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      Closed Communion
      James Foley
       
      I Corinthians 11:17-34: "Now in this that I declare unto you I praise you not, that ye come together not for the better, but for the worse. For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it. For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you. When ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat the Lord's Supper. For in eating every one taketh before other his own supper: and one is hungry, and another is drunken. What? have ye not houses to eat and to drink in? or despise ye the church of God, and shame them that have not? What shall I say to you? shall I praise you in this? I praise you not. For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread: And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me. For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do show the Lord's death till he come. Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord. But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup. For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body. For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep. For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged. But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world. Wherefore, my brethren, when ye come together to eat, tarry one for another. And if any man hunger, let him eat at home; that ye come not together unto condemnation. And the rest will I set in order when I come."

      INTRODUCTION

      Historic Baptists, true Baptists, have believed in and still believe in closed communion. Baptists impose upon themselves the same restrictions that they impose on others concerning the Lord’s Supper. Baptists have always insisted that it is the Lord’s Table, not theirs; and He alone has the right to say who shall sit at His table. No amount of so called brotherly love, or ecumenical spirit, should cause us to invite to His table those who have not complied with the requirements laid down plainly in His inspired Word. With respect to Bible doctrines we must always use the scripture as our guide and practice. For Baptists, two of the most important doctrines are Baptism and The Lord’s Supper. These are the only two doctrines we recognize as Church Ordinances. The Bible is very clear in teaching how these doctrines are to be practiced and by whom.

      We only have two ordinances that we must never compromise or we risk our very existence, they are Baptism and The Lord’s Supper.

      The moment we deviate from the precise method God has prescribed we have started down the slippery slope of error. True Baptists have held fast to the original doctrine of The Lord’s Supper from the time of Christ and the Apostles.

      Unfortunately, in this day of what the Bible describes as the age of luke warmness, Baptists are becoming careless in regard to strictly following the pattern laid out for us in Scripture. Many of our Bible colleges are graduating otherwise sincere, Godly and dedicated pastors and teachers who have not been taught the very strict, biblical requirements that surround the Lord’s Supper. Any Bible college that neglects to teach its students the differences surrounding Closed Communion, Close Communion and Open Communion is not simply short changing its students; it is also not equipping their students to carry on sound Bible traditions. The result is men of God and churches that fall into error. And as we will see, this is serious error.

      Should we as Baptists ignore the restrictions made by our Lord and Master? NO! When we hold to the restrictions placed upon the Lord’s Supper by our Master, we are defending the "faith which was once delivered to the saints" Jude 3.

      The Lord’s Supper is rigidly restricted and I will show this in the following facts:

      IT IS RESTRICTED AS TO PLACE

      A. I Corinthians 11:18 says, "When ye come together in the church." This does not mean the church building; they had none. In other words, when the church assembles. The supper is to be observed by the church, in church capacity. Again this does not mean the church house. Ekklesia, the Greek word for church, means assembly. "When ye come together in the church," is when the church assembles.

      B. When we say church we mean an assembly of properly baptized believers. Acts 2:41-42: "Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls. And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers."

      The church is made up of saved people who are baptized by immersion. In the Bible, belief precedes baptism. That’s the Bible way.

      Acts 8:12-13, "But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women. Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized, he continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles and signs which were done."

      When we say properly baptized, we mean immersed. No unbeliever should take the Lord’s supper, and no non-immersed believer should take the supper. Those who are sprinkled are not baptized and cannot receive the supper. The Greek word for baptize is baptizo, and it always means to immerse.

      "In every case where communion is referred to, or where it may possibly have been administered, the believers had been baptized Acts 2:42; 8:12; 8:38; 10:47; 6:14-15; 18:8; 20:7. Baptism comes before communion, just as repentance and faith precede baptism".

      C. The Lord’s Supper is for baptized believers in church capacity: "When ye come together in the church," again not a building, but the assembly of the properly baptized believers.

      D. The fact that the Lord’s Supper is a church ordinance, to be observed in church capacity, is pointed out by the fact that it is for those who have been immersed and added to the fellowship of the church.

      E. The Lord’s Supper is never spoken of in connection with individuals. When it is referred to, it is only referred to in reference to baptized believers in local church capacity I Cor. 11:20-26).

      I want to quote Dr. W.W. Hamilton,

      "The individual administration of the ordinance has no Bible warrant and is a relic of Romanism. The Lord’s Supper is a church ordinance, and anything which goes beyond or comes short of this fails for want of scriptural example or command".

      “The practice of taking a little communion kit to hospitals, nursing homes, etc. is unscriptural and does not follow the scriptural example.”

