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      I Corinthians 11:17-34: "Now in this that I declare unto you I praise you not, that ye come together not for the better, but for the worse. For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it. For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you. When ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat the Lord's Supper. For in eating every one taketh before other his own supper: and one is hungry, and another is drunken. What? have ye not houses to eat and to drink in? or despise ye the church of God, and shame them that have not? What shall I say to you? shall I praise you in this? I praise you not. For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread: And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me. For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do show the Lord's death till he come. Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord. But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup. For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body. For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep. For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged. But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world. Wherefore, my brethren, when ye come together to eat, tarry one for another. And if any man hunger, let him eat at home; that ye come not together unto condemnation. And the rest will I set in order when I come."

      INTRODUCTION

      Historic Baptists, true Baptists, have believed in and still believe in closed communion. Baptists impose upon themselves the same restrictions that they impose on others concerning the Lord’s Supper. Baptists have always insisted that it is the Lord’s Table, not theirs; and He alone has the right to say who shall sit at His table. No amount of so called brotherly love, or ecumenical spirit, should cause us to invite to His table those who have not complied with the requirements laid down plainly in His inspired Word. With respect to Bible doctrines we must always use the scripture as our guide and practice. For Baptists, two of the most important doctrines are Baptism and The Lord’s Supper. These are the only two doctrines we recognize as Church Ordinances. The Bible is very clear in teaching how these doctrines are to be practiced and by whom.

      We only have two ordinances that we must never compromise or we risk our very existence, they are Baptism and The Lord’s Supper.

      The moment we deviate from the precise method God has prescribed we have started down the slippery slope of error. True Baptists have held fast to the original doctrine of The Lord’s Supper from the time of Christ and the Apostles.

      Unfortunately, in this day of what the Bible describes as the age of luke warmness, Baptists are becoming careless in regard to strictly following the pattern laid out for us in Scripture. Many of our Bible colleges are graduating otherwise sincere, Godly and dedicated pastors and teachers who have not been taught the very strict, biblical requirements that surround the Lord’s Supper. Any Bible college that neglects to teach its students the differences surrounding Closed Communion, Close Communion and Open Communion is not simply short changing its students; it is also not equipping their students to carry on sound Bible traditions. The result is men of God and churches that fall into error. And as we will see, this is serious error.

      Should we as Baptists ignore the restrictions made by our Lord and Master? NO! When we hold to the restrictions placed upon the Lord’s Supper by our Master, we are defending the "faith which was once delivered to the saints" Jude 3.

      The Lord’s Supper is rigidly restricted and I will show this in the following facts:

      IT IS RESTRICTED AS TO PLACE

      A. I Corinthians 11:18 says, "When ye come together in the church." This does not mean the church building; they had none. In other words, when the church assembles. The supper is to be observed by the church, in church capacity. Again this does not mean the church house. Ekklesia, the Greek word for church, means assembly. "When ye come together in the church," is when the church assembles.

      B. When we say church we mean an assembly of properly baptized believers. Acts 2:41-42: "Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls. And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers."

      The church is made up of saved people who are baptized by immersion. In the Bible, belief precedes baptism. That’s the Bible way.

      Acts 8:12-13, "But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women. Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized, he continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles and signs which were done."

      When we say properly baptized, we mean immersed. No unbeliever should take the Lord’s supper, and no non-immersed believer should take the supper. Those who are sprinkled are not baptized and cannot receive the supper. The Greek word for baptize is baptizo, and it always means to immerse.

      "In every case where communion is referred to, or where it may possibly have been administered, the believers had been baptized Acts 2:42; 8:12; 8:38; 10:47; 6:14-15; 18:8; 20:7. Baptism comes before communion, just as repentance and faith precede baptism".

      C. The Lord’s Supper is for baptized believers in church capacity: "When ye come together in the church," again not a building, but the assembly of the properly baptized believers.

