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      Closed Communion
      James Foley
       
      I Corinthians 11:17-34: "Now in this that I declare unto you I praise you not, that ye come together not for the better, but for the worse. For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it. For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you. When ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat the Lord's Supper. For in eating every one taketh before other his own supper: and one is hungry, and another is drunken. What? have ye not houses to eat and to drink in? or despise ye the church of God, and shame them that have not? What shall I say to you? shall I praise you in this? I praise you not. For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread: And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me. For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do show the Lord's death till he come. Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord. But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup. For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body. For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep. For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged. But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world. Wherefore, my brethren, when ye come together to eat, tarry one for another. And if any man hunger, let him eat at home; that ye come not together unto condemnation. And the rest will I set in order when I come."

      INTRODUCTION

      Historic Baptists, true Baptists, have believed in and still believe in closed communion. Baptists impose upon themselves the same restrictions that they impose on others concerning the Lord’s Supper. Baptists have always insisted that it is the Lord’s Table, not theirs; and He alone has the right to say who shall sit at His table. No amount of so called brotherly love, or ecumenical spirit, should cause us to invite to His table those who have not complied with the requirements laid down plainly in His inspired Word. With respect to Bible doctrines we must always use the scripture as our guide and practice. For Baptists, two of the most important doctrines are Baptism and The Lord’s Supper. These are the only two doctrines we recognize as Church Ordinances. The Bible is very clear in teaching how these doctrines are to be practiced and by whom.

      We only have two ordinances that we must never compromise or we risk our very existence, they are Baptism and The Lord’s Supper.

      The moment we deviate from the precise method God has prescribed we have started down the slippery slope of error. True Baptists have held fast to the original doctrine of The Lord’s Supper from the time of Christ and the Apostles.

      Unfortunately, in this day of what the Bible describes as the age of luke warmness, Baptists are becoming careless in regard to strictly following the pattern laid out for us in Scripture. Many of our Bible colleges are graduating otherwise sincere, Godly and dedicated pastors and teachers who have not been taught the very strict, biblical requirements that surround the Lord’s Supper. Any Bible college that neglects to teach its students the differences surrounding Closed Communion, Close Communion and Open Communion is not simply short changing its students; it is also not equipping their students to carry on sound Bible traditions. The result is men of God and churches that fall into error. And as we will see, this is serious error.

      Should we as Baptists ignore the restrictions made by our Lord and Master? NO! When we hold to the restrictions placed upon the Lord’s Supper by our Master, we are defending the "faith which was once delivered to the saints" Jude 3.

      The Lord’s Supper is rigidly restricted and I will show this in the following facts:

      IT IS RESTRICTED AS TO PLACE

      A. I Corinthians 11:18 says, "When ye come together in the church." This does not mean the church building; they had none. In other words, when the church assembles. The supper is to be observed by the church, in church capacity. Again this does not mean the church house. Ekklesia, the Greek word for church, means assembly. "When ye come together in the church," is when the church assembles.

      B. When we say church we mean an assembly of properly baptized believers. Acts 2:41-42: "Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls. And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers."

      The church is made up of saved people who are baptized by immersion. In the Bible, belief precedes baptism. That’s the Bible way.

      Acts 8:12-13, "But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women. Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized, he continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles and signs which were done."

      When we say properly baptized, we mean immersed. No unbeliever should take the Lord’s supper, and no non-immersed believer should take the supper. Those who are sprinkled are not baptized and cannot receive the supper. The Greek word for baptize is baptizo, and it always means to immerse.

      "In every case where communion is referred to, or where it may possibly have been administered, the believers had been baptized Acts 2:42; 8:12; 8:38; 10:47; 6:14-15; 18:8; 20:7. Baptism comes before communion, just as repentance and faith precede baptism".

      C. The Lord’s Supper is for baptized believers in church capacity: "When ye come together in the church," again not a building, but the assembly of the properly baptized believers.

      D. The fact that the Lord’s Supper is a church ordinance, to be observed in church capacity, is pointed out by the fact that it is for those who have been immersed and added to the fellowship of the church.

      E. The Lord’s Supper is never spoken of in connection with individuals. When it is referred to, it is only referred to in reference to baptized believers in local church capacity I Cor. 11:20-26).

      I want to quote Dr. W.W. Hamilton,

      "The individual administration of the ordinance has no Bible warrant and is a relic of Romanism. The Lord’s Supper is a church ordinance, and anything which goes beyond or comes short of this fails for want of scriptural example or command".

      “The practice of taking a little communion kit to hospitals, nursing homes, etc. is unscriptural and does not follow the scriptural example.”

      IT IS RESTRICTED TO A UNITED CHURCH

      A. The Bible in I Cor. 11:18 is very strong in condemning divisions around the Lord’s table. For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it.
      19 For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.
      20 When ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat the Lord's supper.

