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      Closed Communion
      James Foley
       
      I Corinthians 11:17-34: "Now in this that I declare unto you I praise you not, that ye come together not for the better, but for the worse. For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it. For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you. When ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat the Lord's Supper. For in eating every one taketh before other his own supper: and one is hungry, and another is drunken. What? have ye not houses to eat and to drink in? or despise ye the church of God, and shame them that have not? What shall I say to you? shall I praise you in this? I praise you not. For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread: And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me. For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do show the Lord's death till he come. Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord. But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup. For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body. For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep. For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged. But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world. Wherefore, my brethren, when ye come together to eat, tarry one for another. And if any man hunger, let him eat at home; that ye come not together unto condemnation. And the rest will I set in order when I come."

      INTRODUCTION

      Historic Baptists, true Baptists, have believed in and still believe in closed communion. Baptists impose upon themselves the same restrictions that they impose on others concerning the Lord’s Supper. Baptists have always insisted that it is the Lord’s Table, not theirs; and He alone has the right to say who shall sit at His table. No amount of so called brotherly love, or ecumenical spirit, should cause us to invite to His table those who have not complied with the requirements laid down plainly in His inspired Word. With respect to Bible doctrines we must always use the scripture as our guide and practice. For Baptists, two of the most important doctrines are Baptism and The Lord’s Supper. These are the only two doctrines we recognize as Church Ordinances. The Bible is very clear in teaching how these doctrines are to be practiced and by whom.

      We only have two ordinances that we must never compromise or we risk our very existence, they are Baptism and The Lord’s Supper.

      The moment we deviate from the precise method God has prescribed we have started down the slippery slope of error. True Baptists have held fast to the original doctrine of The Lord’s Supper from the time of Christ and the Apostles.

      Unfortunately, in this day of what the Bible describes as the age of luke warmness, Baptists are becoming careless in regard to strictly following the pattern laid out for us in Scripture. Many of our Bible colleges are graduating otherwise sincere, Godly and dedicated pastors and teachers who have not been taught the very strict, biblical requirements that surround the Lord’s Supper. Any Bible college that neglects to teach its students the differences surrounding Closed Communion, Close Communion and Open Communion is not simply short changing its students; it is also not equipping their students to carry on sound Bible traditions. The result is men of God and churches that fall into error. And as we will see, this is serious error.

      Should we as Baptists ignore the restrictions made by our Lord and Master? NO! When we hold to the restrictions placed upon the Lord’s Supper by our Master, we are defending the "faith which was once delivered to the saints" Jude 3.

      The Lord’s Supper is rigidly restricted and I will show this in the following facts:

      IT IS RESTRICTED AS TO PLACE

      A. I Corinthians 11:18 says, "When ye come together in the church." This does not mean the church building; they had none. In other words, when the church assembles. The supper is to be observed by the church, in church capacity. Again this does not mean the church house. Ekklesia, the Greek word for church, means assembly. "When ye come together in the church," is when the church assembles.

      B. When we say church we mean an assembly of properly baptized believers. Acts 2:41-42: "Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls. And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers."

      The church is made up of saved people who are baptized by immersion. In the Bible, belief precedes baptism. That’s the Bible way.

      Acts 8:12-13, "But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women. Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized, he continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles and signs which were done."

      When we say properly baptized, we mean immersed. No unbeliever should take the Lord’s supper, and no non-immersed believer should take the supper. Those who are sprinkled are not baptized and cannot receive the supper. The Greek word for baptize is baptizo, and it always means to immerse.

      "In every case where communion is referred to, or where it may possibly have been administered, the believers had been baptized Acts 2:42; 8:12; 8:38; 10:47; 6:14-15; 18:8; 20:7. Baptism comes before communion, just as repentance and faith precede baptism".

      C. The Lord’s Supper is for baptized believers in church capacity: "When ye come together in the church," again not a building, but the assembly of the properly baptized believers.

      D. The fact that the Lord’s Supper is a church ordinance, to be observed in church capacity, is pointed out by the fact that it is for those who have been immersed and added to the fellowship of the church.

      E. The Lord’s Supper is never spoken of in connection with individuals. When it is referred to, it is only referred to in reference to baptized believers in local church capacity I Cor. 11:20-26).

      I want to quote Dr. W.W. Hamilton,

      "The individual administration of the ordinance has no Bible warrant and is a relic of Romanism. The Lord’s Supper is a church ordinance, and anything which goes beyond or comes short of this fails for want of scriptural example or command".

