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      James Foley
       
      I Corinthians 11:17-34: "Now in this that I declare unto you I praise you not, that ye come together not for the better, but for the worse. For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it. For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you. When ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat the Lord's Supper. For in eating every one taketh before other his own supper: and one is hungry, and another is drunken. What? have ye not houses to eat and to drink in? or despise ye the church of God, and shame them that have not? What shall I say to you? shall I praise you in this? I praise you not. For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread: And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me. For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do show the Lord's death till he come. Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord. But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup. For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body. For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep. For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged. But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world. Wherefore, my brethren, when ye come together to eat, tarry one for another. And if any man hunger, let him eat at home; that ye come not together unto condemnation. And the rest will I set in order when I come."

      INTRODUCTION

      Historic Baptists, true Baptists, have believed in and still believe in closed communion. Baptists impose upon themselves the same restrictions that they impose on others concerning the Lord’s Supper. Baptists have always insisted that it is the Lord’s Table, not theirs; and He alone has the right to say who shall sit at His table. No amount of so called brotherly love, or ecumenical spirit, should cause us to invite to His table those who have not complied with the requirements laid down plainly in His inspired Word. With respect to Bible doctrines we must always use the scripture as our guide and practice. For Baptists, two of the most important doctrines are Baptism and The Lord’s Supper. These are the only two doctrines we recognize as Church Ordinances. The Bible is very clear in teaching how these doctrines are to be practiced and by whom.

      We only have two ordinances that we must never compromise or we risk our very existence, they are Baptism and The Lord’s Supper.

      The moment we deviate from the precise method God has prescribed we have started down the slippery slope of error. True Baptists have held fast to the original doctrine of The Lord’s Supper from the time of Christ and the Apostles.

      Unfortunately, in this day of what the Bible describes as the age of luke warmness, Baptists are becoming careless in regard to strictly following the pattern laid out for us in Scripture. Many of our Bible colleges are graduating otherwise sincere, Godly and dedicated pastors and teachers who have not been taught the very strict, biblical requirements that surround the Lord’s Supper. Any Bible college that neglects to teach its students the differences surrounding Closed Communion, Close Communion and Open Communion is not simply short changing its students; it is also not equipping their students to carry on sound Bible traditions. The result is men of God and churches that fall into error. And as we will see, this is serious error.

      Should we as Baptists ignore the restrictions made by our Lord and Master? NO! When we hold to the restrictions placed upon the Lord’s Supper by our Master, we are defending the "faith which was once delivered to the saints" Jude 3.

      The Lord’s Supper is rigidly restricted and I will show this in the following facts:

      IT IS RESTRICTED AS TO PLACE

      A. I Corinthians 11:18 says, "When ye come together in the church." This does not mean the church building; they had none. In other words, when the church assembles. The supper is to be observed by the church, in church capacity. Again this does not mean the church house. Ekklesia, the Greek word for church, means assembly. "When ye come together in the church," is when the church assembles.

      B. When we say church we mean an assembly of properly baptized believers. Acts 2:41-42: "Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls. And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers."

      The church is made up of saved people who are baptized by immersion. In the Bible, belief precedes baptism. That’s the Bible way.

      Acts 8:12-13, "But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women. Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized, he continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles and signs which were done."

      When we say properly baptized, we mean immersed. No unbeliever should take the Lord’s supper, and no non-immersed believer should take the supper. Those who are sprinkled are not baptized and cannot receive the supper. The Greek word for baptize is baptizo, and it always means to immerse.

      "In every case where communion is referred to, or where it may possibly have been administered, the believers had been baptized Acts 2:42; 8:12; 8:38; 10:47; 6:14-15; 18:8; 20:7. Baptism comes before communion, just as repentance and faith precede baptism".

      C. The Lord’s Supper is for baptized believers in church capacity: "When ye come together in the church," again not a building, but the assembly of the properly baptized believers.

      D. The fact that the Lord’s Supper is a church ordinance, to be observed in church capacity, is pointed out by the fact that it is for those who have been immersed and added to the fellowship of the church.

      E. The Lord’s Supper is never spoken of in connection with individuals. When it is referred to, it is only referred to in reference to baptized believers in local church capacity I Cor. 11:20-26).

      I want to quote Dr. W.W. Hamilton,

      "The individual administration of the ordinance has no Bible warrant and is a relic of Romanism. The Lord’s Supper is a church ordinance, and anything which goes beyond or comes short of this fails for want of scriptural example or command".

