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Just read an interesting article in the August 6th, 2021 issue of THE WEEK. It dealt with GOP politicians switching their view and encouraging people to get their vaccinations. The most interesting sentence read:

Republican leaders see the pandemic's "alarming new math" and have decided they'd rather not "take the blame for killing off their own voters."

DUH, who did they think were being killed off?

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I just read an interesting article where a Conservative Yukon politician got booted out of the party for supporting freedom of choice for Covid injections. We have a federal election in September - I have no clue which party to vote for. They're all in on this removal of our liberties and freedoms.

BB, you do realize that if the right for liberty and freedom of choice is removed, eventually the government will make a decision you don't agree with - and there will be no remaining chance to fight for those freedoms. You better fight for EVERYONE'S freedom of choice now - even those you disagree with - before that freedom is gone for good.

I am a staunch patriot, and never dreamed of leaving Canada, but.... anyone want to sponsor a church pianist/organist to escape this country? :think_smiley_11:

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First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist

Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist

Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist

Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew

Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me

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If places can start to ask for proof of vaccination for Covid 19...we should be able to ask for the following without reserve!

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5 hours ago, Salyan said:

I just read an interesting article where a Conservative Yukon politician got booted out of the party for supporting freedom of choice for Covid injections. We have a federal election in September - I have no clue which party to vote for. They're all in on this removal of our liberties and freedoms.

BB, you do realize that if the right for liberty and freedom of choice is removed, eventually the government will make a decision you don't agree with - and there will be no remaining chance to fight for those freedoms. You better fight for EVERYONE'S freedom of choice now - even those you disagree with - before that freedom is gone for good.

I am a staunch patriot, and never dreamed of leaving Canada, but.... anyone want to sponsor a church pianist/organist to escape this country? :think_smiley_11:

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First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist

Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist

Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist

Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew

Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me

~ att. to Martin Niemoller

If we had more of an opportunity to help people escape the tyrannies of the Canadian government, we would...the problem is that OUR government is becoming just a tyrranical under Biden.

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Michael Kagan, a professor at the University of Nevada, Las Vegas, says the cancerous lymph nodes in his neck are like a "ticking time bomb." But there's little he can do.

MountainView Hospital, where he was scheduled to have his procedure last week, has put all surgeries requiring an overnight stay on hold as Covid-19 case counts and hospitalizations climb, according to a statement from spokesperson Jennifer McDonnell.
"I'm not getting any treatment so on any given day it could spread to another part of my body or it can grow and cause a much bigger problem," Kagan told CNN's Brianna Keilar on Tuesday. "I'm just living with a time bomb and I'm just letting it tick down, basically."
 
With Covid-19 case numbers surging across the United States and many unvaccinated Americans falling ill, the number of available hospital beds has been dwindling in parts of the country. Some hospitals now report their intensive care units, which are usually reserved for the most critically ill patients, are full -- a grim reality that's forcing health care leaders to make tough decisions, whether that be redirecting new patients to other facilities, canceling surgeries or creating makeshift ICU beds in the middle of emergency rooms.

 

The US remains among nations with the highest rate of new Covid-19 cases, driven mostly by a surge in the South, where many states are lagging in getting people vaccinated against the coronavirus.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/14/health/us-coronavirus-saturday/index.html

 

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The Obama Variant has just been unleashed upon the world. So far, 74 of the chosen Elites to his Hunger Games-esque, drug induced, birthday orgy have come down with the Wu Flu. They've become "super-spreaders". 

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53 minutes ago, SureWord said:

The Obama Variant has just been unleashed upon the world. So far, 74 of the chosen Elites to his Hunger Games-esque, drug induced, birthday orgy have come down with the Wu Flu. They've become "super-spreaders". 

The unvaccinated are and will cause the death of children who need help but cannot get it because of overcrowded hospitals.  

A Texas judge spelled out the dire COVID-19 situation for young people in the state on Friday, telling a news conference that “in Dallas, we have zero ICU beds left for children.”

"That means if your child's in a car wreck, if your child has a congenital heart defect or something and needs an ICU bed, or more likely if they have COVID and need an ICU bed, we don't have one. Your child will wait for another child to die," Jenkins said. "Your child will just not get on the ventilator, your child will be CareFlighted to Temple or Oklahoma City or wherever we can find them a bed, but they won't be getting one here unless one clears."

“Your child will wait for another child to die,” he bluntly pointed out.
 
Watch the video. 
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1 hour ago, Bouncing Bill said:

The unvaccinated are and will cause the death of children who need help but cannot get it because of overcrowded hospitals.  

A Texas judge spelled out the dire COVID-19 situation for young people in the state on Friday, telling a news conference that “in Dallas, we have zero ICU beds left for children.”

"That means if your child's in a car wreck, if your child has a congenital heart defect or something and needs an ICU bed, or more likely if they have COVID and need an ICU bed, we don't have one. Your child will wait for another child to die," Jenkins said. "Your child will just not get on the ventilator, your child will be CareFlighted to Temple or Oklahoma City or wherever we can find them a bed, but they won't be getting one here unless one clears."