      IT IS RESTRICTED TO A UNITED CHURCH

      A. The Bible in I Cor. 11:18 is very strong in condemning divisions around the Lord’s table. For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it.
      19 For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.
      20 When ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat the Lord's supper.

      There were no less than four divisions in the Corinthian church.
      I Cor. 1:12: "Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ."

      Because of these divisions, it was impossible for them to scripturally eat the Lord’s Supper. Division in the local church is reason to hold off observing the Lord’s Supper. But there are also other reasons to forego taking the Lord’s Supper. If there is gross sin in the membership we do not take it. Here is scriptural evidence for this: 1Co 5:7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our Passover is sacrificed for us:
      8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth. 9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:
      10 Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. 11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

      B. At this point, I want to ask these questions: Are there not doctrinal divisions among the many denominations? Is it not our doctrinal differences that cause us to be separate religious bodies?

      IT IS RESTRICTED BY DOCTRINE

      A. Those in the early church at Jerusalem who partook "continued stedfastly in the apostles’ doctrine" Acts 2:42. And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.

      B. Those that do not hold to apostolic truth are not to partake. This means there is to be discipline in the local body. How can you discipline those who do not belong to the local body? You can’t. The clear command of scripture is to withdraw fellowship from those who are not doctrinally sound.

      II Thes 3:6: "Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us."
      Rom. 16:17: "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them."
      To commune together means to have the same doctrine.
      II Thes. 2:15: "Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle."
      II John 10-11: "If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds."

      C. Some Baptists in our day have watered down this doctrine by practicing what they call “Close Communion.” By this they mean that they believe that members of another Baptist church may take communion with us because they are of the same beliefs. Once again, this is unscriptural.

      The welcome to the Lord's Table should not be extended beyond the discipline of the local church. When we take the Lord’s Supper there is supposed to be no gross sin among us and no divisions among us. We have no idea of the spiritual condition of another church’s members. If there is sin or division in the case of this other church’s members, we have no way of knowing it. We cannot discipline them because they are not members of our church. This is why we practice “Closed” communion, meaning it is restricted solely to our church membership. 
      So then, in closing I would like to reiterate the three different ideas concerning the Lord’s Supper and who is to take it. 
      Closed Communion = Only members of a single local church. 
      Close Communion = Members of like faith and order may partake. 
      Open Communion = If you claim to be a Christian, or simply attending the service, you may partake. 
      It is no small thing to attempt to change that which was implemented by our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. 
      Mt. 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen. 
      Many of our Baptist churches have a real need to consider the gravity of the act of observing The Lord’s Supper. It is not a light thing that is to be taken casually or without regard to the spiritual condition of ourselves or our church.
      1Co. 11:27 Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.

       28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.

       29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.

       30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.

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That depends on what group "we Baptists" is . 

Some are deceived into thinking there are no demons, or there is no demon influence or no demon possession.

Others resist the demons and the demons flee ,  no worry.

A few others cast demons out,  easily, 

although some people want to keep demons around,  and the demons get to stay then,   until someone stronger comes along to clean house and the one delivered gets filled with God's Spirit so the demons can't come back.

According to Ephesians and Revelation,   most people on earth serve demons daily and won't repent of it.

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I don't believe a demon can posses a true believer, but certainly believe they are still active in the world.

Have you ever seen footage of the Vineyard Church "Toronto Blessing" footage? Its people rolling on the ground, twitching, and in some cases barking and acting like animals claiming it was the holy spirit. If those people aren't acting then I can only attribute those kind of acts in God's name as demon possession.

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Potato, Potahto,  semantics or definitions change year to year,  group to group, and the demonic forces keep getting stronger and more widespread - until worldwide as KJV says.

19 minutes ago, Disciple.Luke said:

I don't believe a demon can posses a true believer, but certainly believe they are still active in the world.

Have you ever seen footage of the Vineyard Church "Toronto Blessing" footage?

About a hundred of more years ago,  Jesse Penn-Lewis exposed the false revival practices common already then - counterfeit.    A book she wrote available online "War On The Saints" explains vividly (not hollywood style, but without pulling any punches) and distinctly how and when demons have overcome people,  even (at least called) Christians in revival,

yes,  just like the debacle in Toronto, circa 1991? , the laughing rolling unintelligible disorderly ungodly nonsense that spread like wildfire worldwide and harmed thousands or millions of fellowships around the world that were not strong enough to withstand the evil attack/ deception or ? sorceries ? .  

 The Bible in Revelation 18 says

Rev 18:23

And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.