      “The practice of taking a little communion kit to hospitals, nursing homes, etc. is unscriptural and does not follow the scriptural example.”

      IT IS RESTRICTED TO A UNITED CHURCH

      A. The Bible in I Cor. 11:18 is very strong in condemning divisions around the Lord’s table. For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it.
      19 For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.
      20 When ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat the Lord's supper.

      There were no less than four divisions in the Corinthian church.
      I Cor. 1:12: "Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ."

      Because of these divisions, it was impossible for them to scripturally eat the Lord’s Supper. Division in the local church is reason to hold off observing the Lord’s Supper. But there are also other reasons to forego taking the Lord’s Supper. If there is gross sin in the membership we do not take it. Here is scriptural evidence for this: 1Co 5:7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our Passover is sacrificed for us:
      8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth. 9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:
      10 Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. 11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

      B. At this point, I want to ask these questions: Are there not doctrinal divisions among the many denominations? Is it not our doctrinal differences that cause us to be separate religious bodies?

      IT IS RESTRICTED BY DOCTRINE

      A. Those in the early church at Jerusalem who partook "continued stedfastly in the apostles’ doctrine" Acts 2:42. And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.

      B. Those that do not hold to apostolic truth are not to partake. This means there is to be discipline in the local body. How can you discipline those who do not belong to the local body? You can’t. The clear command of scripture is to withdraw fellowship from those who are not doctrinally sound.

      II Thes 3:6: "Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us."
      Rom. 16:17: "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them."
      To commune together means to have the same doctrine.
      II Thes. 2:15: "Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle."
      II John 10-11: "If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds."

      C. Some Baptists in our day have watered down this doctrine by practicing what they call “Close Communion.” By this they mean that they believe that members of another Baptist church may take communion with us because they are of the same beliefs. Once again, this is unscriptural.

      The welcome to the Lord's Table should not be extended beyond the discipline of the local church. When we take the Lord’s Supper there is supposed to be no gross sin among us and no divisions among us. We have no idea of the spiritual condition of another church’s members. If there is sin or division in the case of this other church’s members, we have no way of knowing it. We cannot discipline them because they are not members of our church. This is why we practice “Closed” communion, meaning it is restricted solely to our church membership. 
      So then, in closing I would like to reiterate the three different ideas concerning the Lord’s Supper and who is to take it. 
      Closed Communion = Only members of a single local church. 
      Close Communion = Members of like faith and order may partake. 
      Open Communion = If you claim to be a Christian, or simply attending the service, you may partake. 
      It is no small thing to attempt to change that which was implemented by our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. 
      Mt. 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen. 
      Many of our Baptist churches have a real need to consider the gravity of the act of observing The Lord’s Supper. It is not a light thing that is to be taken casually or without regard to the spiritual condition of ourselves or our church.
      1Co. 11:27 Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.

       28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.

       29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.

       30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.

Official Covid Thread (Other Threads Merged in here)


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1 hour ago, jeff_student_of_Jesus said:

A couple months ago I saw a website unremarkable except it showed 84 symptoms to watch for that covid was associated with at sometime in someone in the past.

vomiting, nausea, headache, muscle ache, itching,  dry skin,  moist skin,  dry eyes,  itchy throat,  pain in the toes,  cracking fingernails,  red spots,  brown spots,  polka dot spots,  trouble breathing (even if after a fast run or sprint) ,  blurred vision,  spots in vision,  runny nose,  dry nose,  hang nail,   constipation,  indigestion, diarrhea,  brown poo,  black poo,  red poo,  wet poo,  polka dot poo,  heart burn,  pain in left arm,  pain in right arm, pain in left leg,  pain in right leg, pain in back,  pain in front,  hair falling out or coming out in comb,  painful hair,  rapid blinking,  no blinking,  sporadic blinking, seizures, muscle spasms,  soreness after loading or unloading truck of 3000 lbs material,   pain after hitting shin on wooden board,  dizziness upon standing up from sitting position,  dizziness when bending over,  dizziness when reading this,  dizziness at any time,  heaviness or empty feeling in the brain cavity/skull/ ,  and on and on and on went the long list of symptoms to "be alert for" and call the doctor if anything on the list comes up !!

That's a lot to remember !   eh? 