      D. The fact that the Lord’s Supper is a church ordinance, to be observed in church capacity, is pointed out by the fact that it is for those who have been immersed and added to the fellowship of the church.

      E. The Lord’s Supper is never spoken of in connection with individuals. When it is referred to, it is only referred to in reference to baptized believers in local church capacity I Cor. 11:20-26).

      I want to quote Dr. W.W. Hamilton,

      "The individual administration of the ordinance has no Bible warrant and is a relic of Romanism. The Lord’s Supper is a church ordinance, and anything which goes beyond or comes short of this fails for want of scriptural example or command".

      “The practice of taking a little communion kit to hospitals, nursing homes, etc. is unscriptural and does not follow the scriptural example.”

      IT IS RESTRICTED TO A UNITED CHURCH

      A. The Bible in I Cor. 11:18 is very strong in condemning divisions around the Lord’s table. For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it.
      19 For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.
      20 When ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat the Lord's supper.

      There were no less than four divisions in the Corinthian church.
      I Cor. 1:12: "Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ."

      Because of these divisions, it was impossible for them to scripturally eat the Lord’s Supper. Division in the local church is reason to hold off observing the Lord’s Supper. But there are also other reasons to forego taking the Lord’s Supper. If there is gross sin in the membership we do not take it. Here is scriptural evidence for this: 1Co 5:7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our Passover is sacrificed for us:
      8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth. 9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:
      10 Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. 11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

      B. At this point, I want to ask these questions: Are there not doctrinal divisions among the many denominations? Is it not our doctrinal differences that cause us to be separate religious bodies?

      IT IS RESTRICTED BY DOCTRINE

      A. Those in the early church at Jerusalem who partook "continued stedfastly in the apostles’ doctrine" Acts 2:42. And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.

      B. Those that do not hold to apostolic truth are not to partake. This means there is to be discipline in the local body. How can you discipline those who do not belong to the local body? You can’t. The clear command of scripture is to withdraw fellowship from those who are not doctrinally sound.

      II Thes 3:6: "Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us."
      Rom. 16:17: "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them."
      To commune together means to have the same doctrine.
      II Thes. 2:15: "Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle."
      II John 10-11: "If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds."

      C. Some Baptists in our day have watered down this doctrine by practicing what they call “Close Communion.” By this they mean that they believe that members of another Baptist church may take communion with us because they are of the same beliefs. Once again, this is unscriptural.

      The welcome to the Lord's Table should not be extended beyond the discipline of the local church. When we take the Lord’s Supper there is supposed to be no gross sin among us and no divisions among us. We have no idea of the spiritual condition of another church’s members. If there is sin or division in the case of this other church’s members, we have no way of knowing it. We cannot discipline them because they are not members of our church. This is why we practice “Closed” communion, meaning it is restricted solely to our church membership. 
      So then, in closing I would like to reiterate the three different ideas concerning the Lord’s Supper and who is to take it. 
      Closed Communion = Only members of a single local church. 
      Close Communion = Members of like faith and order may partake. 
      Open Communion = If you claim to be a Christian, or simply attending the service, you may partake. 
      It is no small thing to attempt to change that which was implemented by our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. 
      Mt. 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen. 
      Many of our Baptist churches have a real need to consider the gravity of the act of observing The Lord’s Supper. It is not a light thing that is to be taken casually or without regard to the spiritual condition of ourselves or our church.
      1Co. 11:27 Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.

       28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.

       29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.

       30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.

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54 minutes ago, BabeinChrist said:

I think you guys are misunderstanding what I'm saying.

HappyChristian:

I understand that a person cannot be saved without realizing that they are a sinner before a just God. I get that.

They will never come to believe on Jesus without realizing they are a sinner in need of a Saviour (Jesus Christ).

What I am asking is: Does the person I encounter smoking marijuana, do they need to turn from their sin to be saved?

 

See, here's the problem. You premise is that repentance is a work and a false gospel (the title of the thread). But I think the problem lies in the mixing up of repentance with Lordship Salvation (which does indeed make a works-based salvation).

