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      Closed Communion
      James Foley
       
      I Corinthians 11:17-34: "Now in this that I declare unto you I praise you not, that ye come together not for the better, but for the worse. For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it. For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you. When ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat the Lord's Supper. For in eating every one taketh before other his own supper: and one is hungry, and another is drunken. What? have ye not houses to eat and to drink in? or despise ye the church of God, and shame them that have not? What shall I say to you? shall I praise you in this? I praise you not. For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread: And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me. For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do show the Lord's death till he come. Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord. But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup. For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body. For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep. For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged. But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world. Wherefore, my brethren, when ye come together to eat, tarry one for another. And if any man hunger, let him eat at home; that ye come not together unto condemnation. And the rest will I set in order when I come."

      INTRODUCTION

      Historic Baptists, true Baptists, have believed in and still believe in closed communion. Baptists impose upon themselves the same restrictions that they impose on others concerning the Lord’s Supper. Baptists have always insisted that it is the Lord’s Table, not theirs; and He alone has the right to say who shall sit at His table. No amount of so called brotherly love, or ecumenical spirit, should cause us to invite to His table those who have not complied with the requirements laid down plainly in His inspired Word. With respect to Bible doctrines we must always use the scripture as our guide and practice. For Baptists, two of the most important doctrines are Baptism and The Lord’s Supper. These are the only two doctrines we recognize as Church Ordinances. The Bible is very clear in teaching how these doctrines are to be practiced and by whom.

      We only have two ordinances that we must never compromise or we risk our very existence, they are Baptism and The Lord’s Supper.

      The moment we deviate from the precise method God has prescribed we have started down the slippery slope of error. True Baptists have held fast to the original doctrine of The Lord’s Supper from the time of Christ and the Apostles.

      Unfortunately, in this day of what the Bible describes as the age of luke warmness, Baptists are becoming careless in regard to strictly following the pattern laid out for us in Scripture. Many of our Bible colleges are graduating otherwise sincere, Godly and dedicated pastors and teachers who have not been taught the very strict, biblical requirements that surround the Lord’s Supper. Any Bible college that neglects to teach its students the differences surrounding Closed Communion, Close Communion and Open Communion is not simply short changing its students; it is also not equipping their students to carry on sound Bible traditions. The result is men of God and churches that fall into error. And as we will see, this is serious error.

      Should we as Baptists ignore the restrictions made by our Lord and Master? NO! When we hold to the restrictions placed upon the Lord’s Supper by our Master, we are defending the "faith which was once delivered to the saints" Jude 3.

      The Lord’s Supper is rigidly restricted and I will show this in the following facts:

      IT IS RESTRICTED AS TO PLACE

      A. I Corinthians 11:18 says, "When ye come together in the church." This does not mean the church building; they had none. In other words, when the church assembles. The supper is to be observed by the church, in church capacity. Again this does not mean the church house. Ekklesia, the Greek word for church, means assembly. "When ye come together in the church," is when the church assembles.

      B. When we say church we mean an assembly of properly baptized believers. Acts 2:41-42: "Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls. And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers."

      The church is made up of saved people who are baptized by immersion. In the Bible, belief precedes baptism. That’s the Bible way.

      Acts 8:12-13, "But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women. Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized, he continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles and signs which were done."

      When we say properly baptized, we mean immersed. No unbeliever should take the Lord’s supper, and no non-immersed believer should take the supper. Those who are sprinkled are not baptized and cannot receive the supper. The Greek word for baptize is baptizo, and it always means to immerse.

      "In every case where communion is referred to, or where it may possibly have been administered, the believers had been baptized Acts 2:42; 8:12; 8:38; 10:47; 6:14-15; 18:8; 20:7. Baptism comes before communion, just as repentance and faith precede baptism".

      C. The Lord’s Supper is for baptized believers in church capacity: "When ye come together in the church," again not a building, but the assembly of the properly baptized believers.

      D. The fact that the Lord’s Supper is a church ordinance, to be observed in church capacity, is pointed out by the fact that it is for those who have been immersed and added to the fellowship of the church.

      E. The Lord’s Supper is never spoken of in connection with individuals. When it is referred to, it is only referred to in reference to baptized believers in local church capacity I Cor. 11:20-26).

      I want to quote Dr. W.W. Hamilton,

      "The individual administration of the ordinance has no Bible warrant and is a relic of Romanism. The Lord’s Supper is a church ordinance, and anything which goes beyond or comes short of this fails for want of scriptural example or command".

      “The practice of taking a little communion kit to hospitals, nursing homes, etc. is unscriptural and does not follow the scriptural example.”

