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      James Foley
       
      I Corinthians 11:17-34: "Now in this that I declare unto you I praise you not, that ye come together not for the better, but for the worse. For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it. For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you. When ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat the Lord's Supper. For in eating every one taketh before other his own supper: and one is hungry, and another is drunken. What? have ye not houses to eat and to drink in? or despise ye the church of God, and shame them that have not? What shall I say to you? shall I praise you in this? I praise you not. For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread: And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me. For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do show the Lord's death till he come. Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord. But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup. For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body. For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep. For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged. But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world. Wherefore, my brethren, when ye come together to eat, tarry one for another. And if any man hunger, let him eat at home; that ye come not together unto condemnation. And the rest will I set in order when I come."

      INTRODUCTION

      Historic Baptists, true Baptists, have believed in and still believe in closed communion. Baptists impose upon themselves the same restrictions that they impose on others concerning the Lord’s Supper. Baptists have always insisted that it is the Lord’s Table, not theirs; and He alone has the right to say who shall sit at His table. No amount of so called brotherly love, or ecumenical spirit, should cause us to invite to His table those who have not complied with the requirements laid down plainly in His inspired Word. With respect to Bible doctrines we must always use the scripture as our guide and practice. For Baptists, two of the most important doctrines are Baptism and The Lord’s Supper. These are the only two doctrines we recognize as Church Ordinances. The Bible is very clear in teaching how these doctrines are to be practiced and by whom.

      We only have two ordinances that we must never compromise or we risk our very existence, they are Baptism and The Lord’s Supper.

      The moment we deviate from the precise method God has prescribed we have started down the slippery slope of error. True Baptists have held fast to the original doctrine of The Lord’s Supper from the time of Christ and the Apostles.

      Unfortunately, in this day of what the Bible describes as the age of luke warmness, Baptists are becoming careless in regard to strictly following the pattern laid out for us in Scripture. Many of our Bible colleges are graduating otherwise sincere, Godly and dedicated pastors and teachers who have not been taught the very strict, biblical requirements that surround the Lord’s Supper. Any Bible college that neglects to teach its students the differences surrounding Closed Communion, Close Communion and Open Communion is not simply short changing its students; it is also not equipping their students to carry on sound Bible traditions. The result is men of God and churches that fall into error. And as we will see, this is serious error.

      Should we as Baptists ignore the restrictions made by our Lord and Master? NO! When we hold to the restrictions placed upon the Lord’s Supper by our Master, we are defending the "faith which was once delivered to the saints" Jude 3.

      The Lord’s Supper is rigidly restricted and I will show this in the following facts:

      IT IS RESTRICTED AS TO PLACE

      A. I Corinthians 11:18 says, "When ye come together in the church." This does not mean the church building; they had none. In other words, when the church assembles. The supper is to be observed by the church, in church capacity. Again this does not mean the church house. Ekklesia, the Greek word for church, means assembly. "When ye come together in the church," is when the church assembles.

      B. When we say church we mean an assembly of properly baptized believers. Acts 2:41-42: "Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls. And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers."

      The church is made up of saved people who are baptized by immersion. In the Bible, belief precedes baptism. That’s the Bible way.

      Acts 8:12-13, "But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women. Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized, he continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles and signs which were done."

      When we say properly baptized, we mean immersed. No unbeliever should take the Lord’s supper, and no non-immersed believer should take the supper. Those who are sprinkled are not baptized and cannot receive the supper. The Greek word for baptize is baptizo, and it always means to immerse.

      "In every case where communion is referred to, or where it may possibly have been administered, the believers had been baptized Acts 2:42; 8:12; 8:38; 10:47; 6:14-15; 18:8; 20:7. Baptism comes before communion, just as repentance and faith precede baptism".

      C. The Lord’s Supper is for baptized believers in church capacity: "When ye come together in the church," again not a building, but the assembly of the properly baptized believers.

      D. The fact that the Lord’s Supper is a church ordinance, to be observed in church capacity, is pointed out by the fact that it is for those who have been immersed and added to the fellowship of the church.

      E. The Lord’s Supper is never spoken of in connection with individuals. When it is referred to, it is only referred to in reference to baptized believers in local church capacity I Cor. 11:20-26).

