Members Eric Stahl Posted January 21, 2017 Members Share Posted January 21, 2017 Daniel 11:39 Thus shall he do in the most strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory: and he shall cause them to rule over many, and shall divide the land for gain. We are near the time of the end and what country is the strongest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fastjav390 Posted January 21, 2017 Members Share Posted January 21, 2017 2 million screaming feminists might agree with you right now. Doc Flay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Invicta Posted January 21, 2017 Members Share Posted January 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Eric Stahl said: Daniel 11:39 Thus shall he do in the most strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory: and he shall cause them to rule over many, and shall divide the land for gain. We are near the time of the end and what country is the strongest? Russia, China? We have been in the end times since the tyme of the apostles. Genevanpreacher and Doc Flay 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Eric Stahl Posted January 22, 2017 Author Members Share Posted January 22, 2017 (edited) We know the end is near because Israel has gathered! Zephaniah 1:14-18, 2:1-3 14 The great day of the LORD is near, it is near, and hasteth greatly, even the voice of the day of the LORD: the mighty man shall cry there bitterly. 15 That day is a day of wrath, a day of trouble and distress, a day of wasteness and desolation, a day of darkness and gloominess, a day of clouds and thick darkness, 16 A day of the trumpet and alarm against the fenced cities, and against the high towers. 17 And I will bring distress upon men, that they shall walk like blind men, because they have sinned against the LORD: and their blood shall be poured out as dust, and their flesh as the dung. 18 Neither their silver nor their gold shall be able to deliver them in the day of the LORD'S wrath; but the whole land shall be devoured by the fire of his jealousy: for he shall make even a speedy riddance of all them that dwell in the land. 1Gather yourselves together, yea, gather together, O nation not desired; 2 Before the decree bring forth, before the day pass as the chaff, before the fierce anger of the LORD come upon you, before the day of the LORD'S anger come upon you. 3 Seek ye the LORD, all ye meek of the earth, which have wrought his judgment; seek righteousness, seek meekness: it may be ye shall be hid in the day of the LORD'S anger. Edited January 22, 2017 by Eric Stahl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Genevanpreacher Posted January 23, 2017 Members Share Posted January 23, 2017 (edited) On 1/21/2017 at 9:15 PM, Eric Stahl said: We know the end is near because Israel has gathered! Where? And why are there SO many Jews in other countries then? In the website - http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/latest-population-statistics-for-israel - there is this quote - "On New Year's Day 2017, Israel's population stood at a record 8,630,000." and out of that "The Jewish population makes up 6,450,000." And - "Out of the 14.3 million Jewish people in the world, 43% reside in Israel." Any comment for this Eric? Or do you not pay attention to the statistics above? If "Israel" is gathered, why are they not all in Israel? Edited January 23, 2017 by Genevanpreacher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Invicta Posted January 23, 2017 Members Share Posted January 23, 2017 I think the scripture plainly teaches that the Antichrist will come from Rome. The early church writers certainly taught that/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Eric Stahl Posted January 23, 2017 Author Members Share Posted January 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Invicta said: I think the scripture plainly teaches that the Antichrist will come from Rome. The early church writers certainly taught that/ DANIEL 9:26 26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. 666 will come from the same people. North America and South America and Australia and of others are from European linage. Revelation 16:10 10 And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seat of the beast; and his kingdom was full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues for pain, 666 will come from the country that will be darkened before Jesus comes to Armageddon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Alan Posted January 24, 2017 Members Share Posted January 24, 2017 On 2017年1月22日 at 10:15 AM, Eric Stahl said: 1Gather yourselves together, yea, gather together, O nation not desired; The gathering of Israel has been a slow process. The Jews started to gather back to Israel back in 1898. It is obvious to everybody that not all of the Jews of the world are gathered back in the land of Israel. Why not give the Lord a bit more time to complete the process? