Jump to content
Online Baptist Community
  • Newest Sermon Entry

    • By Jim_Alaska in Jim_Alaska's Sermons & Devotionals
         14
      Closed Communion
      James Foley
       
      I Corinthians 11:17-34: "Now in this that I declare unto you I praise you not, that ye come together not for the better, but for the worse. For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it. For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you. When ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat the Lord's Supper. For in eating every one taketh before other his own supper: and one is hungry, and another is drunken. What? have ye not houses to eat and to drink in? or despise ye the church of God, and shame them that have not? What shall I say to you? shall I praise you in this? I praise you not. For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread: And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me. For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do show the Lord's death till he come. Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord. But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup. For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body. For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep. For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged. But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world. Wherefore, my brethren, when ye come together to eat, tarry one for another. And if any man hunger, let him eat at home; that ye come not together unto condemnation. And the rest will I set in order when I come."

      INTRODUCTION

      Historic Baptists, true Baptists, have believed in and still believe in closed communion. Baptists impose upon themselves the same restrictions that they impose on others concerning the Lord’s Supper. Baptists have always insisted that it is the Lord’s Table, not theirs; and He alone has the right to say who shall sit at His table. No amount of so called brotherly love, or ecumenical spirit, should cause us to invite to His table those who have not complied with the requirements laid down plainly in His inspired Word. With respect to Bible doctrines we must always use the scripture as our guide and practice. For Baptists, two of the most important doctrines are Baptism and The Lord’s Supper. These are the only two doctrines we recognize as Church Ordinances. The Bible is very clear in teaching how these doctrines are to be practiced and by whom.

      We only have two ordinances that we must never compromise or we risk our very existence, they are Baptism and The Lord’s Supper.

      The moment we deviate from the precise method God has prescribed we have started down the slippery slope of error. True Baptists have held fast to the original doctrine of The Lord’s Supper from the time of Christ and the Apostles.

      Unfortunately, in this day of what the Bible describes as the age of luke warmness, Baptists are becoming careless in regard to strictly following the pattern laid out for us in Scripture. Many of our Bible colleges are graduating otherwise sincere, Godly and dedicated pastors and teachers who have not been taught the very strict, biblical requirements that surround the Lord’s Supper. Any Bible college that neglects to teach its students the differences surrounding Closed Communion, Close Communion and Open Communion is not simply short changing its students; it is also not equipping their students to carry on sound Bible traditions. The result is men of God and churches that fall into error. And as we will see, this is serious error.

      Should we as Baptists ignore the restrictions made by our Lord and Master? NO! When we hold to the restrictions placed upon the Lord’s Supper by our Master, we are defending the "faith which was once delivered to the saints" Jude 3.

      The Lord’s Supper is rigidly restricted and I will show this in the following facts:

      IT IS RESTRICTED AS TO PLACE

      A. I Corinthians 11:18 says, "When ye come together in the church." This does not mean the church building; they had none. In other words, when the church assembles. The supper is to be observed by the church, in church capacity. Again this does not mean the church house. Ekklesia, the Greek word for church, means assembly. "When ye come together in the church," is when the church assembles.

      B. When we say church we mean an assembly of properly baptized believers. Acts 2:41-42: "Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls. And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers."

      The church is made up of saved people who are baptized by immersion. In the Bible, belief precedes baptism. That’s the Bible way.

      Acts 8:12-13, "But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women. Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized, he continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles and signs which were done."

      When we say properly baptized, we mean immersed. No unbeliever should take the Lord’s supper, and no non-immersed believer should take the supper. Those who are sprinkled are not baptized and cannot receive the supper. The Greek word for baptize is baptizo, and it always means to immerse.

      "In every case where communion is referred to, or where it may possibly have been administered, the believers had been baptized Acts 2:42; 8:12; 8:38; 10:47; 6:14-15; 18:8; 20:7. Baptism comes before communion, just as repentance and faith precede baptism".

      C. The Lord’s Supper is for baptized believers in church capacity: "When ye come together in the church," again not a building, but the assembly of the properly baptized believers.

      D. The fact that the Lord’s Supper is a church ordinance, to be observed in church capacity, is pointed out by the fact that it is for those who have been immersed and added to the fellowship of the church.

      E. The Lord’s Supper is never spoken of in connection with individuals. When it is referred to, it is only referred to in reference to baptized believers in local church capacity I Cor. 11:20-26).