      IT IS RESTRICTED TO A UNITED CHURCH

      A. The Bible in I Cor. 11:18 is very strong in condemning divisions around the Lord’s table. For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it.
      19 For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.
      20 When ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat the Lord's supper.

      There were no less than four divisions in the Corinthian church.
      I Cor. 1:12: "Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ."

      Because of these divisions, it was impossible for them to scripturally eat the Lord’s Supper. Division in the local church is reason to hold off observing the Lord’s Supper. But there are also other reasons to forego taking the Lord’s Supper. If there is gross sin in the membership we do not take it. Here is scriptural evidence for this: 1Co 5:7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our Passover is sacrificed for us:
      8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth. 9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:
      10 Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. 11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

      B. At this point, I want to ask these questions: Are there not doctrinal divisions among the many denominations? Is it not our doctrinal differences that cause us to be separate religious bodies?

      IT IS RESTRICTED BY DOCTRINE

      A. Those in the early church at Jerusalem who partook "continued stedfastly in the apostles’ doctrine" Acts 2:42. And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.

      B. Those that do not hold to apostolic truth are not to partake. This means there is to be discipline in the local body. How can you discipline those who do not belong to the local body? You can’t. The clear command of scripture is to withdraw fellowship from those who are not doctrinally sound.

      II Thes 3:6: "Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us."
      Rom. 16:17: "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them."
      To commune together means to have the same doctrine.
      II Thes. 2:15: "Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle."
      II John 10-11: "If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds."

      C. Some Baptists in our day have watered down this doctrine by practicing what they call “Close Communion.” By this they mean that they believe that members of another Baptist church may take communion with us because they are of the same beliefs. Once again, this is unscriptural.

      The welcome to the Lord's Table should not be extended beyond the discipline of the local church. When we take the Lord’s Supper there is supposed to be no gross sin among us and no divisions among us. We have no idea of the spiritual condition of another church’s members. If there is sin or division in the case of this other church’s members, we have no way of knowing it. We cannot discipline them because they are not members of our church. This is why we practice “Closed” communion, meaning it is restricted solely to our church membership. 
      So then, in closing I would like to reiterate the three different ideas concerning the Lord’s Supper and who is to take it. 
      Closed Communion = Only members of a single local church. 
      Close Communion = Members of like faith and order may partake. 
      Open Communion = If you claim to be a Christian, or simply attending the service, you may partake. 
      It is no small thing to attempt to change that which was implemented by our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. 
      Mt. 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen. 
      Many of our Baptist churches have a real need to consider the gravity of the act of observing The Lord’s Supper. It is not a light thing that is to be taken casually or without regard to the spiritual condition of ourselves or our church.
      1Co. 11:27 Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.

       28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.

       29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.

       30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.

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On 4/19/2021 at 4:33 PM, PastorMatt said:

... Like I mentioned in the earlier post I care more about what Scripture says than terminology, that's why I was interested in knowing what event you believe 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 is talking about.

This event will take place at the end of the Millennium. The rapture of the "Church of the first born" (Heb. 12:23) will take place in less than a month.

"September 18, 2020 is the starting point for a new period of time, lasting 50 prophetic years. This date corresponds to the first day of the first month in the prophetic reckoning of years. In the tenth chapter of the book of Ezra, Scripture speaks of the events that will take place in the Tabernacle of heaven after Church of the first born is gathered there. Notice, Scripture uses a new count of time.

And they “sate downe in the first day of the tenth moneth to examine the matter” (Ezra.10:16)

If we count 270 days (nine prophetic months) from the date of September 18, 2020, then the next (271 days) will be “the first day of the tenth moneth” - June 15, 2021, this is the day when the Church of the first born will enter the heavenly Tabernacle for the first time. It is said: And they “sate downe …”

And the meeting will make an important decision after three months:

“And they made an ende, with all the men that had taken strange wiues, by the first day of the first moneth” (Ezra.10:17)

The first day of the first month (already the next prophetic year) will be Monday, September 13, 2021. By this day, on the eve of it, the command “to restore and to build Ierusalem” will be issued (Dan.9:25). Here we are talking about making an important decision - building the Temple not made with hands. In the ninth chapter of the book of Daniel (Dan.9:25), continuing to count the years unto the Messiah the Prince, Scripture confirms the correctness of the specified date.

