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      James Foley
       
      I Corinthians 11:17-34: "Now in this that I declare unto you I praise you not, that ye come together not for the better, but for the worse. For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it. For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you. When ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat the Lord's Supper. For in eating every one taketh before other his own supper: and one is hungry, and another is drunken. What? have ye not houses to eat and to drink in? or despise ye the church of God, and shame them that have not? What shall I say to you? shall I praise you in this? I praise you not. For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread: And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me. For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do show the Lord's death till he come. Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord. But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup. For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body. For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep. For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged. But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world. Wherefore, my brethren, when ye come together to eat, tarry one for another. And if any man hunger, let him eat at home; that ye come not together unto condemnation. And the rest will I set in order when I come."

      INTRODUCTION

      Historic Baptists, true Baptists, have believed in and still believe in closed communion. Baptists impose upon themselves the same restrictions that they impose on others concerning the Lord’s Supper. Baptists have always insisted that it is the Lord’s Table, not theirs; and He alone has the right to say who shall sit at His table. No amount of so called brotherly love, or ecumenical spirit, should cause us to invite to His table those who have not complied with the requirements laid down plainly in His inspired Word. With respect to Bible doctrines we must always use the scripture as our guide and practice. For Baptists, two of the most important doctrines are Baptism and The Lord’s Supper. These are the only two doctrines we recognize as Church Ordinances. The Bible is very clear in teaching how these doctrines are to be practiced and by whom.

      We only have two ordinances that we must never compromise or we risk our very existence, they are Baptism and The Lord’s Supper.

      The moment we deviate from the precise method God has prescribed we have started down the slippery slope of error. True Baptists have held fast to the original doctrine of The Lord’s Supper from the time of Christ and the Apostles.

      Unfortunately, in this day of what the Bible describes as the age of luke warmness, Baptists are becoming careless in regard to strictly following the pattern laid out for us in Scripture. Many of our Bible colleges are graduating otherwise sincere, Godly and dedicated pastors and teachers who have not been taught the very strict, biblical requirements that surround the Lord’s Supper. Any Bible college that neglects to teach its students the differences surrounding Closed Communion, Close Communion and Open Communion is not simply short changing its students; it is also not equipping their students to carry on sound Bible traditions. The result is men of God and churches that fall into error. And as we will see, this is serious error.

      Should we as Baptists ignore the restrictions made by our Lord and Master? NO! When we hold to the restrictions placed upon the Lord’s Supper by our Master, we are defending the "faith which was once delivered to the saints" Jude 3.

      The Lord’s Supper is rigidly restricted and I will show this in the following facts:

      IT IS RESTRICTED AS TO PLACE

      A. I Corinthians 11:18 says, "When ye come together in the church." This does not mean the church building; they had none. In other words, when the church assembles. The supper is to be observed by the church, in church capacity. Again this does not mean the church house. Ekklesia, the Greek word for church, means assembly. "When ye come together in the church," is when the church assembles.

      B. When we say church we mean an assembly of properly baptized believers. Acts 2:41-42: "Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls. And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers."

      The church is made up of saved people who are baptized by immersion. In the Bible, belief precedes baptism. That’s the Bible way.

      Acts 8:12-13, "But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women. Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized, he continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles and signs which were done."

      When we say properly baptized, we mean immersed. No unbeliever should take the Lord’s supper, and no non-immersed believer should take the supper. Those who are sprinkled are not baptized and cannot receive the supper. The Greek word for baptize is baptizo, and it always means to immerse.

      "In every case where communion is referred to, or where it may possibly have been administered, the believers had been baptized Acts 2:42; 8:12; 8:38; 10:47; 6:14-15; 18:8; 20:7. Baptism comes before communion, just as repentance and faith precede baptism".

      C. The Lord’s Supper is for baptized believers in church capacity: "When ye come together in the church," again not a building, but the assembly of the properly baptized believers.

      D. The fact that the Lord’s Supper is a church ordinance, to be observed in church capacity, is pointed out by the fact that it is for those who have been immersed and added to the fellowship of the church.

      E. The Lord’s Supper is never spoken of in connection with individuals. When it is referred to, it is only referred to in reference to baptized believers in local church capacity I Cor. 11:20-26).

      I want to quote Dr. W.W. Hamilton,

      "The individual administration of the ordinance has no Bible warrant and is a relic of Romanism. The Lord’s Supper is a church ordinance, and anything which goes beyond or comes short of this fails for want of scriptural example or command".

      “The practice of taking a little communion kit to hospitals, nursing homes, etc. is unscriptural and does not follow the scriptural example.”

      IT IS RESTRICTED TO A UNITED CHURCH

      A. The Bible in I Cor. 11:18 is very strong in condemning divisions around the Lord’s table. For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it.
      19 For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.
      20 When ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat the Lord's supper.