      I want to quote Dr. W.W. Hamilton,

      "The individual administration of the ordinance has no Bible warrant and is a relic of Romanism. The Lord’s Supper is a church ordinance, and anything which goes beyond or comes short of this fails for want of scriptural example or command".

      “The practice of taking a little communion kit to hospitals, nursing homes, etc. is unscriptural and does not follow the scriptural example.”

      IT IS RESTRICTED TO A UNITED CHURCH

      A. The Bible in I Cor. 11:18 is very strong in condemning divisions around the Lord’s table. For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it.
      19 For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.
      20 When ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat the Lord's supper.

      There were no less than four divisions in the Corinthian church.
      I Cor. 1:12: "Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ."

      Because of these divisions, it was impossible for them to scripturally eat the Lord’s Supper. Division in the local church is reason to hold off observing the Lord’s Supper. But there are also other reasons to forego taking the Lord’s Supper. If there is gross sin in the membership we do not take it. Here is scriptural evidence for this: 1Co 5:7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our Passover is sacrificed for us:
      8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth. 9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:
      10 Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. 11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

      B. At this point, I want to ask these questions: Are there not doctrinal divisions among the many denominations? Is it not our doctrinal differences that cause us to be separate religious bodies?

      IT IS RESTRICTED BY DOCTRINE

      A. Those in the early church at Jerusalem who partook "continued stedfastly in the apostles’ doctrine" Acts 2:42. And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.

      B. Those that do not hold to apostolic truth are not to partake. This means there is to be discipline in the local body. How can you discipline those who do not belong to the local body? You can’t. The clear command of scripture is to withdraw fellowship from those who are not doctrinally sound.

      II Thes 3:6: "Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us."
      Rom. 16:17: "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them."
      To commune together means to have the same doctrine.
      II Thes. 2:15: "Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle."
      II John 10-11: "If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds."

      C. Some Baptists in our day have watered down this doctrine by practicing what they call “Close Communion.” By this they mean that they believe that members of another Baptist church may take communion with us because they are of the same beliefs. Once again, this is unscriptural.

      The welcome to the Lord's Table should not be extended beyond the discipline of the local church. When we take the Lord’s Supper there is supposed to be no gross sin among us and no divisions among us. We have no idea of the spiritual condition of another church’s members. If there is sin or division in the case of this other church’s members, we have no way of knowing it. We cannot discipline them because they are not members of our church. This is why we practice “Closed” communion, meaning it is restricted solely to our church membership. 
      So then, in closing I would like to reiterate the three different ideas concerning the Lord’s Supper and who is to take it. 
      Closed Communion = Only members of a single local church. 
      Close Communion = Members of like faith and order may partake. 
      Open Communion = If you claim to be a Christian, or simply attending the service, you may partake. 
      It is no small thing to attempt to change that which was implemented by our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. 
      Mt. 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen. 
      Many of our Baptist churches have a real need to consider the gravity of the act of observing The Lord’s Supper. It is not a light thing that is to be taken casually or without regard to the spiritual condition of ourselves or our church.
      1Co. 11:27 Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.

       28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.

       29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.

       30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.

Counsel Needed About KJV Compromise


Recommended Posts

  • Administrators
1 hour ago, robycop3 said:

  However, if anyone wishes to discuss KJVO with me,  (and others) you may find me on the "Baptist Board" site, where I post as "robycop3".

You may rest assured that I will not be going to that board seeking to discuss or find you at any time soon, or ever in fact.

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Independent Fundamental Baptist
10 hours ago, WellWithMySoul said:

To the others discussing the differences in versions, it's all good - but what I really need is counsel on - is how to have godly integrity/attitude in my heart first, in my mind/thoughts, and in my words/behaviours concerning a response to our pastor. 

WWMS,

I sincerely apologize for my part in this; please forgive me.

I pray that the Lord will give you wisdom and understanding in how to handle your current situation.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Independent Fundamental Baptist

Thank you, NN, it was kind of you to apologize and to be considerate - even though I was not at all offended.  I certainly understand the passion behind standing on God's Word.  I am always aware of John 1:1!  Truly, if we were physically face to face with the Saviour would we have the audacity to basically "correct" His words to make them easier to understand?  Perhaps that's not the best of illustrations because of the translation to English, but to me concerning the KJV, it is.  Aren't people just trying to "bring God down to their level of understanding" rather than to trust and to be continually growing up in Him?  Anyway, yes, I could go on and on for I too have a passion about fearing Him and desiring to be transformed more and more to His likeness, His way, His timing, and by His workmanship.  My KJV has never failed me, and when I don't understand verses or passages, I ask Him to teach me what He wants me to understand and know; "...Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, sayeth the LORD of hosts" (Zech. 4:6b). 