      I want to quote Dr. W.W. Hamilton,

      "The individual administration of the ordinance has no Bible warrant and is a relic of Romanism. The Lord’s Supper is a church ordinance, and anything which goes beyond or comes short of this fails for want of scriptural example or command".

      “The practice of taking a little communion kit to hospitals, nursing homes, etc. is unscriptural and does not follow the scriptural example.”

      IT IS RESTRICTED TO A UNITED CHURCH

      A. The Bible in I Cor. 11:18 is very strong in condemning divisions around the Lord’s table. For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it.
      19 For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.
      20 When ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat the Lord's supper.

      There were no less than four divisions in the Corinthian church.
      I Cor. 1:12: "Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ."

      Because of these divisions, it was impossible for them to scripturally eat the Lord’s Supper. Division in the local church is reason to hold off observing the Lord’s Supper. But there are also other reasons to forego taking the Lord’s Supper. If there is gross sin in the membership we do not take it. Here is scriptural evidence for this: 1Co 5:7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our Passover is sacrificed for us:
      8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth. 9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:
      10 Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. 11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

      B. At this point, I want to ask these questions: Are there not doctrinal divisions among the many denominations? Is it not our doctrinal differences that cause us to be separate religious bodies?

      IT IS RESTRICTED BY DOCTRINE

      A. Those in the early church at Jerusalem who partook "continued stedfastly in the apostles’ doctrine" Acts 2:42. And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.

      B. Those that do not hold to apostolic truth are not to partake. This means there is to be discipline in the local body. How can you discipline those who do not belong to the local body? You can’t. The clear command of scripture is to withdraw fellowship from those who are not doctrinally sound.

      II Thes 3:6: "Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us."
      Rom. 16:17: "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them."
      To commune together means to have the same doctrine.
      II Thes. 2:15: "Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle."
      II John 10-11: "If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds."

      C. Some Baptists in our day have watered down this doctrine by practicing what they call “Close Communion.” By this they mean that they believe that members of another Baptist church may take communion with us because they are of the same beliefs. Once again, this is unscriptural.

      The welcome to the Lord's Table should not be extended beyond the discipline of the local church. When we take the Lord’s Supper there is supposed to be no gross sin among us and no divisions among us. We have no idea of the spiritual condition of another church’s members. If there is sin or division in the case of this other church’s members, we have no way of knowing it. We cannot discipline them because they are not members of our church. This is why we practice “Closed” communion, meaning it is restricted solely to our church membership. 
      So then, in closing I would like to reiterate the three different ideas concerning the Lord’s Supper and who is to take it. 
      Closed Communion = Only members of a single local church. 
      Close Communion = Members of like faith and order may partake. 
      Open Communion = If you claim to be a Christian, or simply attending the service, you may partake. 
      It is no small thing to attempt to change that which was implemented by our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. 
      Mt. 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen. 
      Many of our Baptist churches have a real need to consider the gravity of the act of observing The Lord’s Supper. It is not a light thing that is to be taken casually or without regard to the spiritual condition of ourselves or our church.
      1Co. 11:27 Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.

       28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.

       29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.

       30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.

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25 minutes ago, Bouncing Bill said:

Alabama governor, Kay Ivey, says 'it is time to start blaming unvaccinated folks' as pandemic worsens. 

When asked what it would take to get people to get the vaccination she replied;

"I don't know. You tell me. Folks [are] supposed to have common sense. But it's time to start blaming the unvaccinated folks, not the regular folks. It's the unvaccinated folks that are letting us down."

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/07/23/alabama-governor-covid-vaccinations-500638

How divisive of the governor for her statement, and of you for trying to make it more of an issue than it is. Personally, I don't care what the AL Governor thinks, and I go to AL at least four times a year! And, to be honest, I don't  care what anyone thinks about my wife and I deciding to decline the vaccine. The survival rate for the Wuhan Flu is too high for it to be considered a true pandemic.

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26 minutes ago, Bouncing Bill said:

blaming the unvaccinated folks, not the regular folks

A dangerous precedent for government officials to be thinking in these terms. borders on newspeak and a precursor terminology that dictators use to justify division and deadly force against the populace.

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12 minutes ago, John Young said:

A dangerous precedent for government officials to be thinking in these terms. borders on newspeak and a precursor terminology that dictators use to justify division and deadly force against the populace.

Just curious John. When should be held responsible for their actions or inactions?