      There were no less than four divisions in the Corinthian church.
      I Cor. 1:12: "Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ."

      Because of these divisions, it was impossible for them to scripturally eat the Lord’s Supper. Division in the local church is reason to hold off observing the Lord’s Supper. But there are also other reasons to forego taking the Lord’s Supper. If there is gross sin in the membership we do not take it. Here is scriptural evidence for this: 1Co 5:7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our Passover is sacrificed for us:
      8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth. 9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:
      10 Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. 11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

      B. At this point, I want to ask these questions: Are there not doctrinal divisions among the many denominations? Is it not our doctrinal differences that cause us to be separate religious bodies?

      IT IS RESTRICTED BY DOCTRINE

      A. Those in the early church at Jerusalem who partook "continued stedfastly in the apostles’ doctrine" Acts 2:42. And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.

      B. Those that do not hold to apostolic truth are not to partake. This means there is to be discipline in the local body. How can you discipline those who do not belong to the local body? You can’t. The clear command of scripture is to withdraw fellowship from those who are not doctrinally sound.

      II Thes 3:6: "Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us."
      Rom. 16:17: "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them."
      To commune together means to have the same doctrine.
      II Thes. 2:15: "Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle."
      II John 10-11: "If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds."

      C. Some Baptists in our day have watered down this doctrine by practicing what they call “Close Communion.” By this they mean that they believe that members of another Baptist church may take communion with us because they are of the same beliefs. Once again, this is unscriptural.

      The welcome to the Lord's Table should not be extended beyond the discipline of the local church. When we take the Lord’s Supper there is supposed to be no gross sin among us and no divisions among us. We have no idea of the spiritual condition of another church’s members. If there is sin or division in the case of this other church’s members, we have no way of knowing it. We cannot discipline them because they are not members of our church. This is why we practice “Closed” communion, meaning it is restricted solely to our church membership. 
      So then, in closing I would like to reiterate the three different ideas concerning the Lord’s Supper and who is to take it. 
      Closed Communion = Only members of a single local church. 
      Close Communion = Members of like faith and order may partake. 
      Open Communion = If you claim to be a Christian, or simply attending the service, you may partake. 
      It is no small thing to attempt to change that which was implemented by our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. 
      Mt. 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen. 
      Many of our Baptist churches have a real need to consider the gravity of the act of observing The Lord’s Supper. It is not a light thing that is to be taken casually or without regard to the spiritual condition of ourselves or our church.
      1Co. 11:27 Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.

       28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.

       29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.

       30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.

Great signs and fearful sights in the heavens


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Luke 21:10-11

10 Then said he unto them, Nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom:

11 And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven.

Do you think planet X could be the fearful sight?

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There is no evidence that "planet x" exists. So, no. An unknown, unseen object is not a fearful sight, because we cannot see it.

When the fearful sights from Heaven come, there will be no question about it, the whole world would see it with their own eyes. <- my opinion.

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I agree, perhaps these sights and signs will be something that has never been seen or heard of before. It is fearful and great and coming from Heaven of which is said "the eye hath not seen nor the ear heard, neither hath it entered into the heart of man, the things that God has prepared for them that love him.

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If the brethren want to know the scientific truth that debunks the Planet X theory; than listen to the following video by NASA scientist Dr. Morrison. Using a layman's terminology, Dr. Morrison explains why Planet X, Nibiru, or the Brown Star Theory hurtling towards Earth, are all hoax's.

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Invicta said:

Who invented this stuff?

I make no claims of being right, but I would venture to say that all of this  >> "probably"  << came from the folks who put too much stock in the Babylonian's "ancient" Sanskrit writings.

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In my opinion, Hal Lindsey, the Charismatics, started to perpetuate these hoaxes. Occasionally I do an internet search on these hoaxes and now just about every denomination has its share of false prophecies and unscientific wonders in the heavens that they perpetuate to get a crowd.

They, Lindsey, and  the charismatics, than other groups, saw that the amount of money and fame that was generated was huge. Hal Lindsey, the Charismatics, and even some fundamentalists, found some scripture verses that indicate a meteor, or planet, or nuclear explosion,  in the book of Revelation and Zechariah, and are using them as proof-tests.

Brethren, even if the Lord uses meteors, or a planet, or a nuclear blast, to destroy the earth the church should not use it to perpetuate hoaxes.  More than likely meteors do add to the destruction as portrayed in the book of Revelation and Zechariah, but, the current flock of Nibiru''s, Planet X, and the Brown Star Theory, and the current flock of prophecy teachers as Gill Broussard, are false teachers and are perpetuating hoaxes. Even an amateur astronomer knows that that Planet X, Nibriu, the Brown Dwarf Star theory, are unscientific.