      There were no less than four divisions in the Corinthian church.
      I Cor. 1:12: "Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ."

      Because of these divisions, it was impossible for them to scripturally eat the Lord’s Supper. Division in the local church is reason to hold off observing the Lord’s Supper. But there are also other reasons to forego taking the Lord’s Supper. If there is gross sin in the membership we do not take it. Here is scriptural evidence for this: 1Co 5:7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our Passover is sacrificed for us:
      8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth. 9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:
      10 Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. 11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

      B. At this point, I want to ask these questions: Are there not doctrinal divisions among the many denominations? Is it not our doctrinal differences that cause us to be separate religious bodies?

      IT IS RESTRICTED BY DOCTRINE

      A. Those in the early church at Jerusalem who partook "continued stedfastly in the apostles’ doctrine" Acts 2:42. And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.

      B. Those that do not hold to apostolic truth are not to partake. This means there is to be discipline in the local body. How can you discipline those who do not belong to the local body? You can’t. The clear command of scripture is to withdraw fellowship from those who are not doctrinally sound.

      II Thes 3:6: "Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us."
      Rom. 16:17: "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them."
      To commune together means to have the same doctrine.
      II Thes. 2:15: "Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle."
      II John 10-11: "If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds."

      C. Some Baptists in our day have watered down this doctrine by practicing what they call “Close Communion.” By this they mean that they believe that members of another Baptist church may take communion with us because they are of the same beliefs. Once again, this is unscriptural.

      The welcome to the Lord's Table should not be extended beyond the discipline of the local church. When we take the Lord’s Supper there is supposed to be no gross sin among us and no divisions among us. We have no idea of the spiritual condition of another church’s members. If there is sin or division in the case of this other church’s members, we have no way of knowing it. We cannot discipline them because they are not members of our church. This is why we practice “Closed” communion, meaning it is restricted solely to our church membership. 
      So then, in closing I would like to reiterate the three different ideas concerning the Lord’s Supper and who is to take it. 
      Closed Communion = Only members of a single local church. 
      Close Communion = Members of like faith and order may partake. 
      Open Communion = If you claim to be a Christian, or simply attending the service, you may partake. 
      It is no small thing to attempt to change that which was implemented by our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. 
      Mt. 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen. 
      Many of our Baptist churches have a real need to consider the gravity of the act of observing The Lord’s Supper. It is not a light thing that is to be taken casually or without regard to the spiritual condition of ourselves or our church.
      1Co. 11:27 Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.

       28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.

       29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.

       30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.

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Thanks for the tip on the rust.... my new muffin pan has a tiny bit of rust... I think hubby did not dry it good :uuhm: The dirt part is interesting.... I wonder if it really works :puzzled:


Flourgirl, when I got my first pans, I was taught to season them with peanut oil. I only had regular oil, so I used that. You rub the oil all over, inside and out, kind of rub it in so it's not dripping. Them you have to bake it in. You don't want to do that in the winter, because it gets smelly and smoky!!! I always had to open everything. Also, when I dry my skillets, I dry them on a burner on the stove - gets the water completely out of them.

I don't know if the dirt thing works, but my dad is an old farm boy from WVA, and he knows a lot of strange things that really work!!
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Cast iron skillets are the best. With proper care, they will last through several generations. They also put minute amounts of iron into the food, and that is good for you. CJP56

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My Mom had a set of cast iron skillets. I learned to cook using those and I washed them many a times over the years growing up. I was supposed to get them when Mom passed away (my sister hates cast iron) but we can't find them anywhere. Dad thinks they might have accidently been tossed out at some time. :sad

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I don't hardly cook at all, but my wife and girls cook in our cast iron cookware all the time. We own 2 dutch ovens, 2- 12" skillets, 2- 8" skillets, 1- 6" skillet, a muffin pan, a corn cob shaped corn bread pan, and a griddle, all well seasoned.

You can make just about anything in cast iron cookware, even cakes. I think it would be a profitable venture for any cook to learn how to use these gems. Cast iron will last a lifetime and beyond.

The other day, I was going to by my wife a cast iron cookbook at the Tractor Supply Company. I was there buying feed for the livestock.

To me, IMHO, cornbread cooked in a cast iron skillet, cannot be beat. :hungry:

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I don't hardly cook at all, but my wife and girls cook in our cast iron cookware all the time. We own 2 dutch ovens, 2- 12" skillets, 2- 8" skillets, 1- 6" skillet, a muffin pan, a corn cob shaped corn bread pan, and a griddle, all well seasoned.

You can make just about anything in cast iron cookware, even cakes. I think it would be a profitable venture for any cook to learn how to use these gems. Cast iron will last a lifetime and beyond.

The other day, I was going to by my wife a cast iron cookbook at the Tractor Supply Company. I was there buying feed for the livestock.