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39 Deaths Reported from the coronavirus in the full 5,344 cases reported, But, the State of SC is still harping on vaccinations. How blind these people are!  The death rate to the #'s reported comes to a mortality rate of .00072979. The states response is truly ridiculous!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/more-than-90percent-of-south-carolina-covid-19-cases-deaths-in-june-were-among-the-unvaccinated-dhec-says/ar-AAMu3RC?ocid=chromentpnews

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Godly,  Righteous Doctors (licensed), and laymen,  all agree:  the states response ,  the governments pandemic scares,  the medical idolatry,  is ridiculous ! 

 

This is just like Athens, in the Bible ?   

The medical idolatry groups, the political idolatry groups,  the social idolatry groups,  the educational , financial, and commercial idolatry groups all having their own

cliques,  their own altars for human sacrifice,  using souls as barter - chattel, as the Bible Says Clearly.

 

And the Truly Righteous Group,  In Chrst Jesus,   watching as a thousand fall on one side,  and ten thousand fall on the other side,  and it does not come near us,  just as God's Word Says Plainly.

As Always,  the last two thousand years,  continuing until Jesus Returns,

the Godly Righteous Ones get persecuted and run out of town/ forums/ sites/ churches,

the same as in the New Testament.

As Jesus continues to Instruct :  when they persecute you in one place,  flee (run don't look back) to the next.   They will suffer the wrath or judgment of God as written, those who oppose Him and His disciples,  those who do not give freely what is needed,  and will cross a desert and an ocean to make ONE convert who then becomes twice the devil as themselves.

When will Justice,  God's Justice,  Stop the Ridiculous Government and Medical and Religious idolatry?  

On the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God.

Romans 2:5 "But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;" King James Version (KJV)

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8 hours ago, John Young said:

A dangerous precedent for government officials to be thinking in these terms. borders on newspeak and a precursor terminology that dictators use to justify division and deadly force against the populace.

Just curious John. When should be held responsible for their actions or inactions?

It is interesting but not surprising how people change their tune about vaccinations after they have caught COVID. 

Conservative radio host who downplayed vaccines seriously ill with COVID-19 and his family is asking people to 'please go get vaccinated!'

Watch the video.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/23/us/radio-host-vaccine-trnd/index.html

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16 minutes ago, Bouncing Bill said:

Just curious John. When should be held responsible for their actions or inactions?

It is interesting but not surprising how people change their tune about vaccinations after they have caught COVID. 

Conservative radio host who downplayed vaccines seriously ill with COVID-19 and his family is asking people to 'please go get vaccinated!'

Watch the video.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/23/us/radio-host-vaccine-trnd/index.html

Few and far between BB. That's the point!

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2 hours ago, Bouncing Bill said:

Just curious John. When should be held responsible for their actions or inactions?

I could ask the same for government officials who think they can intrude on individual liberty. Sure I think everyone should get the vaccine who are advised by there doctor and those who don't can bare the responsibility for their own health and the ability or inability to receive care based on what is available but the government should not be allowed to force vacine upon them.

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When are people scared ?

 

It's curious -  when people died of heart attack,  falling from a ladder,   seizures,  etc etc etc

 

it was/is/ , as revealed by the President last year, and thousands of doctors in the last two years, and reporters who found out, 

called a covid death on the death certificate also,  to get over a thousand dollars more money.

Note that it is still cruious -  when people get sick from air pollution,  pheumania,  heart troubles,

but do not die ,  they can be scared by the medical by TELLING THEM that they have covid and are in danger.   (total make up).  And then by making them more ill with more toxins injected into them, telling them it will help them ! 

THUS,  they believe the lie, as foretold in the Bible,  and call the lie 'truth'; and the actual truth,  if they hear it,  they call a lie, because that's what they are told to do.

People are not scared when they seek and hear the truth,  no matter what is happening.

They are scared when they are lied to,  and believe the lie.  They should be scared also,  not of those who can (and do) kill the body, 

but of the One , The Eternal One,  Who can destroy the soul as well as the body.   When they believe the lie,  they are opposing The Eternal One,  they are opposing Jesus,  they are opposing all Scripture.

 


excerpt from someone upset by the lies from the offical sources:
"I agree, God will get involved....the issue I am having is the deception and keeping us in the dark about what they are doing behind closed doors....well our only refuge is to stay focused on Him and trust in His Covenant Word to protect ..."