Thankfully, there are now apps for smart phones that monitor the body/ functions/ etc and automatically transmit (or call?) information to the nazxxxdoctor/medical service to keep them up to date on everything to be used against you in a court of law whenever they decide to.

 

Note that the monitoring is real,  the control or attempted control is real,  but some of the above information , while real,  is using hollywood/creative license(exaggeration) ,  for effect to convey the absurdity of the governmental and medical institutional plans and procedures during the last generation, especially as seen the last two years ad absurdum ad infinitum ad lib.

In spite or his or anyone's facetious or ridiculous reasons for getting known experimental toxins injected into their blood stream,

there are a couple of things that might help alleviate the toxic side effects (and the fda is trying actively to prevent the use of the remedies).

Glutathione or L-Glutamine or L-cystein-something amino acid,

zinc,  niacin, b vitamins, vitamin c,  applecidervinegar(unfiltered, with mother in it),  vitamin d, and so on (basic nutritional needs for everyone).

Of course God might have something to Say and to Do.  Seek Him and Listen to Him.  (Most Important)

So then it sounds everything is a symptom of Covid. Every disease is Covid. Every death is Covid related except deaths from the vaccine.

I had a tooth break and fall out and I read that was Covid related.

This will never end, one way or another, except by force I'm afraid.

On 7/24/2021 at 11:26 AM, Bouncing Bill said:

He has become a bad scientists making false claims outside his field of expertise.

It has been widely reported that he said that anyone taking the COVID vaccine will die within two years. This has been shown to be utterly  false. 

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/may/28/viral-image/no-french-virologist-luc-montagnier-didnt-say-covi/

He has been severely criticized by others in his field for spreading a dangerous message. Let's give him a break. He was born in 1932. I expect his mental capabilities are not what they once were.

 

 

Politifact. Get away with that garbage.

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On 7/23/2021 at 10:50 PM, Salyan said:

Is this an honest statement? Have you or anyone you know caught Covid and changed your mind after?

Because that's a particularly stupid sentiment, scientifically speaking. Once you've had Covid, you have natural antibodies, and no need for a vaccine. Even pro-vaxxers should know that if the Covid vaccine works, it only replicates what actual survival of the disease has already done - and done a better job at. We are increasingly finding that vaccine immunity lasts only a number of years, while natural immunity from surviving a disease lasts a lifetime. There are some doctors that suggest that getting the vaccine after catching Covid may actually be quite dangerous. 

I personally know dozens of people who caught Covid (we were not, um, social distancing... 😄), including thirteen seniors. Of those literal dozens (78 and counting), I know of 2 who got the vaccine after - and only because they thought they wouldn't be able to travel without it. The rest are no more pro-vaccine, pro-lockdown, or pro-Covid fear than they were before - because they found that it was only a nasty flu (and sometimes not that nasty) after all. There was only one hospitalization that I heard of in that group - he was 92 - and after he got out, he was right back in church, maskless, singing, and shaking hands. Because he didn't choose to be terrified of something he'd survived.

My wife's doctor and my doctor believe we had Covid in Dec of 2019 before they found out what it was. We had all the symptoms...It lasted nearly three weeks, but we recovered. My COPD and my asthma got worse because of it, and it's not recommended that I take the vaccine because of some other medical issues. Same for my wife. We will continue to decline the vaccine. This has NEVER been about our health. Too many people jumped on the "fear" bandwagon because some of the Socialist left, medical establishment and government officials were hit with something that they didn't know how to handle. They all swallowed the WHO's and NIH (Fried Brain Fauci's organization) about what was going on instead of really researching the problem themselves. Thankfully, my wife and I like to research things from all sides. We came to the conclusion that most people DO NOT need a vaccine, especially with the high recovery rates. This IS NOT a true pandemic. If it were, the government wouldn't have to be selling people on how dangerous it is and how effective these "vaccines" are. Letting a slew of illegals in who haven't been tested or vaccinated is another reason that I know that this isn't about our health. Wake up, people!

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As noted 75,000,000 times,  people who were told they had or have covid were never proven at all to have a problem from any virus at all,  in any laboratory,  even the cdc and fda and ama labs.  (as far as known )

 

Sure,  they got sick.   Remember the most common cause of sickness and death for the last 50 years ?    Medicine.   (legal , but not moral,  medicine) The medical system.  For proift to those who control the medical system and the governmnets of the world - pharmakeia.

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"They said"  I had it.  "They say so many people have it". 