To me, IMHO, cornbread cooked in a cast iron skillet, cannot be beat. :hungry:

:amen: :hungry:
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CJP56 said:
Cast iron skillets are the best. With proper care, they will last through several generations. They also put minute amounts of iron into the food, and that is good for you.

I heard a sermon by our beloved and departed Lester Roloff and he was giving cooking in Aluminum cookware the dickens! He said it is sin! One might say, "That is crazy," but he said, aluminum cookware leaks small amounts of aluminum into your food and it slowly poisons you, and your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit, and you are sinning against the Lord in not taking care of your body.

I don't want to get off track of this good thread on cast iron cookware, but I thought that was interesting.

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I just pre-ordered a 5-piece set of enameled cast-iron cookware by Range Kleen, from Mercola.com, for $149. It won't be shipped until June 30th, because the last shipment they received was snapped up almost immediately after they received it. I'm looking forward to receiving it, though, and cooking with it. We do have one cast-iron skillet, though, and nothing is better for searing meat.

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I love cooking in a cast-iron skillet, but I do have a question: what's the best way to clean them?

My wife says, put hot water in it to soak if it has anything stuck on. Then pour out hot water, scrub pan with a copper (metal) scouring pad under running hot water until surface is completely clean. Then, she dries with a paper towel, thoroughly. She puts one to two teaspoons of vegetable (or olive) oil in pan, rubs it in with a paper towel. She says she massages it in like you would lotion until there is no sitting oil left. Sometimes if the oven is still hot, she will stick it in the oven while it is cooling down, this further seasons the cast iron. If the oven is not on, she just hangs it in its place.

Though detergent may work for Bro. John, the Lodge Cast Iron Company tells you to initially use hot soapy water to wash off any factory residue, but after that you are to use no dish detergent because this will remove the seasoned coating that keeps it from rusting. If you do use soap, you need to re-season which means to rub in the oil and place in oven at low temp for about an hour. You might have to do this several times to get a good season back on it.

We have a friend who moved to a country piece of property and found a cast iron skillet, half buried in the ground, bumpy with rust. She scrubbed and scrapped with metal brush and steel wool until all rust was removed. She seasoned it and uses it to this day. When my wife saw her skillet, she was impressed at how nicely seasoned it was (smooth, and dark black.) She mention how nice it looked and then learned where it came from.

ALSO, I bought her a belated :eek birthday present today. It is 'A Skillet Full, of Traditional Southern Lodge Cast Iron Recipes and Memories.' It is put out by South Pittsburgh, TN Historic Preservation Society, hometown of the Lodge Manufacturing Company. ISBN 0-9677985-4-X

Tonight we are making the following in our cast iron:

Texas Beef Skillet

1 lb lean ground beef
3/4 cup onion diced
1- 1lb can on tomatoes cut up
1- 15 oz. can of kidney beans juice and all
3/4 cup uncooked rice
3 tbs chopped green pepper
1and 1/2 tsp. chili powder
1/2 tsp garlic salt
3/4 cup grated mild cheddar cheese

Brown meat and onion in cast iron skillet, stir in next 6 ingredients, 3/4 cup water, a 1/2 tsp salt. Bring to a simmer, cover with a lid or a stoneware dinner plate turned upsided down. Simmer 20 minutes, stir often, sprinkle cheese on top when done. Recover until cheese is melted. Serves 6 (We double this recipe for our family.)

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Thanks for the cleaning tips, Preacher Ben. :lol Much appreciated. What do you consider a "low temp" for seasoning the cookware in the oven?

Oh and John81, I'll try to remember to let you know how the enameled cast-iron cookware works for us once we get it -- about 3 months from now. :wink

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I'm puzzled by all of this attention to "seasoning" your cast-iron cook-ware. I've heard so many people say it too. All the way from every manufacturer I know to every one that I talk to today. They all say the same thing, and that is that it needs to be seasoned, although some use the word "cured".

The problem is that we used nothing else at home growing up (that was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back :lol::lol::lol::lol: ) and we never did any seasoning or curing to them. We washed them in the hottest, soapiest, most detergent-y water I could muster, and I was the dish-washer. My younger sister did the drying. Then they were put back into the oven for storage as we didn't have enough cupboard space for all of our stuff. We had a whole set of cast-iron cookery, from little ones to great big and deep ones. They were the very best. They brought a fortune at the sale. :lol

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Not everyone is fortunate enough to inherit "preseasoned" cast iron. Still others think that black cookware is "dirty" and will scour it until it is shiny! Or perhaps you will find a skillet buried in the yard that looks like a rusty throw-away.

If you have rusty cast iron it can be revived by sanding away the rust and then reseasoning it. If you have new cast iron that came from the manufacturere all shiny and new, you will need to season it.

Unseasoned cast iron will turn everything you cook in it black. So people think it is awful and won't have anything to do with it. If you have such a set of cookware, either unseasoned or rusty, that you do not want to mess with, please pm me and I will give you my shipping address! :lol

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