 

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4 hours ago, Bouncing Bill said:

It is interesting but not surprising how people change their tune about vaccinations after they have caught COVID. 

Is this an honest statement? Have you or anyone you know caught Covid and changed your mind after?

Because that's a particularly stupid sentiment, scientifically speaking. Once you've had Covid, you have natural antibodies, and no need for a vaccine. Even pro-vaxxers should know that if the Covid vaccine works, it only replicates what actual survival of the disease has already done - and done a better job at. We are increasingly finding that vaccine immunity lasts only a number of years, while natural immunity from surviving a disease lasts a lifetime. There are some doctors that suggest that getting the vaccine after catching Covid may actually be quite dangerous. 

I personally know dozens of people who caught Covid (we were not, um, social distancing... 😄), including thirteen seniors. Of those literal dozens (78 and counting), I know of 2 who got the vaccine after - and only because they thought they wouldn't be able to travel without it. The rest are no more pro-vaccine, pro-lockdown, or pro-Covid fear than they were before - because they found that it was only a nasty flu (and sometimes not that nasty) after all. There was only one hospitalization that I heard of in that group - he was 92 - and after he got out, he was right back in church, maskless, singing, and shaking hands. Because he didn't choose to be terrified of something he'd survived.

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Turn off Satan's propaganda and find your facts from news outlets not owned by China's free trade created globalists. You have given your minds over to Satan when you believe anything these Godless reprobates say

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/americas-frontline-doctors-federal-lawsuit-halt-covid-vaccines-cdc-vaccine-deaths/

https://www.wnd.com/2021/07/top-epidemiologist-cdc-undercounting-vaccinated-covid-cases/

Don't give your life away to the wicked friends, make them take it from you for your testimony of Jesus a little later.

 

 

 

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One doctor in here proves that the government and medical establishment are talking out of both sides of their mouthes! It's enfuriating at times....The vax is supposed to work...but yet, there are breakthough infections of Covid. The doctor says that vaccinations ar the way back to normal, yet, even with the vaccines, people who have had them are coming down with the virus. And they're trying to push this vaccine on those of us who have declined for this very reason? Something isn't right with the Government's premise! UGH! And Alabams's governor is just plain stupid trying to blame unvaccinated for the alleged pandemic continuing! She's divisive and shouldn't be in office when she tries to divide people like this. Her administration in her state can't convince people to get the vax because they KNOW that it's not a necessity and is not truly going to protect them from anything. Like I told her in my email..."I trust God more than any Government agency, ma'am!"

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/local-doctors-react-to-gov-iveys-“unvaccinated-people”-comments/ar-AAMvcMl?ocid=chromentpnews

6 hours ago, Bouncing Bill said:

Just curious John. When should be held responsible for their actions or inactions?

It is interesting but not surprising how people change their tune about vaccinations after they have caught COVID. 

Conservative radio host who downplayed vaccines seriously ill with COVID-19 and his family is asking people to 'please go get vaccinated!'

Watch the video.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/23/us/radio-host-vaccine-trnd/index.html

The problem with your premise, BB, is that only a handful of people are changing their minds after getting Covid. My niece in Illinois just recovered from the Wuhan Flu, and she wasn't vaccinated. Neither were my sister (her mother) and her husband. They both have had Covid as well, and they are declining the vaccination. My mother who is in her late 70s also has declined to be vaccinated. We trust God, who numbers our days, far more than we trust the government on this. God knows when we will die. We don't need help from the government in reaching this state!

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5 hours ago, Salyan said:

Is this an honest statement? Have you or anyone you know caught Covid and changed your mind after?

Because that's a particularly stupid sentiment, scientifically speaking. Once you've had Covid, you have natural antibodies, and no need for a vaccine. Even pro-vaxxers should know that if the Covid vaccine works, it only replicates what actual survival of the disease has already done - and done a better job at. We are increasingly finding that vaccine immunity lasts only a number of years, while natural immunity from surviving a disease lasts a lifetime. There are some doctors that suggest that getting the vaccine after catching Covid may actually be quite dangerous. 

I personally know dozens of people who caught Covid (we were not, um, social distancing... 😄), including thirteen seniors. Of those literal dozens (78 and counting), I know of 2 who got the vaccine after - and only because they thought they wouldn't be able to travel without it. The rest are no more pro-vaccine, pro-lockdown, or pro-Covid fear than they were before - because they found that it was only a nasty flu (and sometimes not that nasty) after all. There was only one hospitalization that I heard of in that group - he was 92 - and after he got out, he was right back in church, maskless, singing, and shaking hands. Because he didn't choose to be terrified of something he'd survived.