“Your child will wait for another child to die,” he bluntly pointed out.
 
Watch the video. 

What's this have to do with the Obama-21 virus?

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1 hour ago, Bouncing Bill said:

The unvaccinated are and will cause the death of children who need help but cannot get it because of overcrowded hospitals.  

A Texas judge spelled out the dire COVID-19 situation for young people in the state on Friday, telling a news conference that “in Dallas, we have zero ICU beds left for children.”

"That means if your child's in a car wreck, if your child has a congenital heart defect or something and needs an ICU bed, or more likely if they have COVID and need an ICU bed, we don't have one. Your child will wait for another child to die," Jenkins said. "Your child will just not get on the ventilator, your child will be CareFlighted to Temple or Oklahoma City or wherever we can find them a bed, but they won't be getting one here unless one clears."

“Your child will wait for another child to die,” he bluntly pointed out.
 
Watch the video. 

BB...can't you be HONEST just one day of your life? You, like the Federal government, seem to like trying to instill fear into people. The UNVACCINATED are being proven over and over not to be any more responsible for the spread than those who've already had the vaccination and are spreading it, dying in the hospitals fully vaccinated. Get real!

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1 minute ago, BrotherTony said:

BB...can't you be HONEST just one day of your life? You, like the Federal government, seem to like trying to instill fear into people. The UNVACCINATED are being proven over and over not to be any more responsible for the spread than those who've already had the vaccination and are spreading it, dying in the hospitals fully vaccinated. Get real!

Respectfully you are wrong. The unvaccinated are the ones filling over 90% of the hospital beds and this leads to no beds or personnel for people with other needs. Can't you be honest and accept the glaring facts?

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1 minute ago, Bouncing Bill said:

Respectfully you are wrong. The unvaccinated are the ones filling over 90% of the hospital beds and this leads to no beds or personnel for people with other needs. Can't you be honest and accept the glaring facts?

Whose "glaring facts?" The GOVERNMENT who has been lying to us for years, and ESPECIALLY the last 20 months? I see all you can post in rebuttal are liberal sources that not many here will trust. You couldn't post a CONSERVATIVE, HONEST site if it bit you on the behind! The glaring fact is that there is a 99+% recovery rate from ANY of the strains thus far in this alleged "pandemic." Is the virus real...of course...only a FOOL would say it isn't. Is a vaccine necessary, especially if it's being so heavily promoted and pushed on people by the government who has been lying to us???? NO, it IS NOT. Many who have been vaccinated fully are dying, and even your favorite liberal, left-wing sources are reporting it. Strange you're too blind to see it, or too obtuse to admit it!

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2 minutes ago, BrotherTony said:

Whose "glaring facts?" The GOVERNMENT who has been lying to us for years, and ESPECIALLY the last 20 months? I see all you can post in rebuttal are liberal sources that not many here will trust. You couldn't post a CONSERVATIVE, HONEST site if it bit you on the behind! The glaring fact is that there is a 99+% recovery rate from ANY of the strains thus far in this alleged "pandemic." Is the virus real...of course...only a FOOL would say it isn't. Is a vaccine necessary, especially if it's being so heavily promoted and pushed on people by the government who has been lying to us???? NO, it IS NOT. Many who have been vaccinated fully are dying, and even your favorite liberal, left-wing sources are reporting it. Strange you're too blind to see it, or too obtuse to admit it!

That does not negate the fact that the hospitals are filled with unvaccinated people. Less than 1% of the people vaccinated end up in the hospital. That means that 99% of the beds are taken up by unvaccinated  people. Beds filled with unvaccinated mean there are fewer or no beds for people facing other medical issues. The unvaccinated are responsible. This isn't politics. This is life. 

It is totally selfish for a person to remain unvaccinated and possible infections others and children. 

Be honest BT. Start facing the real issue.

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sWith all due respect...the real issue is that YOUR group of fanatical people are trying to take away the rights of those who don't want to inject clearly dangerous chemicals into their bodies...chemicals which don't protect anyone from anything. People who have been vaccinated are still getting the virus, passing it along just like the unvaccinated. More proof that the people of this country, and of the world, are being played by the governments. They are living in fear of something that doesn't need to be feared. I'm ALWAYS honest...I don't have to rely on left-wing radical MSM sites for my information. I have family and friends in medicine, and I definitely would trust them before I'd trust our government. At least the people I know don't have to try and bribe us to stay unvaccinated. They don't even have to speak for the most part. It's clearly evident from the recovery rate, infection rate, and the unwillilngness and inability of our medical establishment and government to come clean on the TRUE COVID DEATHS, and why so many who didn't even have any signs of the virus were listed as having the virus on their death certificates. We have at least one in our family that had this happen, and a friend who died in a motorcycle accident who had Covid listed as his cause of death when it SO CLEARLY wasn't!