 

Even the sites others have claimed 'proved' it , that it was covid,  ONLY MADE CLAIMS,  no proof.

 

Who gets the majority bulk of the over 5 trillion dollar budget for covid ?    The foxes.   (or wolves)

The ones who are making the unproven claims.

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Possible searches concerning health and avoiding toxins in the shots:

"French Scientists Find GRAPHINE in Blood of Vaccinated People"

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"SM-102"  "glow in the dark" same substance claimed as in fireflies,  maybe can be monitored by devices manufactured by Bile Gats.   Why is it in the shots ?   Is it a mark for those who got the vaccine,  that machines can read as claimed on some sites ?   It appears there is no useful purpose for it ever to be injected into a living person (nor a dead person?) .

 

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19 hours ago, jeff_student_of_Jesus said:

Possible searches concerning health and avoiding toxins in the shots:

"French Scientists Find GRAPHINE in Blood of Vaccinated People"

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"SM-102"  "glow in the dark" same substance claimed as in fireflies,  maybe can be monitored by devices manufactured by Bile Gats.   Why is it in the shots ?   Is it a mark for those who got the vaccine,  that machines can read as claimed on some sites ?   It appears there is no useful purpose for it ever to be injected into a living person (nor a dead person?) .

 

I have friends in the cell phone industry, and they have told me that T-Mobile, AT&T, and any other 5G carrier can trace you if you have this substance in your blood. Something in the 5G system is able to read these and use them as a tracker...and is far more accurate than just tracking by the cellphone technology itself. I've had some in the military say that this is true, that the military has already used this technology in other countries to track America's enemies.

Someone sent this to me in Messenger, and it's so relevant!

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27 minutes ago, BrotherTony said:

Someone sent this to me in Messenger, and it's so relevant!

Sound good but not true. We know salvation is free and that the Christian life works but there is a lot of opposition because of Satan and lovers of sin. Same thing with health, proper diet and exercise is better than any medicine but just look and see how many people are fat. The list could go on and on.

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Very Relevant since 1902.

Vaccines don't work, are not safe,  and are pushed immorally with huge ad campaigns and stigmas on those who resist it and upon many who cannot resist, as well as upon multitudes who don't have a clue the harm they are allowing to themselves trusting the system that is pushing shuch toxins.

The incentives used to push the devil's agenda on earth include money,  prestige,  fame,  popularity,  acceptance (by the world/flesh/society;  not by God), 

"Someone sent this to me in Messenger, and it's so relevant!"

Someone sent this to me in Messenger, and it's so relevant!

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  • The Gospel, The Good News of Jesus Salvation WORKS,   and is rejected,  blocked, censored, threatened by the babylon system of covid,  gobernments and mebical society and drug makers.

If you're looking for perfection in me, you may want to look past me to the Lord Jesus Christ. I'm his bondservant, and he's in charge. He's the only one perfect  that I know of. He's still working on me. So, please excuse the mess from the construction.  

Looking unto Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith!-

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27 minutes ago, John Young said:

Sound good but not true. We know salvation is free and that the Christian life works but there is a lot of opposition because of Satan and lovers of sin. Same thing with health, proper diet and exercise is better than any medicine but just look and see how many people are fat. The list could go on and on.

Uh, I take exception to that remark about fat people! I am a very hefty person...but mine isn't because of overeating or laziness...I'm not saying you said that....I'm just pointing the facts out. Because I nearly bled to death in 2004, and had to receive 7+ units of blood, and some of that blood being the wrong type, it helped to put my immune system in decline. I had to have iron infusions and chemotherapy, as well as steroids for nearly five years to help bring my immune system back up. Because these steroids helped to burn out my adrenal glands, I have had a very hard time getting back down to my former weight of 265 lbs. I have a proper diet thanks to my being diabetic, and I exercise as much as I can with traumatic back, neck and leg injuries. Walking with a cane, and at times a walker isn't conducive to becoming thin again! 

So, you'll never have a one size fits all, especially not when it comes to a vaccine that IS NOT NEEDED...a point which you seem to have intentionally overlooked.

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33 minutes ago, BrotherTony said:

you'll never have a one size fits all

That's true however we know exceptions are not the rule and that there are also things that still hold true for all such as we all need to breath air and drink water. We may excuse sizes or amounts but we can't excuse the thing itself.

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So...