If you had watched the video and read the article you would see they are encouraging others who have no caught COVID to take the vaccination. 

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4 hours ago, BrotherTony said:

One doctor in here proves that the government and medical establishment are talking out of both sides of their mouthes! I.....

Like I told her in my email..."I trust God more than any Government agency, ma'am!"

...The problem with your premise, BB, is that only a handful of people are changing their minds after getting Covid. 

Before Jesus was born,  the governments of earth SINNED.  (Lied, Profited, Greedy,Warred))

During Jesus' Life on earth, the governments of earth SINNED.  (Lied, Profited, Greedy, Warred)

Since Jesus' Ascended to Heaven, the governments of earth SINNED. (Lied, Profited, Greedy, Warred).

Today the governmetns of earth SIN.  Lie,  Profit, Greedy, Warring. 

1 hour ago, Bouncing Bill said:

If you had watched the video and read the article you would see they are encouraging others who have no caught COVID to take the vaccination. 

"encouraging others" to SIN is not encouraging to Christians. 

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There have been people protesting vaccines as long as there have been vaccines. They were wrong in the past. They are wrong in the present. They will be wrong in the future.

If they had gotten their way we would still have no protection for:

Smallpox

Chickenpox

Measles

Mumps 

Rubella

Tetanus

Hepatitis B

Flu

Rabies

Meningococci ACWY

Just to name a few. Aren't you glad the anti vaccine people failed in years past?

 

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The vaccine manufacturers are the ones who make those false claims.  

Those opposing vaccines since the beginning were right all along.

When the anti-vax people "failed",  more people got poisoned ,  more people got sick,  more people died,  and are dying from the vaccines,  and from the system that made the healthy options illegal.

The medical system has made up new disease names to cover their errors (or to try to).

As a result of vaccines the last two years,  promoted by gill gates,  over 30,000 people in Africa got polio,  from the vaccines,  after there had been not even one case in many years.

Only they had to call it a disease with a name instead of polio,  to protect the profits made from the drugs.

The drugs do not work with the body,  they never have.

The body naturally rejects the drugs.

The honest people naturally reject the drugs,  whenever and every place that they know the truth.

7 hours ago, wretched said:

Turn off Satan's propaganda ....

Don't give your life away to the wicked friends, make them take it from you for your testimony of Jesus a little later.

BB,  stop listening to your wicked friends.  The ones who you put your trust in all these decades lied to you from the start.

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Our present and previous  administration has failed us with the vaccine. They turned the vaccine into a political agenda and Biden lied about the vaccine just the other day in the CNN town hall meeting (not the part where he rambles about the men on the moon and aliens), and his administrations has not been transparent about the vaccine. It's all been about votes. Sad!!!

Thus the hesitancy. I honesty believe this would be different about the vaccine if our politicians told the truth from the beginning. 

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I'm not anti-vax (we researched each vaccine before we gave to our kids and some vaccines we did not allow them to get, they don't need 80 by the time they are 8). I am against government over-control.  Our government ignores the thousand of illegal immigrants crossing without checking for covid, but demand American citizens get it? The vaccine is not pushed for your safety, it is pushed with your vote. 

I know @Bouncing Bill will disagree and I have 0 problem with that. After all, I'm dumb 🤣

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54 minutes ago, PastorMatt said:

I'm not anti-vax (we researched each vaccine before we gave to our kids and some vaccines we did not allow them to get, they don't need 80 by the time they are 8). I am against government over-control.  Our government ignores the thousand of illegal immigrants crossing without checking for covid, but demand American citizens get it? The vaccine is not pushed for your safety, it is pushed with your vote. 

I know @Bouncing Bill will disagree and I have 0 problem with that. After all, I'm dumb 🤣

No, it has nothing to do with my vote. It has to do with health and protection of me and the lives of others. I trust science more than pronouncements by conspiracy theorists on the Internet. I don't know which vaccines you did now allow your kids to have. That is your choice. 