“from the going foorth of the commandement to restore and to build Ierusalem, vnto the Messiah the Prince, shall be seuen weekes” (Dan.9:25)

Christ will become the Messiah the Prince on the DAY of Pentecost, December 28 - 29, 2069. The 49 prophetic years contain 17640 days. After counting down the days, we find that the commandment “to restore and to build Ierusalem” will be issued on Sunday, September 12, 2021. 49 prophetic years are counted from this date “vnto the Messiah the Prince”..." 

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1 hour ago, Konstantin said:

This event will take place at the end of the Millennium. The rapture of the "Church of the first born" (Heb. 12:23) will take place in less than a month.

"September 18, 2020 is the starting point for a new period of time, lasting 50 prophetic years. This date corresponds to the first day of the first month in the prophetic reckoning of years. In the tenth chapter of the book of Ezra, Scripture speaks of the events that will take place in the Tabernacle of heaven after Church of the first born is gathered there. Notice, Scripture uses a new count of time.

And they “sate downe in the first day of the tenth moneth to examine the matter” (Ezra.10:16)

If we count 270 days (nine prophetic months) from the date of September 18, 2020, then the next (271 days) will be “the first day of the tenth moneth” - June 15, 2021, this is the day when the Church of the first born will enter the heavenly Tabernacle for the first time. It is said: And they “sate downe …”

And the meeting will make an important decision after three months:

“And they made an ende, with all the men that had taken strange wiues, by the first day of the first moneth” (Ezra.10:17)

The first day of the first month (already the next prophetic year) will be Monday, September 13, 2021. By this day, on the eve of it, the command “to restore and to build Ierusalem” will be issued (Dan.9:25). Here we are talking about making an important decision - building the Temple not made with hands. In the ninth chapter of the book of Daniel (Dan.9:25), continuing to count the years unto the Messiah the Prince, Scripture confirms the correctness of the specified date.

“from the going foorth of the commandement to restore and to build Ierusalem, vnto the Messiah the Prince, shall be seuen weekes” (Dan.9:25)

Christ will become the Messiah the Prince on the DAY of Pentecost, December 28 - 29, 2069. The 49 prophetic years contain 17640 days. After counting down the days, we find that the commandment “to restore and to build Ierusalem” will be issued on Sunday, September 12, 2021. 49 prophetic years are counted from this date “vnto the Messiah the Prince”..." 

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http://www.lordway.ru/English/otrasl/otrasl_2.htm

June 15th?! That's the day our nutty Governor here in VA drops the mask mandate and I'm gonna miss out on that! 😩

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Konstantin, You have been told before that this website requires that scripture quotes be posted from the KJV. Your most recent post is not KJV. This requirement is clearly posted in the website rules.

If you continue to post scripture that is not KJV it will be deleted.

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Matthew 25:13
Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.

Mark 13:32
But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.

Konstantin, what part of no man knows the day or the hour do you not agree with? By the way, that is the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ, who stated that. If you disagree with Jesus and His Word, then your opinions are just vain philosophy.

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2 hours ago, Jim_Alaska said:

Konstantin, You have been told before that this website requires that scripture quotes be posted from the KJV. Your most recent post is not KJV. This requirement is clearly posted in the website rules.

If you continue to post scripture that is not KJV it will be deleted.

Modern "Christians" are "slow bellies" (Tit.1:12)(KJV1611)

12. You removed this text because it speaks truth. https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/1611_Titus-Chapter-1/ 

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What is with some people posting random comments or verses that have nothing to do with the topic at hand?

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Konstantin, In the first place I did not remove any text at all. In the second place I was talking about the quote you posted from lordway,ru. What follows is a copy and paste of that quote and it is not KJV.

“from the going foorth of the commandement to restore and to build Ierusalem, vnto the Messiah the Prince, shall be seuen weekes” (Dan.9:25)

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2 hours ago, Jim_Alaska said:

Konstantin, In the first place I did not remove any text at all. In the second place I was talking about the quote you posted from lordway,ru. What follows is a copy and paste of that quote and it is not KJV.

“from the going foorth of the commandement to restore and to build Ierusalem, vnto the Messiah the Prince, shall be seuen weekes” (Dan.9:25)

Ok.

 

25"from the going foorth of the commandement to restore and to build Ierusalem, vnto the Messiah the Prince, shall be seuen weekes" (Dan.9:25) (KJV1611) https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/1611_Daniel-Chapter-9/ 

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12 hours ago, Jim_Alaska said:

Konstantin, You have been told before that this website requires that scripture quotes be posted from the KJV. Your most recent post is not KJV. This requirement is clearly posted in the website rules.

If you continue to post scripture that is not KJV it will be deleted.

Actually, Brother Jim, I am compelled to express a correction - That which Konstantin presented above IS quoted from the King James translation, specifically from the that which is presented in the 1611 King James translation (including the 1611 spellings and punctuation).