We are still praying about our response to our pastor first seeking meekness (II Tim. 2:25).   I know that the Lord will bring right thoughts and all utterance according to His purpose as we seek His will and way and avail ourselves to Him.  Even as I sit here thinking of all of this, I'm just so saddened.  Perhaps if the Lord leads any to post some scripture about how to handle compromise with a right heart, it would truly be helpful.

Thank you again, NN.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Independent Fundamental Baptist
On ‎5‎/‎14‎/‎2020 at 9:00 AM, WellWithMySoul said:

  That particular verse was James 1:4 - "But let patience have her perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, wanting nothing." The NKJV uses the word "lacking" (or a form of that) instead of "wanting".  To me, that was a significant difference.  "Lacking nothing" to me, means there could be more - while "wanting nothing" means that it's "perfect and entire"!

 

"Want" or "wanting" in the 1600's was often used with the meaning "lack" or "lacking" so there would not be a significant difference.

At James 1:4, D. A. Waite's Defined King James Bible gives the following definition for "wanting:"  "lacking, needing."

At the entry for "want," David W. Daniels in his booklet The King James Bible Companion gave this definition:  "lack, be deficient" (Deut. 28:48).

At its entry for "want," David Cloud in his Concise King James Bible Dictionary gave this definition:  "to lack" (John 2:3) (p. 95). 

In his book entitled Archaic Words and the Authorized Version, Laurence M. Vance wrote:  "The word want in the AV is never used in the sense of desire but rather with the older meaning of lacking or deficient in" (p. 370).

Edited by Tyndale
Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Independent Fundamental Baptist

I have read the KJV over 50 years.   I do not think that my love for and reading of the KJV would entitle me as a believer to approve the making of any unrighteous judgments concerning the NKJV.

John 7:24

Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

According to superficial appearance, the NKJV may be said to be missing the name "God" 51 times where it is found in the KJV.

Do those who seem to judge according to the appearance check more carefully to see whether the name "God" is found in the Hebrew Masoretic text or in the Greek Textus Receptus in all those places?

According to righteous judgment, can the NKJV be said to remove or omit the name "God" 51 times where it is found in the Hebrew Masoretic OT text and Greek Textus Receptus NT text from which the KJV is translated?

At 2 Samuel 20:20, the 1560 Geneva Bible and the 1568 Bishops' Bible have "God forbid" twice while the 1611 KJV has "Far be it" twice.   Would it be righteous judgment to claim that the KJV removes or omits the name of God twice at 2 Samuel 20:20?  I don't think so since the name of "God" is not in the Hebrew Masoretic text for those words "God forbid."  If I apply the same exact measures/standards justly to the NKJV that I would apply to the KJV concerning 2 Samuel 20:20, I cannot justly claim that it removes the name "God" in verses where the name of God is not found in the Hebrew Masoretic text or in the Textus Receptus.  

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Independent Fundamental Baptist

Thank you for sharing your knowledge; I appreciate it.  I have a lot to learn!  Bunches!  I am, though, already fully persuaded concerning the version issues. 

I started this thread, however, seeking some godly and wise counsel concerning a right attitude and that which is pleasing and glorifying to the Lord - concerning heart matters.  Thank you again to those who have made wise suggestions!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Independent Fundamental Baptist

In seeking to determine and prove what is acceptable to the Lord (Eph. 5:10), the characteristics of the wisdom from God above should be considered.

James 3:17

But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 2 weeks later...
  • Independent Fundamental Baptist

I have a few "tears" in my heart, yet a joyous smile on my face.  First, I received some very godly counsel from my sister in Missouri concerning this matter.  She goes to a little baptist church there that uses the KJV.  Her suggestions were very simple, but also quite wise.  Considering the things shared in this thread along with her thoughts truly gave me a peace.  I have continued to pray about it all, but also truly cast the burden of it to the Lord, and have been waiting upon Him.

(I just wanted to clarify that in the previous post that I made when speaking of James 1:4, I said a couple of times "TO ME..." because that is the way I take it - to me, why change a word that is easy to understand as is, to another word that is supposedly synonymous?    Again, I'm very thankful to be fully persuaded about the KJV.)

Just today, my husband was able to kindly and respectfully address the question to our pastor.  There is no way that I can verbalize our pastor's response, but that is why I started this post as I did.  I have a joyous smile because the Lord answered my prayers, but I am saddened by the pastor's response. 