      “The practice of taking a little communion kit to hospitals, nursing homes, etc. is unscriptural and does not follow the scriptural example.”

      IT IS RESTRICTED TO A UNITED CHURCH

      A. The Bible in I Cor. 11:18 is very strong in condemning divisions around the Lord’s table. For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it.
      19 For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.
      20 When ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat the Lord's supper.

      There were no less than four divisions in the Corinthian church.
      I Cor. 1:12: "Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ."

      Because of these divisions, it was impossible for them to scripturally eat the Lord’s Supper. Division in the local church is reason to hold off observing the Lord’s Supper. But there are also other reasons to forego taking the Lord’s Supper. If there is gross sin in the membership we do not take it. Here is scriptural evidence for this: 1Co 5:7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our Passover is sacrificed for us:
      8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth. 9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:
      10 Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. 11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

      B. At this point, I want to ask these questions: Are there not doctrinal divisions among the many denominations? Is it not our doctrinal differences that cause us to be separate religious bodies?

      IT IS RESTRICTED BY DOCTRINE

      A. Those in the early church at Jerusalem who partook "continued stedfastly in the apostles’ doctrine" Acts 2:42. And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.

      B. Those that do not hold to apostolic truth are not to partake. This means there is to be discipline in the local body. How can you discipline those who do not belong to the local body? You can’t. The clear command of scripture is to withdraw fellowship from those who are not doctrinally sound.

      II Thes 3:6: "Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us."
      Rom. 16:17: "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them."
      To commune together means to have the same doctrine.
      II Thes. 2:15: "Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle."
      II John 10-11: "If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds."

      C. Some Baptists in our day have watered down this doctrine by practicing what they call “Close Communion.” By this they mean that they believe that members of another Baptist church may take communion with us because they are of the same beliefs. Once again, this is unscriptural.

      The welcome to the Lord's Table should not be extended beyond the discipline of the local church. When we take the Lord’s Supper there is supposed to be no gross sin among us and no divisions among us. We have no idea of the spiritual condition of another church’s members. If there is sin or division in the case of this other church’s members, we have no way of knowing it. We cannot discipline them because they are not members of our church. This is why we practice “Closed” communion, meaning it is restricted solely to our church membership. 
      So then, in closing I would like to reiterate the three different ideas concerning the Lord’s Supper and who is to take it. 
      Closed Communion = Only members of a single local church. 
      Close Communion = Members of like faith and order may partake. 
      Open Communion = If you claim to be a Christian, or simply attending the service, you may partake. 
      It is no small thing to attempt to change that which was implemented by our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. 
      Mt. 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen. 
      Many of our Baptist churches have a real need to consider the gravity of the act of observing The Lord’s Supper. It is not a light thing that is to be taken casually or without regard to the spiritual condition of ourselves or our church.
      1Co. 11:27 Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.

       28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.

       29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.

       30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.

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My heart is heavy with concern for John81. He has not been on the board since June and others have asked about him. No one seems to know anything about him.

I have spent the entire day, since six o'clock this morning, searching through his posts, looking for any information. I had to give up after 22 pages of his posts and replies. He has over 66,000 posts so it is quite a task to read through them.

I was looking for anything that might say where he lived, so I could search for a church in that area that might be his. I found nothing. I did a google search for his username and only found one that referred to him. I found it on a reformed theology message forum. I searched all his posts there for any information with no results. There is nothing in his profile of either that forum or this one.

As I write this I wonder if anyone reading this post might know where he lives, or possibly the name of the church he goes to? In this respect I just thought that since his posts were so prolific that someone may have asked him about either his church or his location at some time since he joined the forum in 2005. Most people will, at some time mention where they live, but he didn't seem to that I can find.

Anything that anyone can remember about his location or his church would be welcome. I may be able to track or find out information about him if I could find either his church or location.

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32 minutes ago, Ukulelemike said:

Maybe he just got tired of us all?

I don't think so Mike. He has been on the board every day since 2005, that's eleven years. If he just got tired of us he would have said something, he was too polite to just disappear without a word.

He was only 53 years old. My main concern is that he may be sick to the point that he cannot use the computer, in which case encouraging words from long time friends as well as the prayers of God's people might be of help to him.

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I miss John81 also.