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Rev 18:24

And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

The Authorized Version or King James Version (KJV), 1611, 1769.
Outside of the United Kingdom, the KJV is in the public domain. Within the United Kingdom, the rights to the KJV are vested in the Crown.

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20 minutes ago, jeff_student_of_Jesus said:

Potato, Potahto,  semantics or definitions change year to year,  group to group, and the demonic forces keep getting stronger and more widespread - until worldwide as KJV says.

About a hundred of more years ago,  Jesse Penn-Lewis exposed the false revival practices common already then - counterfeit.    A book she wrote available online "War On The Saints" explains vividly (not hollywood style, but without pulling any punches) and distinctly how and when demons have overcome people,  even (at least called) Christians in revival,

yes,  just like the debacle in Toronto, circa 1991? , the laughing rolling unintelligible disorderly ungodly nonsense that spread like wildfire worldwide and harmed thousands or millions of fellowships around the world that were not strong enough to withstand the evil attack/ deception or ? sorceries ? .  

 The Bible in Revelation 18 says

Rev 18:23

And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.

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Rev 18:24

And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

The Authorized Version or King James Version (KJV), 1611, 1769.
Outside of the United Kingdom, the KJV is in the public domain. Within the United Kingdom, the rights to the KJV are vested in the Crown.

Yes that is the same Toronto Blessing I was referring to. It hard to even watch such nonsense, and it's unimaginable to me how they believe that kind of stuff is biblical. Maybe they need to study the bible a little more so they can recognize the true Spirit.

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35 minutes ago, Disciple.Luke said:

it's unimaginable to me how they believe that kind of stuff is biblical. Maybe they need to study the bible a little more so they can recognize the true Spirit.

Let The Creator's Word, Scripture, The KJV Bible,  provide the clarity to Jesus' disciples,  those who are born again, who repented and were immersed in Jesus' Name as written,

as the Father is Pleased to Do (as Jesus Says), 

that there are those who might be studying day and night,  the Bible,  and remain in darkness.

Some who had Scripture in the Original Languages,  Memorized,  far greater and far more than anyone known today here,   yet they remained sons of the devil and sought to kill Jesus the Messiah,  and later His disciples.

Discernment is mentioned how many times in God's Word ?   I can't remember where it was, I think it says as someone honors Torah (All God's Word),  discernment is granted (gifted) to them or grows, (as the Father gives).  If even the Apostles trusted in themselves,  Jesus said they would already have failed even to be saved.  Yet even a babe who trusts in the Father,  Jesus says the Father is pleased to reveal His Word to them. (as Jesus did after breaking the bread , with the two men who walked to Emmaus with Him and did not even recognize Him until it was revealed,  and Jesus had shown them through all the Old Testament - Torah, Tanakh, Psalms and Prophets - the Father's Revelation of Jesus thru and thru as all those Scriptures spoke of Jesus.  Who knew?   Only those to whom the Father and Jesus revealed it,  opened their minds to understand.

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We too often think demon possession, or possessed of devil's as the bible says, means "Mad Man of Gadarenes" or Linda Blair of The Exorcist type behavior. The Pharisees, Judas Iscariot, Herod, Pilate and the "ministers of the Angel of Light" were all possessed also. I would venture too say many politicians are either possessed or have some kind of pact with Satan. Especially those at the very top.

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I'd agree that demons cannot possess a believer. The Holy Spirit indwelling a believer would repel that demon. 

Demons do though affect believers and nonbelievers.  I am pretty sure they can possess an unbeliever. 

I don't see scripture that points to demons having no longer possession over a human , but that as I said.. a believer being immune to possession.

 

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3 hours ago, Disciple.Luke said:

Yes that is the same Toronto Blessing I was referring to. It hard to even watch such nonsense, and it's unimaginable to me how they believe that kind of stuff is biblical. Maybe they need to study the bible a little more so they can recognize the true Spirit.

I remember in the early 90s,  wasnt part of any baptist church and was going to a charismatic Methodist youth group. We all went to a big event in town that was part of the Toronto blessing thing. 

It had all that laughing,  crying, repetitive rocking,  etc.. at 

At the time it seemed weird and then when I got more involved in the youth group it became accepted. 

When I did find the truth through some Godly men teaching me, I saw a pattern in the way services like these were run,  that has been repeated, copied and pasted over and over and over for 30 plus years among Pentecostals and charismatics

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  I believe demons are fallen angels who joined Satan in his rebellion, and, as such, are much-more-powerful than any of us. However, they must obey God no matter how much they resist doing so, as did the ones Jesus ordered out of a man & allowed them to enter a herd of pigs. And I believe they can still possess people, if people either invite them, or do nothing to resist them, especially not using God's "armor" & "sword".