My brother's wife has a friend who was coerced into getting the jab by her employer for who she is a supervisor. I can't give details because she's afraid of the consequences if it gets back to her employer. She now has Covid. Her whole family was vaccinated and her whole family has Covid.

The vaccine is now the pathogen.

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6 minutes ago, SureWord said:

So...

My brother's wife has a friend who was coerced into getting the jab by her employer for who she is a supervisor. I can't give details because she's afraid of the consequences if it gets back to her employer. She now has Covid. Her whole family was vaccinated and her whole family has Covid.

The vaccine is now the pathogen.

That could be the case. They're proving as well that the possibility of contracting Covid more than once in a 6 month period of time is highly likely! It's just not worth getting the vaccinations. 

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13 minutes ago, BrotherTony said:

That could be the case. They're proving as well that the possibility of contracting Covid more than once in a 6 month period of time is highly likely! It's just not worth getting the vaccinations. 

We most likely already reached herd immunity now they are spreading a new variant via the vaccine 

So, one doctor told my mother she could have gotten the blood clots in her lungs from the vaccine. The other said no way. The one doctor said they developed in her lungs not the legs. Then she tried suggesting my mother had Covid but when it was pointed out she was vaxed in February and has been tested negative four times since then she tried saying it could have happened from some other virus or possibly from the vaccine.

I kind of felt bad for this doctor because I sensed she wanted to lay it all out. The other doctor was a complete government shill 

 

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51 minutes ago, SureWord said:

We most likely already reached herd imm  happened from some other virus or possibly from the vaccine.

I kind of felt bad for this doctor because I sensed she wanted to lay it all out. The other doctor was a complete government shill 

 

I have a feeling that many of the doctors would like to speak out...yet, I'm finding that many of the younger ones are afraid to speak out in any way, shape, or form because they're afraid of losing patients, losing income, and losing the respect of those who've been drinking at the government Kool-Aid fountain!

I know they've been testing my niece for blood clots, and they've been testing my birth father for them as well. They both believed, and possibly still believe that the vaccines are beneficial and safe. I'm just not convinced, especially with the lack of credibility of the people pushing the narrative.

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Seems to me that the Biden Adminisration is full of confusion about whether people really need this vaccine or not. Mr. Biden has suggested giving people who get vaccinated $100 each. Bribing people for something that he says is necessary? I don't get it, and WON'T get "it," the "jab."

Mr. Biden, while making public statements earlier this week stated that people who got the vaccines "will not die from the coronavirus." Really? Does he realize that people who've gotten the vaccines have died as a result of blood clots, heart problems, and other condietions caused by the vaccines? Again, so much conflicting information on the vaccines and the virus itself isn't going to put anyone at ease enough to get the vaccines when they've already decided they don't need or want them. Biden has also sidestepped questions about unvaccinated illegals entering our country and being shipped to various communities while they are unaware of it, and how they are spreading the virus. He also ignores the fact that those already vaccinated can spread the virus itself (the original) and the variants.  Are y'all confused yet??? 😉

It's been indicated that the Biden Administration would force the vaccinations on anyone who is on Medicare, Medicaid or other public health systems, and would remove the people who declined the vaccine, causing them to lose all health coverage. At this point, it's just a suggestion, but this could be the first signs of a totalitarian approach to the vaccines. 

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More reprobate main stream lies:

These reprobates whom were installed by China and their ten kings without kingdoms have 30 different lies flying in all directions. Their bought and paid for political minions cannot remember the lies as is typical and none of their lies corroborate each other which is also typical of liars.

Satan is their father and all he speaks is lies. As do all the shills for the reprobates.

https://www.newstarget.com/2021-07-29-cdc-admits-everything-pushed-cure-covid-failed.html

https://sputniknews.com/us/202107301083490458-delta-covid-19-variant-shed-by-vaccinated-people-spreads-like-chickenpox-cdc-document-suggests/

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/07/insanity-goofy-surgeon-general-vivek-murthy-says-vaccinated-people-need-wear-masks-protect-unvaccinated-people/

https://www.infowars.com/posts/pandemic-of-the-vaccinated-75-of-new-covid-cases-in-singapore-already-got-the-jab/

https://humansarefree.com/2021/07/us-covid-deaths-lowest-since-march-2020.html

 

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3 hours ago, Bouncing Bill said:

99.7% of all new COVID cases are unvaccinated people and are costing huge amounts of money. Should the cost of health insurance for the unvaccinated be raised to cover the cost? 