Perhaps we are "marked and viewed" as "more staunch" about the KJV now, but we will not be contentious or divisive about it.  Is this just the beginning of a "downward slide" (as Ukulelemike referred to it as)?  O how I love the folks in our little church...  I am so glad that the Lord knows my heart.

James 1:5

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited by WellWithMySoul
Spelling
Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Independent Fundamental Baptist

I would rather know the Word, than just to know about it.  I would rather know the Lord Jesus Christ, than just to know about Him.  I would rather seek knowledge followed by understanding, spiritual discernment, and wisdom...than just to count on Biblical intellect.  I would rather not give precedence to time spent in the Word, but rather focus on a walk of faithfulness with a spirit of meekness in obedience to it.  I would rather shew myself approved unto God, than to put on an air and a show for mankind.  I would rather come to the light and have error exposed and reproved by His loving chastening, than to compromise with sin in the darkness.  I would rather that the Lord's workmanship within me shine outwardly, than to "spit-shine" my appearance.  I would rather follow after charity with the truth, than to sully it with contentiousness and unrighteous anger.  I would rather face my needs head-on looking to Him for provision, than to attempt to compete with Him by looking to my own belly.  I would rather that I feared and loved the Lord my God with all of my heart, soul, mind, and strength keeping Him as the "apple of my eye"...hoping to hear, "Well done thou good and faithful servant"...rather than to ever hear the words or to know that there is anything hindering my personal fellowship with my LORD that He could say, "I have somewhat against thee" (though He is referring to the churches in Revelation).

I would rather to be continually and progressively conforming to His image, transformed by the renewing of my mind, and growing more and more into His likeness as His child.  I would rather be fruitful to His glory as I learn and apply more and more of His ways and thoughts in my life, rather than to become stuck and stagnant and lukewarm. I would rather be peculiar, than to be common.  I would rather measure, examine, and judge myself rightly and honestly by His Holiness, remembering that in and of myself I can do no good thing without Him.

WWMS - O how I need Him....

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 3 weeks later...
  • Members

Just a heads up, I know "robycop3" aka "steelmaker" from a forum I frequented years ago. Not only does he believe ALL versions of the bible are full of errors he believes the original autographs themselves were not without errors (unless he's changed his position since that time). Ask him yourself if you do not believe me. His ministry is to roam from forum to forum attacking and questioning the KJV.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Independent Fundamental Baptist

Disagreeing with human, non-scriptural KJV-only reasoning would not be actually the same thing as attacking the KJV.

Perhaps some may jump to a false conclusion based on use of the fallacy of false dilemma that would suggest that if someone does not believe a KJV-only view that they have to believe that all versions of the Bible are full of errors. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members
52 minutes ago, Tyndale said:

Disagreeing with human, non-scriptural KJV-only reasoning would not be actually the same thing as attacking the KJV.

Perhaps some may jump to a false conclusion based on use of the fallacy of false dilemma that would suggest that if someone does not believe a KJV-only view that they have to believe that all versions of the Bible are full of errors. 

Not sure if you are responding to my post but my intent was to point out "robycop3" (also known as "steelmaker on other forums) doesn't even believe the original manuscripts were without error (at least a few years back he didn't) and even admitted so to me when I pressured him for an answer. So any discussion with him about preservation, infallibility, inerrancy, translations, etc etc are a waste of time since he doesn't even believe the inspired originals (I'm referring to the original originals not the Textus Receptus and Masoretic like some erroneously like to call the originals) were without errors.

Do you at least believe the originals autographs written by the prophets and apostles are without errors?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Independent Fundamental Baptist

Good morning to the last two posters!  Indeed, it is a glorious morning in my neck of the woods!  If you would please take your discussion concerning versions to another thread with that subject, it would be greatly appreciated.  As I stated in the OP and then another time, this thread was started with the sincere desire asking for wise counsel about heart matters.  Again I will say that I am fully persuaded about the versions issues...it' s not knowledge that I'm seeking, but rather wisdom (James 1:5) and counsel ("...multitude of counsellors...).  Please see my last post.   May you both have a blessed day; "praying without ceasing", praising Him all the day long, and seeking to bring glory to Him in all things.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members
1 hour ago, WellWithMySoul said:

Good morning to the last two posters!  Indeed, it is a glorious morning in my neck of the woods!  If you would please take your discussion concerning versions to another thread with that subject, it would be greatly appreciated.  As I stated in the OP and then another time, this thread was started with the sincere desire asking for wise counsel about heart matters.  Again I will say that I am fully persuaded about the versions issues...it' s not knowledge that I'm seeking, but rather wisdom (James 1:5) and counsel ("...multitude of counsellors...).  Please see my last post.   May you both have a blessed day; "praying without ceasing", praising Him all the day long, and seeking to bring glory to Him in all things.