(Note: Although I am compelled to express this correction, I do NOT stand in agreement with the doctrinal position that Konstantin has presented in his above posting.  I suppose that this would make me one of those "slow bellies," huh.  However, I do not stand in agreement because I would contend that Konstantin's posting above has wrested passages of Scripture out of their context.) 

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Thank you Brother Scott for this correction, I stand corrected. This archaic spelling always irks me when it is so easy to post normal every day spelling.

For me this kind of thing makes Scripture difficult to read and comprehend. I don't know about anyone else, but I get bogged down in zeroing in on the spelling at the expense of the actual Scripture.

To Konstatin, my sincere apologies for my misunderstood reprimand.

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3 hours ago, Pastor Scott Markle said:

Actually, Brother Jim, I am compelled to express a correction - That which Konstantin presented above IS quoted from the King James translation, specifically from the that which is presented in the 1611 King James translation (including the 1611 spellings and punctuation).

(Note: Although I am compelled to express this correction, I do NOT stand in agreement with the doctrinal position that Konstantin has presented in his above posting.  I suppose that this would make me one of those "slow bellies," huh.  However, I do not stand in agreement because I would contend that Konstantin's posting above has wrested passages of Scripture out of their context.) 

He may have you as a "slow belly" but he has me missing the Rapture altogether.

The other week a beloved brother in the Lord called me a "little devil" because I told him he shouldn't be calling a certain pastor a cult leader in league with the RCC because his church rents a building owned by the Knights of Columbus to hold services. 

Christians can be really funny at times. 

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6 minutes ago, SureWord said:

He may have you as a "slow belly" but he has me missing the Rapture altogether.

The other week a beloved brother in the Lord called me a "little devil" because I told him he shouldn't be calling a certain pastor a cult leader in league with the RCC because his church rents a building owned by the Knights of Columbus to hold services. Of course, this brother believes in "house churches" and pastors one himself with the membership of himself, his wife and his child.

Christians can be really funny at times. 

 

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On 5/25/2021 at 4:36 PM, Jim_Alaska said:

Thank you Brother Scott for this correction, I stand corrected. This archaic spelling always irks me when it is so easy to post normal every day spelling.

For me this kind of thing makes Scripture difficult to read and comprehend. I don't know about anyone else, but I get bogged down in zeroing in on the spelling at the expense of the actual Scripture.

To Konstatin, my sincere apologies for my misunderstood reprimand.

And I like reading the inspired text of the Bible. God authorized 54 people to translate the KJV1611. 47 of them made this translation. Only one change was made to the KJV1611 by these people. This verse (Ruth 3:15). Here the word "he" has been replaced by the word "she". The rest of the changes were made by other people. God promises these people the following things:

18For I testifie vnto euery man that heareth the wordes of the prophesie of this booke, If any man shal adde vnto these things, God shall adde vnto him the plagues, that are written in this booke.

19And if any man shall take away from the wordes of the booke of this prophesie, God shal take away his part out of the booke of life, and out of the holy citie, and from the things which are written in this booke. (Rev.22:18,19) (KJV1611)

Below are just a few of the changes these people have made over the course of three hundred years:

“And she laid vp his garment by her, vntill her lord came home” (Gen.39:16) (KJV1611)
“And she laid vp his garment by her, vntill his lord came home” (Gen.39:16) (FakeKJV)

“her” -- (KJV1611)
“his” -- (FakeKJV)

“and one lambe without blemish” (Num.6:14) (KJV1611)
“and one ram without blemish” (Num.6:14) (FakeKJV)

“which the Lord giueth” (Deut.26:1) (KJV1611)
“which the Lord thy God giveth” (Deut.26:1) (FakeKJV)

“fierce wrath of God is vpon you” (2Chron.28:11) (KJV1611)
“fierce wrath of the Lord is upon you” (2Chron.28:11) (FakeKJV)

“Why then doth their king inherit God” (Jer.49:1) (KJV1611)
“why then doth their king inherit Gad” (Jer.49:1) (FakeKJV)

“Is not the meate cut off before your eyes” (Joel.1:16) (KJV1611)
“Is not the meat cut off before our eyes” (Joel.1:16) (FakeKJV)

“The seruant is not greater then the Lord” (John.15:20) (KJV1611)
“The servant is not greater than his lord” (John.15:20) (FakeKJV)

“halfe tribe of Manasseh” (Josh.13:29) (KJV1611)
“half tribe of the children of Manasseh” (Josh.13:29) (FakeKJV)

