/timbrel_single.jpg[/img]

An ancient [u][b]Harp[/b][/u]...

[img]http://www.bible-history.com/sketches/ancient/harp.jpg[/img]

Other ancient stringed instruments...

[img]http://www.summerthundermusic.com/index_files/SE_data/ZhongRuan.jpg[/img]

[img]http://www.hobgoblin.com/itempics/gr3600k.jpg[/img]

[img]http://www.stillonthehill.com/pictures/instruments/DSCF0083.jpg[/img]

This is an ancient trumpet made from ram's horn...

[img]http://www.civilization.ca/hist/advertis/images/adob6-3b.gif[/img]

The ancient organ was called a Hydralis and was invented around 300 B.C. ....

[img]http://www.archaeologychannel.org/images/hydranc.jpg[/img]

Although no one actually knows when or where bagpipes were invented, it is believed that bagpipes predate the Hydralis by several centuries. This is a hieroglyphic if a bagpiper from Ancient Persia. Bag pipes are in the same musical family as pipe organs, except they do not have the keyboard. This could very well have been an instrument in King David's court...

[img]http://etc.usf.edu/clipart/27800/27875/bag-pipe_27875_th.gif[/img][/spoiler]

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What do y'all think of voodoo bongo drums played in church? On one hand, I have heard that such beats and rythms pertain to devil/demon worship and have no place in a Christian orchestra, and on the other hand I have heard that as long as the person who is wailing on the drums is doing it to worship the Lord, it is okay. I don't know if King David had drums in his psalms or not.

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Did you say VOODOO bongo drums? Hmm....
Voodoo- a black religious cult in the Caribbean and southern U.S., combining elements of Roman Catholic ritual with traditional African magical and religious rites, and characterized by sorcery and spirit possession.

Why is it that we can take the world's music, say we are doing it as unto the Lord and suddenly it becomes Christian? Take away all standards, I'll do it all unto the Lord. :loco

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Personally, I have a problem with drums in the church. You never see them mentioned in the Bible - and they were available in OT times. You do find handheld percussion instruments, like tambourines and tabrets, but not drums.

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Our church has the traditonal piano and organ. Sometimes the Associate/Youth pastor will play a guitar with one of the songs in the service. That's it for musical instruments there.

Oh, the guitar he plays is a plain old guitar, not one of those electric guitars hooked to an amp like I've had the misfortune to hear in a couple of churches.

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I believe it all boils down to all things in moderation.


To an extent I agree. Of course, what some people consider "moderate" I wouldn't. Those chuches I visited with the screaming electric guitars didn't see anything wrong in that and didn't believe they were anywhere close to anything away from moderation.
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I went to a service in a Charismatic Baptist Church (you heard it right) that was like a third rate rock concert. The guy on the drums was doing drum rolls all over the place like the rock groups of the 80's did a lot.

I went to a revival at a KJV bible believing church outside Dayton, Ohio once and they had a small drum set. It keeped a good rythmn without getting showy or over powering and added a little "life" to the songs.

All things in moderation.

Wil

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Do all drumbeats "excite the flesh?"

There are some beats that obviously do bring about wrong fleshly "feelings" and often actions but I have noticed drums used in many forms of music where I don't see how it could be said to "excite the flesh."

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It's not always the instrument....it's how it's played.....

Three basic elements of music: Melody, Harmony, and rhythm. Without some kind of rhythm to keep everyone in synch....music can sound pretty bad. I've heard preachers lambast drums but watched that same preacher tapping his foot to the rhythm of the piano. Yep, pianos produce rhythm too.
Once again, it's not the instrument...it's how it's played. Most of the "southern gospel" you hear today, has WAY to much drums in it.

I've heard drums many times, played in "military style" and it sure wasn't fleshly, and I've heard some sweet, God honouring music on electric guitar, many times. Nothing wrong with an electric bass either, if it's played right and not overpowering. It adds to the music.

But just as you can use an electric or acoustic guitar to play rock, blues, jazz, anything;
you can put "caps" on a piano and play it "honky tonk" style. Or you can play "honky tonk" even without the caps.
Even organs have been used in rock music many times. I could give examples.

We play bluegrass gospel....no drums.....and all acoustic. But I have nothing against any instrument as long as it is played "making melody in your hearts unto the Lord" and not in a manner that excites the flesh.

Col 3:23 And whatsoever ye do, do [it] heartily, as to the Lord, and not unto men;

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Please don't chew my church out but we have electric guitars, regular guitars, regular piano, organ, keyboard, and drums LOL. What makes this cute is the one side has the grand piano and and guitars and the other side has the Organ , Keyboard and drum set. Without these You will fall asleep at my church after you here what melody they play.

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