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it was good of you to warn them away from dangerous locations, and has nothing to do with chauvinism.... except in this case, you're behaving that way. The comments on their looks and your play on the word Mormon are downright rude. I think the Bible has something to say about that too...

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The last time I dealt with a JW, it was an older couple, friends of my wife, who, before she was saved, and some afterwards, she had done a Bible study with. Of course, it didn't take her long, even as a new believer, to figure them out, but she continued hoping to change them. They didn't change.
 

So one day they come to the farm-both quite old, his voice trembles, and I was kind and respectful to them. primarily for that reason. But when he began to speak of things I know are incorrect, I gently disagreed and showed scripture to the contrary. And he got mad, raised his voice, wouldn't hear it, and after a couple minutes they excused themselves and left. Never came back. I think his wife has since passed away and he has never been back. 

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Mike, if these two people were not locals, I may know who they were. I know of a JW couple who used to be from the Fall River- MacArthur area and were very well traveled in their door knocking ministry.. They have since relocated to my area, he is an Elder in the JW organization.

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  Not long ago, I went to the court house in Ironton, OH for some auto title work, & the JWs had a little stand on a busy corner near the court house, outta the way of pedestrian traffic, of course. Since it wasn't a busy corner at that time, I asked the man & woman there whom they say Jesus is. They looked at each other, & the man said, "He's the archangel Michael".  I replied, "WRONG!" & took a Bible from my pocket to show them there Scriptures:

Jude 1:9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.

 

  I said to them, "So, you see, not even Michael badmouthed Satan. But see what JESUS said:"

 

John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

 

"  JESUS didn't hesitate to badmouth Satan, because He IS the Lord, but Michael dared not do so ! Think about it ! "

  They had no reply.

  I don't know if that sank into those people or not, but I tried. Perhaps the HOLY SPIRIT made the seed grow. I haven't seen either of those people since then.

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On 12/23/2019 at 2:04 PM, Salyan said:

it was good of you to warn them away from dangerous locations, and has nothing to do with chauvinism.... except in this case, you're behaving that way. The comments on their looks and your play on the word Mormon are downright rude. I think the Bible has something to say about that too...

  I was only telling the truth. In this world, "attractive" people get more respect & attention than those who are not-so-attractive. And I have absolutely NO respect for the LDS  cult, nor for the SDA cult. They're false religions leading people to condemnation.

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8 hours ago, robycop3 said:

  I was only telling the truth. In this world, "attractive" people get more respect & attention than those who are not-so-attractive. And I have absolutely NO respect for the LDS  cult, nor for the SDA cult. They're false religions leading people to condemnation.

If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.

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On 2/5/2020 at 2:24 AM, robycop3 said:

JESUS didn't hesitate to badmouth Satan, because He IS the Lord, but Michael dared not do so ! Think about it ! "

  They had no reply.

  I don't know if that sank into those people or not, but I tried. Perhaps the HOLY SPIRIT made the seed grow. I haven't seen either of those people since then.

There is a difference in telling the truth in boldness and being sarcastic/rude. Jesus was never the latter.

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5 hours ago, robycop3 said:

Matthew 23 (Most of the chapter)

Matthew 3:7

Matthew 12:34

I'm not trying to be dumb here, but can you please break the verses down for me where Jesus was sarcastic/rude to others? I want to put some thought into this. Or maybe you need to define what your definition of sarcasm and rude for us, because I cant see where those verses are sarcastic/rude according to the dictionaries definition.

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1 hour ago, PastorMatt said:

I'm not trying to be dumb here, but can you please break the verses down for me where Jesus was sarcastic/rude to others? I want to put some thought into this. Or maybe you need to define what your definition of sarcasm and rude for us, because I cant see where those verses are sarcastic/rude according to the dictionaries definition.

That's probably because they are not rude/sarcastic BroMatt. Jesus was firm in His denunciation of the Scribes and Pharisees and their legalistic doctrines, as well as their rejection of Him.

But then again, I am not Robycop, so I should probably bow out and let him explain if he can.

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  In Matt. 23, Jesus really blasted the scribes & Pharisees. In Vs. 13, 14, & 15,  He called them hypocrites, pretty strong language in that context And, in Vs. 17 & 19, He called them FOOLS. Most of that chapter is one big verbal reaming of the scribes & Pharisees by Jesus.

  In Matt. 12:25-37, Jesus again verbally dresses down a group of Pharisees, calling them a generation of vipers, among other things.

  Jesus didn't hold back when He denounced them.  I believe He had a powerful speaking voice,  but, of course, we don't know what inflections He mighta used, but He certainly got His message out ! I don't believe He was a bit polite to those men !

(I goofed with Matt. 3:7. That was John The Baptist who called the local Pharisees a generation of vipers.)

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Thank you for you reply. I think this is more of a cultural definition than anything else. What one see as bold another may see as sarcastic/rude/inappropriate. However, I see Jesus in those verses being bold and to the point, but I don't see him making fun of them. After all...It was it's love that brought Him here for them. 

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On 3/12/2017 at 5:41 AM, Alan said:

Potatochip is correct.

The J.W.s' tend to be polite and try to deliberately to attract folks who have a professed Christian, or religious, background, who are not grounded in the doctrines of the faith. The J'W's normally do not go after saints who are grounded in the faith. They try and attract weak grounded saints, saints who are disgruntled with the church they are attending, or a lot of folks who are only professing Christians.

William J. Schnell was in the Jehovah's Witnesses' for over thirty years and worked himself up to the upper echelon's of the organization. After William Schnell left the J.W.'s, in 1954, he wrote a book, "Thirty Years  A Watchtower Slave." In the book, Schnell says this, "The Watch Tower leadership sensed that within the midst of Christendom were many millions of professing Chrstians who were not well grounded in the "truths one delivered to the saints," and who would be rather easily pried loose from the churches and led into a new and revitalized Watch Tower Organization. The Society calculated, and that rightly, that this lack of proper knowledge of God and the widespread acceptance of half-truths in Christendom, would yield vast masses of men and women, if the whole matter were wisely attacked, the attack sustained, and the results contained, and then reused in an overwidening circle."  (Thirty Years A Watchtower Slave," Baker Book House, Grand Rapids, Michigan,1957page 19). 

The main source of potential converts for the J.W.'s are doctrinaly weak professing Christians.

Jim Alaska is correct. We meet J.W's all the time while passing out tracts. They will not talk with us much as they want to spend their time and effort on weak professing Christians or those who are disgruntled with a church. The J.W.s will with a very polite smile, once they know we know what we are talkng about, refuse the tract, and walk away. The J.W.s know that for every grounded in the word saint there are multitudes ungrounded.

 

Think I heard or read somewhere that they claim a bulk of their converts were at one time professing Baptists!

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   Recently, I received some news that was both sad and good. There was a married couple who were JWs  who worked holidays for us on the abbulance I worked in while I was laid off from the steel mill.

  Recently, the lady died, & in her obit there was a pic of them standing in fronta a Christmas tree. And I saw where her service would be conducted by a BAPTIST pastor. While I hadn't seen them for several years, as they'd moved from the area, it appears they'd left the JW cult ! PRAISE GOD, that those people had abandoned that false religion !

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