I did forget in the earlier post to mention we no longer have polio because of vaccines. Polio was THE HUGE FEAR in the lives of kids when I was a kid.  I cannot put into words the relief I felt when the first vaccine came out. My wife says that she was terrified of shots when she was a kid, but wanted to be the first in line for the polio vaccine. The thought of having to live in an Iron Lung was terrifying. Thanks to the vaccine that terror was removed. I know as late as 2020 there was one person in the USA still living in an Iron Lung. 

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https://www.google.com/search?q=polio+machines&rlz=1C1RXQR_enUS937US937&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&sqi=2&ved=2ahUKEwj96pyx4_vxAhVBMqwKHXMsCP4Q_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=1260&bih=636#imgrc=WtzMUcrzvBjhZM

Read the article, 'The Man in the Iron Lung'.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/may/26/last-iron-lung-paul-alexander-polio-coronavirus

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    • Razor

      “Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to reform (or pause and reflect).”
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    • Razor

      “Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to reform (or pause and reflect).”
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      Psalms 139 Psalm 139:9-10
      9. If I take the wings of the morning, and dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea; 10. even there shall thy hand lead me, and thy righthand shall hold me. 
       
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    • Bro. West  »  Pastor Scott Markle

      Advanced revelation, then...prophecy IS advanced revelation in the context of the apostles.
      I really do not know where you are going with this. The Bible itself has revelations and prophecies and not all revelations are prophecies.
      Paul had things revealed to him that were hid and unknown that the Gentiles would be fellow heirs.
      How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words, Eph 3:3-9
      And I do not mean this as a Hyper-dispensationalist would, for there were people in Christ before Paul (Rom. 16:7). This is not prophecy for there are none concerning the Church age in the O.T..
      Israel rejected the New Wine (Jesus Christ) and said the Old Wine (law) was better, had they tasted the New Wine there would be no church age or mystery as spoken above. to be revealed.
      It was a revealed mystery. Sure there are things concerning the Gentiles after the this age. And we can now see types in the Old Testament (Boaz and Ruth) concerning a Gentile bride, but this is hindsight.
      Peter could have had a ham sandwich in Acts 2, but he did not know it till later, by revelation. But this has nothing to do with 1John 2;23 and those 10 added words in italics. Where did they get them? Did the violate Pro. 30:6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar. Where did they get this advance revelation? Was it from man, God or the devil?
        I just read your comment and you bypassed what I wrote concerning book arrangement, chapters being added and verse numberings and such. There is no scripture support for these either, should we reject these?
      Happy New Year
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    • Bro. West

      Seeing it is Christ----mas time and I was answering question on Luke 2:33 concerning Jesus, Mary and Joseph . I thought it would be fitting to display a poem i wrote concerning the matter.
      SCRIPTURAL MARY

