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      James Foley
       
      I Corinthians 11:17-34: "Now in this that I declare unto you I praise you not, that ye come together not for the better, but for the worse. For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it. For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you. When ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat the Lord's Supper. For in eating every one taketh before other his own supper: and one is hungry, and another is drunken. What? have ye not houses to eat and to drink in? or despise ye the church of God, and shame them that have not? What shall I say to you? shall I praise you in this? I praise you not. For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread: And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me. For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do show the Lord's death till he come. Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord. But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup. For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body. For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep. For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged. But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world. Wherefore, my brethren, when ye come together to eat, tarry one for another. And if any man hunger, let him eat at home; that ye come not together unto condemnation. And the rest will I set in order when I come."

      INTRODUCTION

      Historic Baptists, true Baptists, have believed in and still believe in closed communion. Baptists impose upon themselves the same restrictions that they impose on others concerning the Lord’s Supper. Baptists have always insisted that it is the Lord’s Table, not theirs; and He alone has the right to say who shall sit at His table. No amount of so called brotherly love, or ecumenical spirit, should cause us to invite to His table those who have not complied with the requirements laid down plainly in His inspired Word. With respect to Bible doctrines we must always use the scripture as our guide and practice. For Baptists, two of the most important doctrines are Baptism and The Lord’s Supper. These are the only two doctrines we recognize as Church Ordinances. The Bible is very clear in teaching how these doctrines are to be practiced and by whom.

      We only have two ordinances that we must never compromise or we risk our very existence, they are Baptism and The Lord’s Supper.

      The moment we deviate from the precise method God has prescribed we have started down the slippery slope of error. True Baptists have held fast to the original doctrine of The Lord’s Supper from the time of Christ and the Apostles.

      Unfortunately, in this day of what the Bible describes as the age of luke warmness, Baptists are becoming careless in regard to strictly following the pattern laid out for us in Scripture. Many of our Bible colleges are graduating otherwise sincere, Godly and dedicated pastors and teachers who have not been taught the very strict, biblical requirements that surround the Lord’s Supper. Any Bible college that neglects to teach its students the differences surrounding Closed Communion, Close Communion and Open Communion is not simply short changing its students; it is also not equipping their students to carry on sound Bible traditions. The result is men of God and churches that fall into error. And as we will see, this is serious error.

      Should we as Baptists ignore the restrictions made by our Lord and Master? NO! When we hold to the restrictions placed upon the Lord’s Supper by our Master, we are defending the "faith which was once delivered to the saints" Jude 3.

      The Lord’s Supper is rigidly restricted and I will show this in the following facts:

      IT IS RESTRICTED AS TO PLACE

      A. I Corinthians 11:18 says, "When ye come together in the church." This does not mean the church building; they had none. In other words, when the church assembles. The supper is to be observed by the church, in church capacity. Again this does not mean the church house. Ekklesia, the Greek word for church, means assembly. "When ye come together in the church," is when the church assembles.

      B. When we say church we mean an assembly of properly baptized believers. Acts 2:41-42: "Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls. And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers."

      The church is made up of saved people who are baptized by immersion. In the Bible, belief precedes baptism. That’s the Bible way.

      Acts 8:12-13, "But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women. Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized, he continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles and signs which were done."

      When we say properly baptized, we mean immersed. No unbeliever should take the Lord’s supper, and no non-immersed believer should take the supper. Those who are sprinkled are not baptized and cannot receive the supper. The Greek word for baptize is baptizo, and it always means to immerse.

      "In every case where communion is referred to, or where it may possibly have been administered, the believers had been baptized Acts 2:42; 8:12; 8:38; 10:47; 6:14-15; 18:8; 20:7. Baptism comes before communion, just as repentance and faith precede baptism".

      C. The Lord’s Supper is for baptized believers in church capacity: "When ye come together in the church," again not a building, but the assembly of the properly baptized believers.

      D. The fact that the Lord’s Supper is a church ordinance, to be observed in church capacity, is pointed out by the fact that it is for those who have been immersed and added to the fellowship of the church.

      E. The Lord’s Supper is never spoken of in connection with individuals. When it is referred to, it is only referred to in reference to baptized believers in local church capacity I Cor. 11:20-26).

      I want to quote Dr. W.W. Hamilton,

      "The individual administration of the ordinance has no Bible warrant and is a relic of Romanism. The Lord’s Supper is a church ordinance, and anything which goes beyond or comes short of this fails for want of scriptural example or command".

      “The practice of taking a little communion kit to hospitals, nursing homes, etc. is unscriptural and does not follow the scriptural example.”

      IT IS RESTRICTED TO A UNITED CHURCH

      A. The Bible in I Cor. 11:18 is very strong in condemning divisions around the Lord’s table. For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it.
      19 For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.
      20 When ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat the Lord's supper.

      There were no less than four divisions in the Corinthian church.
      I Cor. 1:12: "Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ."