Lordship Salvation is not biblical - and it is that to which you actually refer with your question, I think (and I think is your entire point).  As I pointed out, repentance does not ONLY mean a turning away from. But that is the definition you are using, and it is the only one you are using. You cannot do that.

Realizing one is a sinner comes ONLY through conviction of the Holy Spirit, which leads to repentance: remorse/regret for sin. Not a delineation of every sin which we commit/have committed/will commit. That is a splitting of hairs which has completely complicated and muddied the biblical principle of repentance. 

When a person gets saved, they put their trust in Christ and the Holy Spirit can then begin to work on individual sins, such as smoking marijuana. 

Leaving our individual sins behind, conquering them, comes as we grow in the Lord - and that is the "proof", if you will, that someone is saved.

Does that answer your question and explain where we are coming from?

I think the vociferous disagreement from folks is based upon the fact that, with the invasion of Lordship Salvation into Christianity, many good folk have thrown repentance out the window. That cannot be done.

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Mrs. DePriest gave an excellent answer.  I would only add that repentance is not a "work" with regards to salvation.  It is something that takes place in the heart in an instant.  

All this back and forth reveals, I think, that we're not really in disagreement over how one gets saved but the meaning you attach to certain words is wrong and therefore the source of contention.

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I don't think anyone here believes that one must repent of their sins in order to be saved. However, I do think that we here would agree that one will repent for being a sinner.

Godly sorrow worketh repentance unto salvation...so, one turns from a life devoted unto self and sin...to a life devoted unto God and righteousness.

They may not be consciously thinking, "I'm repenting."; however, if they are truly saved, that's what happens. They become a new creation...old things are passed away, behold all things are become new.

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15 hours ago, Invicta said:

The gospel to the Jews is the same as that to the gentiles. 

Acts 2:38  Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. 39  For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
Those that are afar off are us.  even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

Yes, of course there is only one Gospel whereby we must be saved. However, the Jews understand the gospel of the kingdom which is Christ their king setting up an earthly kingdom in Jerusalem. This what the Jews are still waiting for. Do you not know that Peter accused the Jews of killing Christ because they could have had their King if Israel had accepted Him.

Paul on the other hand does not say: "repent and be baptized. He says BELIEVE on the Lord Jesus Christ.

Peter never says anything about the power of the cross for salvation. He tells the Jews they killed the Christ. The Jews are stricken by this and ask what should they do. Peter says repent of it and get baptized.

 

so many miss this but I sat under a wonderful bible teacher who had the gift of teaching.

 

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9 minutes ago, TheSword1227 said:

Yes, of course there is only one Gospel whereby we must be saved. However, the Jews understand the gospel of the kingdom which is Christ their king setting up an earthly kingdom in Jerusalem. This what the Jews are still waiting for. Do you not know that Peter accused the Jews of killing Christ because they could have had their King if Israel had accepted Him.

Paul on the other hand does not say: "repent and be baptized. He says BELIEVE on the Lord Jesus Christ.

Peter never says anything about the power of the cross for salvation. He tells the Jews they killed the Christ. The Jews are stricken by this and ask what should they do. Peter says repent of it and get baptized.

 

so many miss this but I sat under a wonderful bible teacher who had the gift of teaching.

 

Sounds luke you are saying salvation is different for Jews? That Peter and Paul preached different things?

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37 minutes ago, DaveW said:

Sounds luke you are saying salvation is different for Jews? That Peter and Paul preached different things?

Nope, not saying salvation is different for the Jews today. There is only ONE WAY: Jesus Christ. Do a google search and compare what Peter said to what Paul taught.

Jesus told the apostles to go only to the lost sheep of Israel and not to Gentiles. Peter admits later that Paul taught things "hard to understand." However, he validates Paul's apostleship and tells Paul and Barnabas to continue to go to gentiles with the gospel and that he (Peter) would continue to preach to the Jews. It was only until God ordered Peter to go to the gentile household of Cornelius, that Peter finally understands that God had extended salvation to the gentiles.