    I believe Hitler allowed himself to be possessed for awhile by an especially strong demon by his dabbling in the occult in his youth. This demon manifested itself after Hitler's  WW1 service, enabling him to suddenly become a demagogue & master manipulator, "messing up" only with the "Beer Hall Putsch" of 1923. From then on, he did about everything right, thru the conquest of France, but I believe God ordered the demon to end fully possessing him after that, as it wasn't yet time for the antichrist to come. But the demon still watched over him, & partially possessed him, preventing  his assassination a number of times.  More proof he was possessed-When something went wrong, such as the Nazis losing a battle, he was seen more-than-once, lying on the floor, kicking, screaming, foaming at the mouth, turning purple, pounding his fists on the floor, & gnawing the edges of the carpet, if one was present. Thus, behind his back, many of his generals called him"Teppichfresser"   literally "Carpet-Eater".

  When I was an unsaved teen, some friends invited me to attend a "Holiness" church service with them. it started out as an ordinary church service, but the preacher got louder & spoke faster, til he became unintelligible, & more & more of the congregation began raising their hands, then yelling & screaming, then dancing, & many lay on the floor, cutting dust angels. Though unsaved, I felt a great sense of EVIL in that place, believing I'd walked into a funny farm instead of a church. I quickly got out, got into my car, & left, without telling anyone goodbye.

  Next day, my friends asked me why I'd vanished, & I told them. They tried to tell me it was Holy Spirit possession that'd occurred, & I said I'd sooner avoid THAT!

  I actually think that experience kept me from coming to Jesus sooner, as I associated many churches with that ghastly spectacle. So, the demons had done their job for awhile!


  But yes, I believe it still occurs, but any Christian can be an "exorcist" by invoking Jesus' name; no special person nor ceremony needed.

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In one of the Bible colleges I attended, one of the professors gave several lectures on demons, and his viewpoint was that these were some of the worst of the worst of the fallen angels, just above those who are reserved in chains for judgement. I'm not sure I totally agree with him, but, I can't say I'm totally against that view either. The church I grew up in had several cases of demon possession present themselves, and they scared the bajeepers out of me! I have never questioned the existence of such creatures. I also know from experience that there is a battle for people's minds, and that demon oppression (Christians CAN experience this) and demon POSESSION (Christians CANNOT experience this because of the indwelling of the Holy Spirit) are very real and present today. I fully believe that is why we, as Christians should be putting on the whole armor of God daily, and filling our mind with Scripture to combat the evil in our world with the help and guidance of the Holy Spirit.

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2 hours ago, Hugh_Flower said:

Demons aren’t even fallen angels. 🤔 

Do you have sources for that, Hugh? Or possibly Scripture to back that statement up? 

 

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3 hours ago, Hugh_Flower said:

Demons aren’t even fallen angels. 🤔 

The Bible refers specifically to the Devil and his angels. If not fallen, then where did they come from? Satan cannot create, so he didn't create them: they came from somewhere.

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2 minutes ago, Ukulelemike said:

The Bible refers specifically to the Devil and his angels. If not fallen, then where did they come from? Satan cannot create, so he didn't create them: they came from somewhere.

 

2 minutes ago, Ukulelemike said:

The Bible refers specifically to the Devil and his angels. If not fallen, then where did they come from? Satan cannot create, so he didn't create them: they came from somewhere.

2Pe 2:4  For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;

Jud 1:6  And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

The fallen Angels are bound until Tribulation. 
Devils are the spirits of the nephelim that died in the flood, since they have no souls they wander the earth 

 

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1 minute ago, Hugh_Flower said:

 

2Pe 2:4  For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;

Jud 1:6  And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

The fallen Angels are bound until Tribulation. 
Devils are the spirits of the nephelim that died in the flood, since they have no souls they wander the earth 

 

There is nothing about the so-called Nephilim that would indicate they had no souls, nor that they were human/angel crossbreeds, or even fallen angels having sex with human women, because all that is impossible. If they had no souls, they would simply cease to exist, because it is the soul that lives on.

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4 minutes ago, Ukulelemike said:

There is nothing about the so-called Nephilim that would indicate they had no souls, nor that they were human/angel crossbreeds, or even fallen angels having sex with human women, because all that is impossible. If they had no souls, they would simply cease to exist, because it is the soul that lives on.

Where do you find that it’s impossible? Where in the Bible does it say that? Who do you think the sons of God are? Why do you think the angels where bound? Why do you think Noah is pure in his generations? Who do you think the giants are?  
 

There is actually a lot of evidence in the Bible if you read it.

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