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34 minutes ago, BrotherTony said:

sWith all due respect...the real issue is that YOUR group of fanatical people are trying to take away the rights of those who don't want to inject clearly dangerous chemicals into their bodies...chemicals which don't protect anyone from anything. People who have been vaccinated are still getting the virus, passing it along just like the unvaccinated. More proof that the people of this country, and of the world, are being played by the governments. They are living in fear of something that doesn't need to be feared. I'm ALWAYS honest...I don't have to rely on left-wing radical MSM sites for my information. I have family and friends in medicine, and I definitely would trust them before I'd trust our government. At least the people I know don't have to try and bribe us to stay unvaccinated. They don't even have to speak for the most part. It's clearly evident from the recovery rate, infection rate, and the unwillilngness and inability of our medical establishment and government to come clean on the TRUE COVID DEATHS, and why so many who didn't even have any signs of the virus were listed as having the virus on their death certificates. We have at least one in our family that had this happen, and a friend who died in a motorcycle accident who had Covid listed as his cause of death when it SO CLEARLY wasn't!

What about people's right to not be infected because of people refusing to be vaccinated? 

But that has nothing to do with the current topic which is that the unvaccinated are taking up so many beds that hospitals cannot perform surgeries, take care of children, cannot respond to emergencies. All because of the unvaccinated.

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21 minutes ago, Bouncing Bill said:

What about people's right to not be infected because of people refusing to be vaccinated? 

But that has nothing to do with the current topic which is that the unvaccinated are taking up so many beds that hospitals cannot perform surgeries, take care of children, cannot respond to emergencies. All because of the unvaccinated.

You just can't seem to admit that the VACCINATED are spreading the virus as well. Nobody KNOWS for certain that the unvaccinated are the culprits, and your continually using that mantra doesn't make it so.

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So, please tell me once again how this ISN'T all about the money!!! 1.2 million people got an UNAUTHORIZED third vaccination....The CDC said not all systems were up and available for verification....LIKELY STORY!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/12-million-americans-got-unauthorized-3rd-covid-shot-cdc-says/vi-AANiXQE?ocid=chromentpnews

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22 minutes ago, BrotherTony said:

So, please tell me once again how this ISN'T all about the money!!! 1.2 million people got an UNAUTHORIZED third vaccination....The CDC said not all systems were up and available for verification....LIKELY STORY!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/12-million-americans-got-unauthorized-3rd-covid-shot-cdc-says/vi-AANiXQE?ocid=chromentpnews

Off topic. We are talking about hospitals filled with unvaccinated ill people who have COVID and their taking beds  that end up costing other, including children their lives. The vaccinated would not have gotten sick if everyone had gotten their vaccination. 

As the headline reads:

Republican leaders fiddle while Covid burns through their own supporters. 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/aug/14/republican-leaders-fiddle-while-covid-burns-through-their-own-supporters

 

It is not very wise to follow a policy that put your own supporters lives in danger. Right?

 

And...

Mississippi requested outside help in securing enough medical staff to meet demand as the delta variant fills hospitals with mostly unvaccinated Covid patients.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/13/mississippi-seeks-doctors-nurses-and-ventilators-as-covid-patients-pack-icu-beds.html

Face it, it is the unvaccinated that is causing the overcrowding problem. 

2 hours ago, BrotherTony said:

sWith all due respect...the real issue is that YOUR group of fanatical people are trying to take away the rights of those who don't want to inject clearly dangerous chemicals into their bodies...chemicals which don't protect anyone from anything. People who have been vaccinated are still getting the virus, passing it along just like the unvaccinated. More proof that the people of this country, and of the world, are being played by the governments. They are living in fear of something that doesn't need to be feared. I'm ALWAYS honest...I don't have to rely on left-wing radical MSM sites for my information. I have family and friends in medicine, and I definitely would trust them before I'd trust our government. At least the people I know don't have to try and bribe us to stay unvaccinated. They don't even have to speak for the most part. It's clearly evident from the recovery rate, infection rate, and the unwillilngness and inability of our medical establishment and government to come clean on the TRUE COVID DEATHS, and why so many who didn't even have any signs of the virus were listed as having the virus on their death certificates. We have at least one in our family that had this happen, and a friend who died in a motorcycle accident who had Covid listed as his cause of death when it SO CLEARLY wasn't!

What about the right of people to be protected from people who follow foolish practices and put others at risk. 

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Again, BB...NOT off topic...this is a MERGED thread...get used to it. The only thing I have to face is the ignorance of your generation and the fear that they have of a virus that has a recovery rate that is higher than most virus'...LOL

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5 minutes ago, BrotherTony said:

Again, BB...NOT off topic...this is a MERGED thread...get used to it. The only thing I have to face is the ignorance of your generation and the fear that they have of a virus that has a recovery rate that is higher than most virus'...LOL

What percentage of corvid hospital beds are filled with unvaccinated people?

What about the rights of people not to be infected by people who will not get a vaccination?

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5 minutes ago, Bouncing Bill said:

What percentage of corvid hospital beds are filled with unvaccinated people?

What about the rights of people not to be infected by people who will not get a vaccination?

What about YOU get real and admit that people who have had the vaccination are just as big of carriers as the unvaccinated...Several of the liberal news outlets you've used have stated the same...so why not just admit it, BB?? The percentage being reported by your beloved leftist outlets is ALWAYS going to be inaccurate...they've proven that time and again throughout this power grab!

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