      I WALK NOT ON WATER NOR CHANGE IT TO WINE
      SO HEARKEN O’ SINNER TO THIS STORY OF MINE
      I, AM A DAUGHTER OF ABRAHAM SINNER BY BIRTH
      A HAND MAID OF LOW ESTATE USED HERE ON EARTH
      MY HAIR IS NOT GENTILE BLOND, I HAVE NOT EYES OF BLUE
      A MOTHER OF MANY CHILDREN A DAUGHTER OF A JEW
      FOR JOSEPH MY HUSBAND DID HONOUR OUR BED
      TO FATHER OUR CHILDREN WHO NOW ARE ALL DEAD
      BUT I SPEAK NOT OF THESE WHO I LOVED SO WELL
      BUT OF THE FIRST BORN WHICH SAVED ME FROM HELL
      MY FLESH SAW CORRUPTION MY BONES THEY DID ROT
      MY PAPS ARE NOT HOLY SO TRUST ME NOT
                                               2
      WHEN I WAS A VIRGIN UNKNOWN BY MAN
      THE ANGEL OF GOD SPOKE OF GOD’S PLAN
      FOR I HAD BEEN CHOSEN A FAVOUR VESSEL OF CLAY
      TO BARE THE SON OF THE HIGHEST BY AN UNUSUAL WAY
      FOR THE SCRIPTURE FORETOLD OF WHAT WAS TO BE
      SO MY WOMB GOD FILLED WHEN HE OVER SHADOW ME
      BUT THE LAW OF MOSES DID DEMAND MY LIFE
      WOULD JOSEPH MY BETROTHED MAKE ME HIS WIFE
      I THOUGHT ON THESE THINGS WITH SO NEEDLESS FEARS
      BUT A DREAM HE RECEIVED ENDED ALL FEARS
      MY FLESH SAW CORRUPTION MY BONES THEY DID ROT
      MY PAPS ARE NOT HOLY SO TRUST ME NOT
                                              3
      THEN MY SOUL DID REJOICE IN GOD MY SAVIOR
      HE SCATTERED THE PROUD AND BLESS ME WITH FAVOR
      O’ THE RICH ARE EMPTY, THE HUNGRY HAVE GOOD THINGS
      FOR THE THRONE OF DAVID WOULD HAVE JESUS THE KING
      BUT BEFORE I DELIVERED THE MAN CHILD OF OLD
      CAESAR WITH TAXES DEMANDED OUR GOLD
      TO THE CITY OF DAVID JOSEPH AND I WENT
      ON A BEAST OF BURDEN OUR STRENGTH NEAR SPEND
      NO ROOM AT An INN, BUT A STABLE WAS FOUND
      WITH STRAW AND DUNG LAID ON THE GROUND
      MY FLESH SAW CORRUPTION MY BONES THEY DID ROT
      MY PAPS ARE NOT HOLY, SO TRUST ME NOT
                                                  4
      MY MATRIX WAS OPEN IN A PLACE SO PROFANE
      FROM THE GLORY OF GLORIES TO A BEGGAR’S DOMAIN
      SO WE WRAPPED THE CHILD GIVEN TO THE HEATHEN A STRANGER
      NO REPUTATION IS SOUGHT TO BE BORN IN A MANGER
      HIS STAR WAS ABOVE US THE HOST OF HEAVEN DID SING
      FOR SHEPHERDS AND WISE MEN WORSHIP ONLY THE KING
      BUT HEROD THAT DEVIL SOUGHT FOR HIS SOUL
      AND MURDER RACHEL’S CHILDREN UNDER TWO YEARS OLD
      BUT JOSEPH MY HUSBAND WAS WARNED IN A DREAM
      SO WE FLED INTO EGYPT BECAUSE OF HIS SCHEME
      MY FLESH SAW CORRUPTION MY BONES THEY DID ROT
      MY PAPS ARE NOT HOLY SO TRUST ME NOT
                                               5
      SO THE GIVER OF LIFE, THE ROCK OF ALL AGES
      GREW UP TO FULFILL THE HOLY PAGES
      HE PREACH WITH AUTHORITY LIKE NONE BEFORE
      PLEASE TRUST HIS WORDS AND NOT THE GREAT WHORE
      HER BLACK ROBE PRIEST FILL THEIR LIPS WITH MY NAME
      WITH BLASPHEMOUS PRAISE, DAMMATION AND SHAME
      THERE ARE NO NAIL PRINTS IN MY HANDS, MY BODY DID NOT ARISE
      NOR, AM A DEMON OF FATIMA FLOATING IN THE SKY
      THERE IS NO DEITY IN MY VEINS FOR ADAM CAME FROM SOD
      FOR I, AM, MOTHER OF THE SON OF MAN NOT THE MOTHER OF GOD
      MY FLESH SAW CORRUPTION MY BONES THEY DID ROT
      MY PAPS ARE NOT HOLY, SO TRUST ME NOT
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      FOR MY SOUL WAS PURCHASED BY GOD UPON THE CROSS
      FOR MY SINS HE DID SUFFER AN UNMEASURABLE COST
      I WILL NOT STEAL HIS GLORY WHO ROSE FROM THE DEAD
      ENDURING SPIT AND THORNS PLACED ON HIS HEAD
      YET, IF YOU WISH TO HONOR ME THEN GIVE ME NONE AT ALL
      BUT TRUST THE LAMB WHO STOOL IN PILATE’S HALL
      CALL NOT ON THIS REDEEMED WOMAN IN YOUR TIME OF FEAR
      FOR I WILL NOT GIVE ANSWER NEITHER WILL I HEAR
      AND WHEN THE BOOKS ARE OPEN AT THE GREAT WHITE THRONE
      I AMEN YOUR DAMNATION THAT TRUST NOT HIM ALONE
      MY FLESH SAW CORRUPTION MY BONES THEY DID ROT
      MY PAPS ARE NOT HOLY, O’ SINNER TRUST ME NOT

                       WRITTEN BY BRO. WEST
       
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