OK, didn't mean to derail the thread.

I will give you some advice since I was in a similar situation as yours.

Let your pastor know your position on the issue of the KJV but only if the situation demands it. I attended a church where the pastor used the NKJV and routinely corrected the KJV with the "original Greek" even though he never went to college nor could he even read Greek or Hebrew. I just put up with it and followed along his sermons with my KJV. He never really got off into any heresies and some if his messages were still edifying. He was a good man. He was just suckered into using the NKJV thinking it was just an updated KJV.

Unfortunately, he eventually pulled me aside with one of the deacons to interview me about being a Sunday School teacher. I always wanted to be one and I could have just kept silent so as to get the position but I felt I needed to be clear about my position on the KJV. Well, I could see the expression on his face change to almost horror or maybe disbelief when I told him. I knew then I wasn't going to be a Sunday School teacher or be called on about anything else in that church.

Incidentally, during the interview the deacon came out and agreed with me which shocked the pastor even more. Within a few months the pastor tried voting out that godly, aged saint and replace him with a man only saved a few months before but who owned a business involved in building our church a new building. The church voted against the pastor. The pastor eventual got his church built than resigned.

One good thing that came out of the whole debacle is I became friends with an missionary/evangelist who attended that church, who through years of friendship and working on him about the KJV, finally started his own King James bible believing church in Upstate New York.

So my advice is stay put unless he becomes heretical and no longer edifying , be patient, don't force the issue unless it comes to you but when it does state your position and let the chips fall where they may. Something good will eventually come of this.

Edited by SureWord
Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members
19 hours ago, SureWord said:

OK, didn't mean to derail the thread.

I will give you some advice since I was in a similar situation as yours.

Let your pastor know your position on the issue of the KJV but only if the situation demands it. I attended a church where the pastor used the NKJV and routinely corrected the KJV with the "original Greek" even though he never went to college nor could he even read Greek or Hebrew. I just put up with it and followed along his sermons with my KJV. He never really got off into any heresies and some if his messages were still edifying. He was a good man. He was just suckered into using the NKJV thinking it was just an updated KJV.

Unfortunately, he eventually pulled me aside with one of the deacons to interview me about being a Sunday School teacher. I always wanted to be one and I could have just kept silent so as to get the position but I felt I needed to be clear about my position on the KJV. Well, I could see the expression on his face change to almost horror or maybe disbelief when I told him. I knew then I wasn't going to be a Sunday School teacher or be called on about anything else in that church.

Incidentally, during the interview the deacon came out and agreed with me which shocked the pastor even more. Within a few months the pastor tried voting out that godly, aged saint and replace him with a man only saved a few months before but who owned a business involved in building our church a new building. The church voted against the pastor. The pastor eventual got his church built than resigned.

One good thing that came out of the whole debacle is I became friends with an missionary/evangelist who attended that church, who through years of friendship and working on him about the KJV, finally started his own King James bible believing church in Upstate New York.

So my advice is stay put unless he becomes heretical and no longer edifying , be patient, don't force the issue unless it comes to you but when it does state your position and let the chips fall where they may. Something good will eventually come of this.

If someone feels so strongly about the KJVO position, then would see them obligated to either keep quit, or else go elsewhere, as the pastor and Elders have authority to teach from whatever translation they deem right!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members
1 hour ago, DaChaser said:

If someone feels so strongly about the KJVO position, then would see them obligated to either keep quit, or else go elsewhere, as the pastor and Elders have authority to teach from whatever translation they deem right!

Wow, just wow. This reminds me how liberals say we need to keep our religion to ourselves inside our house.

Now, I'm not saying to cause a ruckus in the church about it but if the pastor brings up the issue to me I have every right before God to let him know where I stand. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Independent Fundamental Baptist

Sigh!  Please consider the title of this thread, and ALL of my posts!  Godly counsel for the heart is what I've been seeking; WISE counsel!  Thank you to SureWord for your last post...I appreciate that you shared your own personal experience.  It is time now for this thread to close.  In a previous post I expressed that this matter has since been dealt with.  One last request that I have is Proverbs 18:13 - "He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him".  

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.
 Share

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Who's Online   1 Member, 0 Anonymous, 12 Guests (See full list)

×
×
  • Create New...