Did Jesus teach Peter about His death, burial and resurrection? Or did the risen Christ teach this "mystery" only to Paul?

Anyway, this is off topic sorry

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So Peter and Paul preached the same thing but different things?

 

And I would rather do a Bible search than a Google search to find out what Peter and Paul preached rather than what some man might say about what they preached.

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12 minutes ago, TheSword1227 said:

 

Did Jesus teach Peter about His death, burial and resurrection? 

 

Why certainly He did friend:

Matt 16: 21  From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.

Matt 17: 23  Jesus said unto them, The Son of man shall be betrayed into the hands of men: 23And they shall kill him, and the third day he shall be raised again. And they were exceeding sorry.

Luke 24: 6 He is not here, but is risen: remember how he spake unto you when he was yet in Galilee, 7Saying, The Son of man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men, and be crucified, and the third day rise again. 8And they remembered his words

Also Mark 10:34; Luke 9:22; Luke 18:33; Luke 24:46;

Just because Peter and the other Apostles didn't understand it yet does not negate that the Lord taught it throughout the Gospels.

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1 hour ago, TheSword1227 said:

Yes, of course there is only one Gospel whereby we must be saved. However, the Jews understand the gospel of the kingdom which is Christ their king setting up an earthly kingdom in Jerusalem. This what the Jews are still waiting for. Do you not know that Peter accused the Jews of killing Christ because they could have had their King if Israel had accepted Him.

Paul on the other hand does not say: "repent and be baptized. He says BELIEVE on the Lord Jesus Christ.

Peter never says anything about the power of the cross for salvation. He tells the Jews they killed the Christ. The Jews are stricken by this and ask what should they do. Peter says repent of it and get baptized.

 

so many miss this but I sat under a wonderful bible teacher who had the gift of teaching.

 

 

If you read Peter's sermon in Acts 2, it's evident that he preached the gospel; which is the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ. The majority of what is recorded of his sermon has to do with that.

How could the Jews repent of killing Christ? They couldn't go back and "unkill" him. So, there was actually something else they were to repent of. It's there...in the text.

 

26 minutes ago, TheSword1227 said:

Nope, not saying salvation is different for the Jews today. There is only ONE WAY: Jesus Christ. Do a google search and compare what Peter said to what Paul taught.

Jesus told the apostles to go only to the lost sheep of Israel and not to Gentiles. Peter admits later that Paul taught things "hard to understand." However, he validates Paul's apostleship and tells Paul and Barnabas to continue to go to gentiles with the gospel and that he (Peter) would continue to preach to the Jews. It was only until God ordered Peter to go to the gentile household of Cornelius, that Peter finally understands that God had extended salvation to the gentiles.

Did Jesus teach Peter about His death, burial and resurrection? Or did the risen Christ teach this "mystery" only to Paul?

Anyway, this is off topic sorry

 

Who was Peter talking about when he said there were things that Paul wrote which were hard to be understood? Was he talking about himself? No, he's very clear about who has a hard time understanding the writings of Paul...and it's not just Paul's writings...it's also "the other scriptures".

2 Peter 3:16

As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

As to the "mystery", there are several "mysteries" that Paul wrote about. The only time that I know of; in which, he refers to the "mystery of the gospel", is in Ephesians 6:19. However, when taken with the whole of Ephesians and its many references to "the mystery", the context is clear that he's speaking about the church...both Jew and Gentiles together as fellowheirs.

It's also interesting to note that when Paul mentions this "mystery" which was kept hidden, his is telling how he received knowledge of "the mystery". Which is, he received his knowledge of "the mystery" by direct revelation. However, Paul wan't the only one who knew about "the mystery"...he just received his knowledge of it in a different way.