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ukulelemike Posted January 24, 2017 Moderators Share Posted January 24, 2017 Personally, I have moved more along the lines of thinking that the Beast will come as the 12th Imam-Islam has gained great strength and influence around the world today-there is an amazingly demonic influence in the world today in reference to Islam-how many crazy feminists and homosexuals are out there decrying 'Islamaphobia', upholding Sharia law, as though it will somehow better empower them, while at the same time, women who have been rescued from Islam speak frankly of the mistreatment of women at their hands-genital mutilation, honor killings, having acid thrown in their faces, raping them, then stoning them for adultery. Homosexuals are gleefully and publicly thrown from the tops of buildings and murdered in other ways. yet these very persecuted people are wanting desperately to embrace them. Christian groups, so-called' are doing the same thing, insisting the Muslims are no different than we, that Allah is the same as the God of the Bible, while they publicly and gleefully murder entire Christians churches and cities. How is this NOT the work of Satan? It seems the perfect set-up: The beast comes in the guise of the 12'th Imam, with "Jesus' tagging along as his prophet, (just as they say he will)-and the false prophet seems to be as well an imitation of Jesus, being said to have horns like a 'lamb'-so Jesus comes along, too. the beast declares an end to the hostilities against Jews and Christians, and of course, the Muslims will listen to the Imam, their messiah, while Jesus calms the hearts of the so-called Christians, insisting that it is all part of God's wonderful plan, heals some people, does some miracles, and everyone swoons. Except TRUE born-again believers, who I believe the Lord will give them the discernment to see through it. Then the beast authorizes the temple to be built in Jerusalem, (who else could get the cooperation between the Muslims and the Jews?), so the Jews declare him to be the Messiah, and the sacrifices begin again. until he walks in and declares himself God and demands sacrifice. But, this is all just a thought, Clearly I can't make it a set doctrine, but it makes sense. To me, anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Invicta Posted January 24, 2017 Members Share Posted January 24, 2017 49 minutes ago, Eric Stahl said: DANIEL 9:26 26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. Have you not noticed that the people of the prince that shall come, already destroyed the city and sanctuary? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Eric Stahl Posted January 26, 2017 Author Members Share Posted January 26, 2017 (edited) On 1/23/2017 at 7:27 PM, Invicta said: Have you not noticed that the people of the prince that shall come, already destroyed the city and sanctuary? True, but the prince (666) will not come till God causes the people that have heard and rejected the Gospel truth to believe the lie of antichrist. 2 Thessalonians 2:6-12 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. 7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. 8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. Edited January 26, 2017 by Eric Stahl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Invicta Posted January 26, 2017 Members Share Posted January 26, 2017 19 minutes ago, Eric Stahl said: True, but the prince (666) will not come till God causes the people that have heard and rejected the Gospel truth to believe the lie of antichrist. 2 Thessalonians 2:6-12 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. 7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. 8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. If the city and sanctuary have been destroyed which they have then Paul must be speaking of a different person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Fundamental Faith Posted January 27, 2017 Members Share Posted January 27, 2017 I should direct my son, here. He is a Post-Millenialist, partial preterism. I thought I raised him right. But he is dug in pretty deep. Alan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fastjav390 Posted January 27, 2017 Members Share Posted January 27, 2017 From all I've read from the bible the Antichrist has to be at least half Jewish. My guess he'll be half Jew and half Arab. Maybe Syrian or Turkish. Then he'll be able to broker a temporary peace between the Jews and Arabs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members weary warrior Posted January 27, 2017 Members Share Posted January 27, 2017 As you guys study these things out, keep in mind the foundational truths that are constant through out all of scripture. The anti-christ is the false christ, and to be a false christ he will mimic the real Christ as much as possible to deceive "even the very elect" if it were possible. The devil is the great counterfeiter. He is "as a roaring lion", counterfeiting the "Lion of the tribe of Judah". And the best counterfeits are the ones that most resemble the real thing. And a white, wispy 80 year old pope from somewhere in Europe is not a very convincing counterfeit to a robust 33 year old Jew from Israel. From the very beginning, this central story of the creation and fall, promise of Messiah, Abrahamic covenant, creation of Israel, fall of Israel, prophets, priests, the Savior and his oldest enemy has always been-and always will be-played out primarily in Israel and the surrounding area. Not England, not South America, not the USA, not China, not Russia etc. Yes, Gog and Magog will appear on the scene to attack eventually, but they are last minute walk-ons in this story. This story is ancient, and will end where it began and where it has always taken place. Don't study the individual pieces of the puzzle so hard that you loose sight of the whole finished picture from beginning to end. But I love that you are studying, and am rootin' you on! :) Alan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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