 

99.8% Recovery rate. This rate does not condone, warrant, or justify a Pandemic.

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17 minutes ago, Jim_Alaska said:

99.8% Recovery rate. This rate does not condone, warrant, or justify a Pandemic.

Off topic friend. The question is about covering the cost. 99+% of patients in the hospital and are unvaccinated and are running up huge bills. Should the people who got the vaccine have to bare the cost of increased health care premiums helping those who would not get sick and have to go to the hospital if they got their vaccination. Or should the unvaccinated have their health care premiums raised as they are, by far, the most likely to become ill, hospitalized and run up large bills?

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  • 1 hour ago, Jim_Alaska said:

    99.8% Recovery rate. This rate does not condone, warrant, or justify a Pandemic.

    Right,  The cost is absolutely and totally fraudulently published (fake news,  illicit unwarranted undeserved un-necessary (provoked, caused by malpractice)  profits in the billions or trillions) ),  acquired, publicized, and made up.  The procedures have been over and over and over again re-done to guarantee the highest profits without regard to any welfare of patients, without any disease needed, without any virus needed.
  • Increased "health care premiums" are almost entirely due to fraud for about a century,   and the so-called (fake) vaccine has caused massive SPIKES not only inside those who get the toxic substances injected,   but in the fake news reports,  fraudulent medical reports,  fraudulent "legal" DEATH CERTS,  and fraudulent medical protocols and medical and social practices and the costs there-of.   Because of the fake pandemic,  profits have astronomically soared many TRILLIONS of dollars.

    The unvaccinated are able to avoid disease much better than the vaccinated are. - The vaccinated are practically guaranteed to get (physically) weaker and sicker gradually or quickly (as has already happened to thousands or millions)  every month or year over time,  not counting the curse they receive from not trusting God and Jesus.

    The absurd profits allowed legally and pushed publicly for decades ,  as if 'normal' and 'expected',  have exceeded $300.00 per month per person WHEN THEY ARE WELL!!  (not sick) ....

    That came to many billions per year within our life-times,  FOR WELL PEOPLE!!  It never should have been un-noticed ,  it never would have been permitted,  if people were told the truth.

    Treating those with a virus is as simple as doing nothing for 99.5 percent of the people UNLESS they got the vaccination (so-called) -  if anyone got the vaccination(so-called), they are much greater liability for many troubles.

    If anyone by God's Grace and Knowledge and Wisdom He Has Provided to Everyone as He Pleases ,   refused the shots,  they have almost nothing to worry about except nazi-orchestrated problems by government, medicos,  and citizens on the medical zani's side.

    The cost is absolutely and totally fraudulently published (fake news,  illicit unwarranted undeserved un-necessary (provoked, caused by malpractice)  profits in the billions or trillions) ),  acquired, publicized, and made up.  The procedures have been over and over and over again re-done to guarantee the highest profits without regard to any welfare of patients, without any disease needed, without any virus needed.

Increased "health care premiums" are almost entirely due to fraud for about a century,   and the so-called (fake) vaccine has caused massive SPIKES not only inside those who get the toxic substances injected,   but in the fake news reports,  fraudulent medical reports,  fraudulent "legal" DEATH CERTS,  and fraudulent medical protocols and medical and social practices and the costs there-of.   Because of the fake pandemic,  profits have astronomically soared many TRILLIONS of dollars.

The unvaccinated are able to avoid disease much better than the vaccinated are. - The vaccinated are practically guaranteed to get (physically) weaker and sicker gradually or quickly (as has already happened to thousands or millions)  every month or year over time,  not counting the curse they receive from not trusting God and Jesus.

The absurd profits allowed legally and pushed publicly for decades ,  as if 'normal' and 'expected',  have exceeded $300.00 per month per person WHEN THEY ARE WELL!!  (not sick) ....

That came to many billions per year within our life-times,  FOR WELL PEOPLE!!  It never should have been un-noticed ,  it never would have been permitted,  if people were told the truth.

Treating those with a virus is as simple as doing nothing for 99.5 percent of the people UNLESS they got the vaccination (so-called) -  if anyone got the vaccination(so-called), they are much greater liability for many troubles.

If anyone by God's Grace and Knowledge and Wisdom He Has Provided to Everyone as He Pleases ,   refused the shots,  they have almost nothing to worry about except nazi-orchestrated problems by government, medicos,  and citizens on the medical zani's side.

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