Ephesians 3:3-6

3 For this cause I Paul, the prisoner of Jesus Christ for you Gentiles,

2 If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward:

How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words,

4 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ)

5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;

6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:

The other apostles (and prophets) new of the mystery too. It wasn't just given to Paul; it's just that the method of how the mystery was revealed was different for Paul than the other apostles and prophets.

One last thing...

What were some of the very last things that Christ told the apostles (including Peter) before he ascended to heaven?

(Matthew) Go ye therefore, and teach all nations,

(Mark) Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

(Luke)Thus it is written, and thus it behooved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day: And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations

...and what was the very last thing that Christ told the apostles (including Peter) right before he ascended to heaven?

(Acts) But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

Sounds like Peter knew that Gentiles would be included to me. :)

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23 hours ago, No Nicolaitans said:

 

If you read Peter's sermon in Acts 2, it's evident that he preached the gospel; which is the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ. The majority of what is recorded of his sermon has to do with that.

How could the Jews repent of killing Christ? They couldn't go back and "unkill" him. So, there was actually something else they were to repent of. It's there...in the text.

 

 

Who was Peter talking about when he said there were things that Paul wrote which were hard to be understood? Was he talking about himself? No, he's very clear about who has a hard time understanding the writings of Paul...and it's not just Paul's writings...it's also "the other scriptures".

2 Peter 3:16

As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

As to the "mystery", there are several "mysteries" that Paul wrote about. The only time that I know of; in which, he refers to the "mystery of the gospel", is in Ephesians 6:19. However, when taken with the whole of Ephesians and its many references to "the mystery", the context is clear that he's speaking about the church...both Jew and Gentiles together as fellowheirs.

It's also interesting to note that when Paul mentions this "mystery" which was kept hidden, his is telling how he received knowledge of "the mystery". Which is, he received his knowledge of "the mystery" by direct revelation. However, Paul wan't the only one who knew about "the mystery"...he just received his knowledge of it in a different way.

Ephesians 3:3-6

3 For this cause I Paul, the prisoner of Jesus Christ for you Gentiles,

2 If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward:

How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words,

4 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ)

5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;

6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:

The other apostles (and prophets) new of the mystery too. It wasn't just given to Paul; it's just that the method of how the mystery was revealed was different for Paul than the other apostles and prophets.

One last thing...

What were some of the very last things that Christ told the apostles (including Peter) before he ascended to heaven?

(Matthew) Go ye therefore, and teach all nations,

(Mark) Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

(Luke)Thus it is written, and thus it behooved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day: And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations

...and what was the very last thing that Christ told the apostles (including Peter) right before he ascended to heaven?

(Acts) But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

Sounds like Peter knew that Gentiles would be included to me. :)

You forget that Jesus told the apostles NOT to go to the Gentiles, but to the lost sheep of Israel.  (Matt 10:6-8)

Matthew 10:5-6: “These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying:  "Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: but go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” Jesus Himself said he was sent only for the lost sheep of Israel. (Matt 15:24)

It took a while for the early church to recognize that salvation was available to the Gentiles. The Jewish Christians who fled the persecution in Jerusalem went into the Gentile regions of Phoenicia, Cyprus and Antioch, but they were “spreading the word only among Jews”(Acts 11:19)

Read the story of Cornelius. Peter did not want to go to this man's house because he was still keeping the law refusing to touch anything unclean, but God had to open his eyes about the Gentiles.

Yes, eventually the Gospel was preached to all the world.

   A little study is a wonderful thing. :)

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And you forget that Jesus said:

Mat 28 :19  Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Notice the "all nations" in there? Wonder what that means?????

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5 minutes ago, DaveW said:

And you forget that Jesus said:

Mat 28 :19  Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Notice the "all nations" in there? Wonder what that means?????

Nope, didn't forget, The gospel most certainly has been preached to all nations.But the NT church was slow to preach it to gentiles and it was mostly by the apostle Paul.