All of the "fearful sights in heaven" mentioned in the scripture are a sign to the Jewish remnant in the Tribulation Period. None of the signs in the scripture is for the church.

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About a month or so ago, the sky over much of Britain went dark and turned red.  People were fearful about what was happening.  Someone said to a friend "It was nice knowing you. "

The reason? One of the storms that came over from the US, picked up a lot or sand from a Sahara sand storm on the way and filled the atmosphere with sand.  It happens from time to time.  Sometimes in the past we have gone out to our car in the morning. and it has been covered with sand.

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I have to mention Hal Lindsey and John MacArthur. Some of their "teachings" are dangerous and can be damnable if believed. They believe that you can take the "mark" of the beast" and still be saved. These "preachers" need to retract what they said publicly, that's how much of a serious matter this is. What they fail to realize is that taking the mark gives you the ability to buy, sell, or trade; but it also entails worship towards the beast. And the Word of God explicitly says that the punishment for that is:

And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: (Revelation 14:9,10)

Similar to an execution (but more tormenting because there is no reprieve) where the one being executed is executed in the presence of the victim's family members and friends. It makes it more shameful and intense.

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Daniel

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Daniel,

Thanks for that.  I would agree with you but that if one repents of any sin he can be saved/  The same judgement will come on any who do not repent and have faith in Christ.  The only sin that cannot be forgiven is the sin or blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, rejecting His testimony of the Lord Jesus.

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Hi Invicta,

I haven't read the Hal Lindsey book, but a fellow brethren who has told me that a character in the book unwillingly takes the mark, or forcibly takes the mark. I believe he was asleep. The problem with that is no one "forcibly" takes the mark of the beast unless this individual decides to take it with their free will. Sort of like, "Come one, come all...." I don't see a scenario where someone drags another person, or forcibly to where he HAS to take the mark. It would be like being a blood bought Child of God, you cannot lose your salvation. Those who take the mark take it because they adore and worship the beast (so repentance would be unlikely) who will come as a man of peace and having solution to the world's troubles. He will be idolized and promise to also solve all economic problems this world may have...et al, I do not believe that God will put anyone in a situation where they are forced to take the mark. I believe that God will give everyone the opportunity to "choose".

The "WORLD" will worship him as God, all who have the mark. There is no repentance. "In their hand or head" is usually an allusion to ownership. It can be both literal and figurative.

And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads. (Revelation 22:4)

If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: (Revelation 14:9,10)

And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him? (Revelation 13:4)

God gives us free will to "choose" who we will serve. Those who take the mark choose to serve the beast and worship him. Even Calvinism (which I believe has errors, along with Armininanism) both teach free will. Calvinists believe that we have free will to choose, just that our will isn't free. Either way, we must choose who we want to worship. Worship comes from two words, "Worthy" and "Ship" or "Worth" "Ship". ONLY God gave us the breath of life, to experience the beauty of it, even in the midst of hardship and trials...those are adventures. Our life here is a phase. He Who created us and gave us the ability to experience the endless wonders of what lies ahead in the Eternal State. That alone shows us why He is to worshipped. I have a habit of going off on a tangent, so my apologies for changing the topic from Great signs ("signs" literally means miracles in the Greek, which the beast will do impress the lost), to the Mark of the beast, and unto Worship. Oh well...Interesting thread nonetheless. If anyone feels that I've made a doctrinal error, please feel free to correct me using scripture. I can honestly say that I welcome being corrected if it can be shown irrefutably, that's how we all learn...from our mistakes. I've noticed on other forums, even if you show them the truth with scripture, their dyed in the wool in their false teachings, and regardless of what you write to refute them, they're sticking to it.

God Bless,

Daniel

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The historicist teaching which I follow, believe, come of them anyway, that the mark of the beast is the Catholic sign of the cross given by the right hand on the forehead at 'baptism' and repeated every time they 'cross' themselves.  In the dark ages, no one who did not have this mark could buy and sell. Even in modern Italy, Baptist pastors say their members are sacked from their jobs and evicted from their houses, unless they return to the mother church.''

 

 

 

On 09/08/2017 at 4:02 AM, Rebecca said:

There is no evidence that "planet x" exists. So, no. An unknown, unseen object is not a fearful sight, because we cannot see it.

When the fearful sights from Heaven come, there will be no question about it, the whole world would see it with their own eyes. <- my opinion.

How an it be a fearful sight if no one can see it?