John81 was quite prolific in his knowledge, seemed to be IFB down the line, was against the Charismatic tendency to promote dates and sensationalisim in prophecy matters, and seemed to be very concerned about the changes in the IFB Movement. Maybe someone could use that information to find him.

It is my hope that John81 comes back to OnLine Baptist.

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I've reviewed several of his posts and garnered a few items.

1. He lives in a small town; evidently in Arkansas.

2. His wife was from Amarillo, Texas; she left Amarillo in 1993.

3. His church supports a missionary to India.

 

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On ‎10‎/‎25‎/‎2016 at 7:46 PM, HappyChristian said:

Hmm - Arkansas? I know Jerry#s lives in Arkansas. I thought John lived elsewhere. But I'm not sure. (I thought he was actually closer to Indiana, for some reason, based on comments about storms, etc., at times.)

John once told me that he didn't say where he lived because his wife did not want their location out over the internet. John once said something about the Missouri Tigers so, I 'assumed' he was in Missouri somewhere. John was very guarded about his personal details and I respected that. He was having to help his father with trips to the doctor but, I don't recall any discussion of personal illness. John's oldest son Tim went to Florida around 11/15/11. If Jerry Numbers can be contacted, he may know how to reach John, they appeared to have a close friendship (as close as you can online) over many years.

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I had the impression that although John identified as IFB, there was no IFB church close enough to attend, so he was attending a Southern Baptist. That may have some bearing on a church search. 
Jim_Alaska, have you tried his personal email?

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Hey all, I know I don't have much to say since I have been pretty absent for....a few years but John81 was one of the people I called my friend on this site and I've been wondering about his absence as well.....this thread is a little old but has anyone been able to contact him or anything?

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27 minutes ago, SarahStrawberry said:

Hey all, I know I don't have much to say since I have been pretty absent for....a few years but John81 was one of the people I called my friend on this site and I've been wondering about his absence as well.....this thread is a little old but has anyone been able to contact him or anything?

Hi, Sarah. Good to hear from you. :1_grinning:

As far as I know, attempts to contact him have not been fruitful.  I know I've not had any responses. We all miss him.

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I have not heard anything from or about him either. I did come across a few posts the other day where someone was taking him to task about John putting down IFB's. In those posts he indicated that he was attending a non-denominal church.

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On ‎10‎/‎25‎/‎2016 at 5:31 PM, OLD fashioned preacher said:

State of Arkansas is as narrow as I have for a location.

 

On ‎10‎/‎25‎/‎2016 at 5:46 PM, HappyChristian said:

Hmm - Arkansas? I know Jerry#s lives in Arkansas. I thought John lived elsewhere. But I'm not sure. (I thought he was actually closer to Indiana, for some reason, based on comments about storms, etc., at times.)

I may have crossed John and Jerry up, I've gotten them mixed up before. So, he may not be in AR.

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16 hours ago, HappyChristian said:

Hi, Sarah. Good to hear from you. :1_grinning:

As far as I know, attempts to contact him have not been fruitful.  I know I've not had any responses. We all miss him.

Thanks! :) I try to pop in every few years ;)

aw okay..... :( thank you!

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16 hours ago, Jim_Alaska said:

I have not heard anything from or about him either. I did come across a few posts the other day where someone was taking him to task about John putting down IFB's. In those posts he indicated that he was attending a non-denominal church.

Yes, because there were no IFB churches near them that were correct - I can't remember why, whether it was a version issue or something else. 

16 hours ago, OLD fashioned preacher said:

 

I may have crossed John and Jerry up, I've gotten them mixed up before. So, he may not be in AR.

I have no idea. heh.  He did a good job keeping it secret, eh? :4_joy:

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I was wondering if he had inadvertently been blocked? Remember a couple of years back when I had that issue? The anti-spam settings were such that if a person made numerous editing changes to a comment (while typing it, before posting it) OR if a person put 2-3 comments in a row in succession that the spam-filter would think it was spam and block the person? (Or so I was told). The only way I got back in was to contact a fellow OB memver on facebook who put me in touch with sister LuAnne (Happy Christian) to then get in touch with Bro_Matt to fix the issue? Had I not known someone, nor had a way to reach someone here I also would not have been able to get back in. Once blocked by the spam-filters, a person can't even re-apply for new membership, since the computer IP # (or whatever computer signature used) is also blocked. I wonder if that has happened to John81 as well? 

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