Anyway, this is for another thread :)

 
 
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33 minutes ago, TheSword1227 said:

You forget that Jesus told the apostles NOT to go to the Gentiles, but to the lost sheep of Israel.  (Matt 10:6-8)

Matthew 10:5-6: “These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying:  "Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: but go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” Jesus Himself said he was sent only for the lost sheep of Israel. (Matt 15:24)

It took a while for the early church to recognize that salvation was available to the Gentiles. The Jewish Christians who fled the persecution in Jerusalem went into the Gentile regions of Phoenicia, Cyprus and Antioch, but they were “spreading the word only among Jews”(Acts 11:19)

Read the story of Cornelius. Peter did not want to go to this man's house because he was still keeping the law refusing to touch anything unclean, but God had to open his eyes about the Gentiles.

Yes, eventually the Gospel was preached to all the world.

   A little study is a wonderful thing. :)

No sir; I didn't forget.

What was the reason for sending them unto the Jews only in Matthew 10? What was meant to be accomplished? 

What were the circumstances; in which, the Lord said what he did in Matthew 15? Why did he say it? Who was he speaking to when he said it? What was the outcome? 

Why was the early church witnessing only to Jews? Have you not seen what resulted from their preaching "to the Jews only" (Acts 11:19) in the very next verse and continuing through the end of the chapter? 

Regarding Peter and Cornelius...what ONE part of the law did Peter acknowledge he had always kept? According to Peter's own words, what ONE specific thing did he learn from the vision? According to the account, who knew that it was unlawful for Jews to company with people of other nations? What significance does that hold? Does Acts 10:43 sound like it was spoken by someone who didn't know Gentiles could be saved? 

Yes, a little study is a wonderful thing. Deeper study is even better. :)

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Just now, No Nicolaitans said:

No sir; I didn't forget.

What was the reason for sending them unto the Jews only in Matthew 10? What was meant to be accomplished? 

What were the circumstances; in which, the Lord said what he did in Matthew 15? Why did he say it? Who was he speaking to when he said it? What was the outcome? 

Why was the early church witnessing only to Jews? Have you not seen what resulted from their preaching "to the Jews only" (Acts 11:19) in the very next verse and continuing through the end of the chapter? 

Regarding Peter and Cornelius...what ONE part of the law did Peter acknowledge he had always kept? According to Peter's own words, what ONE specific thing did he learn from the vision? According to the account, who knew that it was unlawful for Jews to company with people of other nations? What significance does that hold? Does Acts 10:43 sound like it was spoken by someone who didn't know Gentiles could be saved? 

Yes, a little study is a wonderful thing. Deeper study is even better. :)

 

If you wish to start a new topic on this that be great, but this is about repenting and I will not derail the thread anymore.

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49 minutes ago, TheSword1227 said:

But the NT church was slow to preach it to gentiles 

Were they slow, or were they being obedient to a specific command given to them? 

But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

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5 minutes ago, TheSword1227 said:

 

If you wish to start a new topic on this that be great, but this is about repenting and I will not derail the thread anymore.

The thread has been derailed for sure, but neither a moderator nor BabeinChrist have asked for the thread to come back to the topic...and this is her thread.

Nevertheless, my apologies to her if my part has offended her.

No, I have no desire to start another thread.

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2 hours ago, TheSword1227 said:

Read the story of Cornelius. Peter did not want to go to this man's house because he was still keeping the law refusing to touch anything unclean, but God had to open his eyes about the Gentiles.

Sorry to continue, but I inadvertently forgot to ask something...

Where does it say that Peter didn't want to go to Cornelius' house, because he was still keeping the law? 

In fact, where does it even say that Peter didn't want to go to Cornelius' house? 

All I see is...

  • he was told to go by the Spirit in verse 20
  • he was asked to go by the men sent from Cornelius in verse 22
  • In verse 23, Peter went

Nothing is said about him not wanting to go. In fact, verse 29 makes it pretty clear...he went without gainsaying as soon as he was sent for.

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