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I wouldn't doubt it...the sign of the RCC Cross. But the point is that only those who "worship" the Beast and the False Prophet will do it. Obviously an unbeliever who isn't a Catholic isn't going to do that. I forgot to mention that a friend of mine told me that the title of the "vicar of Christ" on the Pope equals 3 6's. And Vicar means God's representative here, and is tantamount to claim to be equal with God, who is Christ.

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22 minutes ago, (Omega) said:

I wouldn't doubt it...the sign of the RCC Cross. But the point is that only those who "worship" the Beast and the False Prophet will do it. Obviously an unbeliever who isn't a Catholic isn't going to do that. I forgot to mention that a friend of mine told me that the title of the "vicar of Christ" on the Pope equals 3 6's. And Vicar means God's representative here, and is tantamount to claim to be equal with God, who is Christ.

Same as Vice Christ,  Anti Christ means the same.  Someone in the place of Christ.

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2 hours ago, Invicta said:

The historicist teaching which I follow, believe, come of them anyway, that the mark of the beast is the Catholic sign of the cross given by the right hand on the forehead at 'baptism' and repeated every time they 'cross' themselves.  In the dark ages, no one who did not have this mark could buy and sell. Even in modern Italy, Baptist pastors say their members are sacked from their jobs and evicted from their houses, unless they return to the mother church.''

 

 

 

How an it be a fearful sight if no one can see it?

Which is yet another reason your view is unbiblical.....

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On 8/8/2017 at 7:58 PM, Eric Stahl said:

Luke 21:10-11

10 Then said he unto them, Nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom:

11 And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven.

Do you think planet X could be the fearful sight?

"And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars; so as the third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise." (Revelation 8:12). 

This is not the only fearful sight that will occur in the tribulation... in fact, the majority of the scriptural content in that chapter deals with such things. Far too much scripture to quote here. 

As for "planet x/nibiru"  there is no such thing.  There a great many wolves in sheep's clothing perpetuating these lies, deceiving the gullible. I agree with many of the brethren (above) in their opinions of those whom have started and continue to perpetuate this nonsense. Two other names come to mind: Paul Begley and Steven DeNoon, both of which produce "shock factor" videos, and are plastered all over social media (sadly). They use scare tactics to promote "survival" products.  They prey on those who do not study the Bible, and do not know scripture themselves. So much so that when claim something to be scripturally sound, the gullible and those who do not study scripture themselves, are easily deceived. There is a solution to this... when believers study scripture themselves (as we are told to do; 2 Tim.2:15), know scripture well, then they can readily recognize the false teachers and know to mark and avoid them. 

Sadly, many professing believers are Biblically illiterate these days... even though there is no excuse for this since there are hundreds of ways to access the KJV Bible... in print form, also free online KJV Bible, and even free lexicons (should  person desire to delve deep), Braille, KJV Bible apps, and audio Bibles as well (which are an excellent use of time while doing chores, etc. Listening to the KJV audio Bible). But far too many professing believers want a 5-6 word summary, a 5-10 minute sermon-ette (McChristian drive-thru style).  

Rather than waste time on the latest theory and falsehood of the day... (such as the "Blood moons", Shmita, Rev.12 sign heresy, L.A.Marzulli's phony fairy, planet x/nibiru, and hundreds of other false  teachings that pervert/twist scripture) ... the time would be much better spent in the Bible, in actual scripture, rather than mankind's take, opinion, and perversion of scripture for personal gain.  

Here is some scripture that may be helpful:

"For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple." (Rom.16:18)

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Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience. Be not ye therefore partakers with them." (Eph.5:6-7)

"But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived." (2 Tim.3:13)

That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive" (Eph.4:14) 


Maranatha! 

 

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Luke's fearful sights and great signs are part of the sorrows before the day of the Lord.

Revelation 8:12  I believe will be caused by Revelation 8:8 an asteroid as big as a mountain which will strike the earth. I believe it will shorten the night and the day by speeding the rotation of the earth to 16 hours per day.

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  I believe the troublemaker will be a planet-size object coming toward earth from parts unknown, but under God's control. As Luke quoted from Jesus, mens' hearts will fail them for fear of what they see coming upon the earth.  I mean, if it appears another planet is gonna collide with the earth, what could any human do about it???????

  Also, such an object could cause all the plagues of the Revelation, I. E. the "great trib", as well as the partial obscuring of the light of the sun & moon by smoke & dust from large fires & volcanism.  Also, the known planets have many rocks & boulders orbiting them, so, if a planet approaches earth, some of them will be caused to fall upon the earth, & one of them will doubtlessly be the meteor strikes of Revelation, as well as the falling stars of Matt. 24:29-30.

  And I at least partially agree with Eric's post above. Also, another planet's gravity could alter earth's rotational speed and inclination on its axis, as well as distorting the atmosphere to allow the full power of the sun's rays to come through & scorch men.

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