      Because of these divisions, it was impossible for them to scripturally eat the Lord’s Supper. Division in the local church is reason to hold off observing the Lord’s Supper. But there are also other reasons to forego taking the Lord’s Supper. If there is gross sin in the membership we do not take it. Here is scriptural evidence for this: 1Co 5:7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our Passover is sacrificed for us:
      8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth. 9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:
      10 Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. 11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

      B. At this point, I want to ask these questions: Are there not doctrinal divisions among the many denominations? Is it not our doctrinal differences that cause us to be separate religious bodies?

      IT IS RESTRICTED BY DOCTRINE

      A. Those in the early church at Jerusalem who partook "continued stedfastly in the apostles’ doctrine" Acts 2:42. And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.

      B. Those that do not hold to apostolic truth are not to partake. This means there is to be discipline in the local body. How can you discipline those who do not belong to the local body? You can’t. The clear command of scripture is to withdraw fellowship from those who are not doctrinally sound.

      II Thes 3:6: "Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us."
      Rom. 16:17: "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them."
      To commune together means to have the same doctrine.
      II Thes. 2:15: "Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle."
      II John 10-11: "If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds."

      C. Some Baptists in our day have watered down this doctrine by practicing what they call “Close Communion.” By this they mean that they believe that members of another Baptist church may take communion with us because they are of the same beliefs. Once again, this is unscriptural.

      The welcome to the Lord's Table should not be extended beyond the discipline of the local church. When we take the Lord’s Supper there is supposed to be no gross sin among us and no divisions among us. We have no idea of the spiritual condition of another church’s members. If there is sin or division in the case of this other church’s members, we have no way of knowing it. We cannot discipline them because they are not members of our church. This is why we practice “Closed” communion, meaning it is restricted solely to our church membership. 
      So then, in closing I would like to reiterate the three different ideas concerning the Lord’s Supper and who is to take it. 
      Closed Communion = Only members of a single local church. 
      Close Communion = Members of like faith and order may partake. 
      Open Communion = If you claim to be a Christian, or simply attending the service, you may partake. 
      It is no small thing to attempt to change that which was implemented by our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. 
      Mt. 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen. 
      Many of our Baptist churches have a real need to consider the gravity of the act of observing The Lord’s Supper. It is not a light thing that is to be taken casually or without regard to the spiritual condition of ourselves or our church.
      1Co. 11:27 Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.

       28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.

       29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.

       30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.

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When we moved here, we were kind of in that situation. There is a church in town that is KJB. But, sadly, water under the bridge with my folks and the pastor precluded our attending there. We traveled over 30 minutes (not far, I know) to the church my parents joined in 2008. The pastor had gone to glory, and so there were visiting men preaching. My husband was asked to preach only once: when the guest speaker took ill on Sunday morning. 

That particular guest preacher began heavily correcting the Bible. Because, you know, he's more intelligent than the entire group of translators were. It was getting my hubs more and more upset (me, too, but he's the decider). Then there was a situation in which worldliness was accepted in the church, and when my husband tried to deal with it, things got weird. It all stemmed from the pastor's widow actually functioning as pastor (without preaching).

So we left there and visited a church that was actually about 10 minutes closer. They were also without a pastor. But this was clearly where God wants us - my husband has been pastor there for over a year now. Still spiritual growth needed, but we see it weekly. And physical growth is beginning.

Celina, I don't know how far those churches are from you, and I know travel there is much harder there in the Philippines. But traveling is sometimes a necessary thing.

And swath is correct: Baptists were never part of the RCC and so are not protestant. 

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In the small town my church is in (population 7,500) there is a large SBC church by our towns standards, Large building and large congregation. Something strange has happened to this church recently. I don't know any of the members so can't ask about this.

It seemed like all of a sudden their sign changed, it used to say First Southern Baptist Church. The change now reads: Cross Point Community Church. Then, at the very bottom right corned of the sign, in very small print the text says sbc in lower case.

I am left wondering if this is a Community Church takeover or if it is something new that the SBC is implementing now. I post this here  to see if anyone else has seen anything like what I described in their area, or knows anything about other SBC churches that have gone this way.

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Someone mentioned an IFB church handing out their Doctrinal Statement of Faith to Newcomers to the church so they could get familiarized with their beliefs. I suppose it would be several pages in length. One of the church members referred to all denominational churches as wood, hay, stubble; while his church was built on gold, silver, and precious stones. 

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On 5/16/2018 at 6:01 AM, TheSword1227 said:

Not to offend anyone, but personally I think It's silly to have so many different Baptist churches. Is this what God would want?

It's an evil.  God never intended for there to be such factions.  Along a similar vein, President George Washington said that political parties are an evil too.  Both are right.

I went to a Yankee church once and they welcomed us with open arms and knew the south was right too!  LOL  Being in Florida, we have lots of Yankees fleeing the north and our local church welcomes them all warmly and encourages them to come back.  I am so thankful that the Lord lead us to Liberty.  It's truly an amazing experience being part of a New Testament Church, brings tears to my eyes thinking about the saints and my pastor while writing this.  

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5 hours ago, swathdiver said:

It's an evil.  God never intended for there to be such factions.  Along a similar vein, President George Washington said that political parties are an evil too.  Both are right.