“and his wiues sonnes grew vp” (Judg.11:2) (KJV1611)
“and his wife’s sons grew up” (Judg.11:2) (FakeKJV)

“Dauid arose, hee and his men” (1Sam.18:27) (KJV1611)
“David arose and went, he and his men” (1Sam.18:27) (FakeKJV)

“And his seruant said to him” (1Sam.28:7) (KJV1611)
“And his servants said to him” (1Sam.28:7) (FakeKJV)

“that were in the Temple” (1Kings.11:10) (KJV1611)
“that were in the temple of the Lord” (1Kibgs.11:10) (FakeKJV)

“were men of might” (1Chron.7:5) (KJV1611)
“were valiant men of might” (1Chron.7:5) (FakeKJV)

“where the slaine are, there is he” (Job.39:30) (KJV1611)
“where the slain are, there is she” (Job.39:30) (FakeKJV)

“whome yee had set at libertie” (Jer.34:16) (KJV1611)
“whom he had set at liberty” (Jer.34:16) (FakeKJV)

“So the king sware secretly” (Jer.38:16) (KJV1611)
“So Zedekiah the king sware secretly” (Jer.38:16) (FakeKJV)

“vnto thy people” (Ezek.3:11) (KJV1611)
“unto the children of thy people” (Ezek.3:11) (FakeKJV)

“Is this the sonne of Dauid?” (Matt.12:23) (KJV1611)
“Is not this the son of David?” (Matt.12:23) (FakeKJV)

“perfect vnderstanding of things” (Luke.1:3) (KJV1611)
“perfect understanding of all things” (Luke.1:3) (FakeKJV)

“the redemption that is in Iesus Christ” (Rom.3:24) (KJV1611)
“the redemption that is in Christ Jesus” (Rom.3:24) (FakeKJV)

“helpes in gouernmēts, diuersities of tongues” (1Cor.12:28) (KJV1611)
“helps, governments, diversities of tongues” (1Cor.12:28) (Fake1611)

“another of the moone” (1Cor.15:41) (KJV1611)
“and another glory of the moon” (1Cor.15:41) (FakeKJV)

“For in this we grone earnestly, desiring to be clothed” (2Cor.5:2) (KJV1611)
“For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed” (2Cor.5:2) (FakeKJV)

“the King, kept the citie with a garison” (2Cor.11:32) (KJV1611)
“the king kept the city of the Damascenes with a garrison” (2Cor.11:32) (FakeKJV)

“rather then edifying” (1Tim.1:4) (KJV1611)
“rather than godly edifying” (1Tim.1:4) (FakeKJV)

“and enuies, and euill speaking” (1Pet.2:1) (KJV1611)
“and envies, and all evil speakings” (1Pet.2:1) (FakeKJV)

“hee that hath not the Sonne, hath not life” (1John.5:12) (KJV1611)
“he that hath not the Son of God hath not life” (1John.5:12) (FakeKJV)

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I can't open the website given, not even on my phone, so I have to wonder what the issue here is. This all sounds suspiciously like 7th Day Adventism-related stuff. 

And this idea of picking verses out of scripture, like Ezra, that are purely historical, and using them to set dates and times of prophetic events, with absolutely nothing in the context to assume it to be related to prophecy of ANY kind, is the mark of a cult, that there is someone who has been given some special knowledge that is outside of the basic understanding of scripture. 

Konstantine, what organization is this? Why so hard to open their site? Who are they? Who is their leader? You're clearly cutting and pasting from the site, please tell me how we are to understand, within context, that Ezra, a historical book, speaking of things they did then, is supposed to be interpreted as prophecy, particularly of Christ's return and things of the end? How was this come upon? To whom did God give this particular word of knowledge, and when?  

Edit: I DID find out that .ru domains are Russian Union, which is probably why we can't open them. Too suspicious.

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Picking a date and saying that is when the rapture will happen reminds me of a story often told when I was a kid growing up in the Shenandoah Valley. People said it was a true story.

The story goes that a local, country church studies Revelantion and determined that it would happen on such and such a date. On the day of the Rapture a church member, a farmer, climbed up onto the top of his hay stack to watch. A neighbor, who did not believe their forecast slipped up on his blind side and set the hay stack on fire. Suddenly the farmer smelled smoke and saw flames coming up. It was reported that he exclaimed; 

"Just as I suspected, I'm in hell."

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11 hours ago, SureWord said:

He's pretending he was raptured on June 15th.

Man. Was that supposed to be this June 15th? I lost track of time. O well. Maybe next rapture.

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