I went to a Yankee church once and they welcomed us with open arms and knew the south was right too!  LOL  Being in Florida, we have lots of Yankees fleeing the north and our local church welcomes them all warmly and encourages them to come back.  I am so thankful that the Lord lead us to Liberty.  It's truly an amazing experience being part of a New Testament Church, brings tears to my eyes thinking about the saints and my pastor while writing this.  

Yep, those Yankee defectors have been coming down here a long time.....I married one. 

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I thought only Bible colleges majored on teaching doctrine?? 

Is there a trusted site that teaches doctrine correctly ?

What is our Baptist stance on Repentance? I thought repentance was a pretty simple word until I’ve heard it defined so many ways. Most gospel tracts and verbal invitations do not use repentance. when I turned to the Lord I was turning away from my own way. So the idea of repentance made sense to me then by my experience. But who am I to say? 

I visited a southern baptist church once and they taught on Biblical church discipline, the only time I’ve ever heard it taught. 

The lack of doctrinal teaching I think is causing a generation of people that don’t know what they believe. 

What is a worldly church to you? What is a problem in a church with standards? Why does it matter if the walls are white or grey or black? White lights or colored? Tie or no tie? Jazzy sounds, blues, or beats or bass? What do you think of CCM music in the church put to piano so it doesn’t appear to be CCM? Do these things matter for doctrine? I have a very traditional view in these regards that comes from how i feel in my spirit and what i experienced when I got saved. The traditional view seems looked down upon or hushed. Not taught in church. 

Also separation seems like it is being pushed away from the church as a toxin. How do you stand doctrinally on separation? And how are the lines drawn?

I’ve never heard Calvinism explained in church. I’ve heard dispensation used in context but not really explained as of the word. I thought people were saved by faith? The sacrifices were a picture of Christ with faith that the Messiah would come. No? And also there seems to be a general pushing away from the OT. 

Humbly asking.

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7 hours ago, Dailywalk said:

I thought only Bible colleges majored on teaching doctrine?? 

Is there a trusted site that teaches doctrine correctly ?

What is our Baptist stance on Repentance? I thought repentance was a pretty simple word until I’ve heard it defined so many ways. Most gospel tracts and verbal invitations do not use repentance. when I turned to the Lord I was turning away from my own way. So the idea of repentance made sense to me then by my experience. But who am I to say? 

I visited a southern baptist church once and they taught on Biblical church discipline, the only time I’ve ever heard it taught. 

The lack of doctrinal teaching I think is causing a generation of people that don’t know what they believe. 

What is a worldly church to you? What is a problem in a church with standards? Why does it matter if the walls are white or grey or black? White lights or colored? Tie or no tie? Jazzy sounds, blues, or beats or bass? What do you think of CCM music in the church put to piano so it doesn’t appear to be CCM? Do these things matter for doctrine? I have a very traditional view in these regards that comes from how i feel in my spirit and what i experienced when I got saved. The traditional view seems looked down upon or hushed. Not taught in church. 

Also separation seems like it is being pushed away from the church as a toxin. How do you stand doctrinally on separation? And how are the lines drawn?

I’ve never heard Calvinism explained in church. I’ve heard dispensation used in context but not really explained as of the word. I thought people were saved by faith? The sacrifices were a picture of Christ with faith that the Messiah would come. No? And also there seems to be a general pushing away from the OT. 

Humbly asking.

Hi, DailyWalk

 

That's an awful lot of questions there! Which is a good thing... but it's going to be hard to answer them all in one thread. How about you break these up a bit and start several posts, each on one of the above topics? I think it'll help the discussion be a bit more clear and helpful. 🙂

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8 hours ago, Dailywalk said:

The lack of doctrinal teaching I think is causing a generation of people that don’t know what they believe. 

Welcome to OnLineBaptist!

I think as you read more of the studies here on OnLineBaptist, and the discussions on the various subjects, you will, hopefully, discover that most of the folks here know what they believe, why they believe it,and are doctrinaly correct in their beliefs. Also, most of the folks here on OnLineBaptist practice what they preach.

Looking forward to your participation in the studies.

My wife just dropped in to say Hello!

Alan and the Mrs.

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2 hours ago, Salyan said:

Hi, DailyWalk

That's an awful lot of questions there! Which is a good thing... but it's going to be hard to answer them all in one thread. How about you break these up a bit and start several posts, each on one of the above topics? I think it'll help the discussion be a bit more clear and helpful. 🙂

You are right, Salyan. It makes me laugh now to consider it. Thank you 

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1 hour ago, Alan said:

Welcome to OnLineBaptist!

I think as you read more of the studies here on OnLineBaptist, and the discussions on the various subjects, you will, hopefully, discover that most of the folks here know what they believe, why they believe it,and are doctrinaly correct in their beliefs. Also, most of the folks here on OnLineBaptist practice what they preach.

Looking forward to your participation in the studies.

My wife just dropped in to say Hello!

Alan and the Mrs.

Thank you and nice to meet you Mr. & Mrs. Alan. I definitely enjoy studying!! I was sure by the comments that everyone on here knows what they believe, thus all the questions lol; but I should probably slow down. Thank you again 

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