Members Alan Posted August 13, 2016 Author Members Share Posted August 13, 2016 I want to thank all those who liked the discussion, and all those who participated in some way, in order to help all of us make some difficult decisions. John Young 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 1Timothy115 Posted November 8, 2016 Members Share Posted November 8, 2016 Three things would have caused me not to vote for Trump... 1. If he favors abortion. 2. If he favors same sex marriage. 3. If he favors liberal Supreme Court Justices. So, I voted on Nov. 1, my birthday, for Mr. Trump as POTUS. wretched, Alan and heartstrings 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ukulelemike Posted November 8, 2016 Moderators Share Posted November 8, 2016 On ‎8‎/‎11‎/‎2016 at 10:04 AM, swathdiver said: Alan, Christians are not to yoke with unbelievers.  Therefore, they should not vote for any heathen/lost person as they serve their father, the devil.  It is our responsibility to occupy till he comes, to cultivate and promote and elect candidates with a biblical testimony of salvation. Several years ago I researched each member of the House and Senate and President's Cabinet and came up with 2 people who were saved the bible's way.  I have heard from folks here that Trump has heard a biblical presentation of the Good News and how to partake in it.  I have not heard whether or not he's accepted Christ as Lord and Savior.  Some time last year he stated that he had nothing to repent of and no need of being born-again.  Several years before that he bloviated that the Presbyterian religion was great and wonderful and so on.  Just as liberals previously suffered from BDS and PDS, they are already suffering from TDS, Trump Derangement Syndrome.  They will continually lie and attack him from now til their deaths.  A truly hope the man gets saved, wins his family for Christ, including his Jewish son-in-law and wife, and shares the good news from the oval office with the American people. Can you imagine the positive impact such would have had for black folks and many liberal democrats if Obama had accepted Christ while in office? I dunno, God ordained a lot of ungodly men as king in Israel and Judah, and even the best ones, like David (murderer and adulterer) had problems. Voting for an unsaved man is not yoking with anyone-it is considering the best of the two, the one who will more likely uphold the laws of the land, (their job), and leave the final results to the Lord. Then, once someone is chosen, we are to follow them insofar as we are not told to walk outside the Bible's boundaries. The Lord ordains the powers that be. heartstrings and Alan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John Young Posted November 9, 2016 Members Share Posted November 9, 2016 9 minutes ago, John Young said: Well Donald Trump will be our 45th president. I did not vote for him but I accept that he will be our president. I will be praying for him and our country. Please pray with me that he will seek God's face, lead in a godly way, and that he will gather to himself, and listen to, wise counselors.  Alan and Invicta 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rosie Posted November 9, 2016 Members Share Posted November 9, 2016 Dr Dobson said Trump accepted Christ as Saviour, we sure do need to pray for him... I believe he will make a better president than the alternative Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John Young Posted November 9, 2016 Members Share Posted November 9, 2016 2 minutes ago, Rosie said: Dr Dobson said Trump accepted Christ as Saviour, we sure do need to pray for him... I believe he will make a better president than the alternative Dr. Dobson's statements were refuted and Trump has never made a public confession as of yet. That said he claims he will be a good friend of Christians. Rosie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rosie Posted November 16, 2016 Members Share Posted November 16, 2016 thank you John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Alan Posted January 20, 2017 Author Members Share Posted January 20, 2017 (edited) Brethren, "I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions and giving of thanks, be made for all men; For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty." 1 Timothy 2:1 and 2 May we pray that God will bless President Donald Trump and those in authority over us. May we pray that President Trump, and our civic leaders, will be protected as they lead our country and to give them courage to abide by the Constitution of the United States of America and to do the will of God in matters for the betterment, and safety, of our country. I want to thank God for President Trump, and those in authority over us, and pray for their well-being.  http://video.foxnews.com/v/5290700957001/?#sp=show-clips  Psalm 133:1, "Behold, how good and how pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity!"  May God bless all of you. Alan Edited January 21, 2017 by Alan punctuation spelling grammer Shadowfeathers, Rosie and Invicta 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rosie Posted January 21, 2017 Members Share Posted January 21, 2017 I pray for them many times a day and will continue... Alan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John Young Posted January 21, 2017 Members Share Posted January 21, 2017   This is my "vise" president!  Amen?  vise vīs/ noun noun: vice; plural noun: vices; noun: vise; plural noun: vises a metal tool with movable jaws that are used to hold an object firmly in place while work is done on it, typically attached to a workbench. Origin data:image/png;base64,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 Alan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Invicta Posted January 21, 2017 Members Share Posted January 21, 2017 We call that a vice. Â (I think) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Invicta Posted January 21, 2017 Members Share Posted January 21, 2017 Yes we do. Â We say a vice like grip. Dictionary gives it Vice (en) Â Vise (am) There we are learning each other's language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fastjav390 Posted January 21, 2017 Members Share Posted January 21, 2017 The reason why I voted for Trump was three-fold. 1) I believe he was the best to protect our borders against what is essentially an invasion. 2) Criminals are more likely to be punished, not freed or even awarded, under his Presidency. 3) He will leave us alone and let us worship God according to conscience. I believe I have scripture to support these reasons and they should be the main reasons to elect someone as Presidency. Not whether he would make a good pastor or even if he is a Christian. Cruz would have been my second choice (probably my only other choice) but I wanted someone in office who was outside the establishment for once. Cruz was also too wishy-washy on the border issue. It would be nice to see Cruz make the Supreme Court. 777 and Alan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members heartstrings Posted January 21, 2017 Members Share Posted January 21, 2017 On ‎11‎/‎8‎/‎2016 at 3:44 PM, Ukulelemike said: I dunno, God ordained a lot of ungodly men as king in Israel and Judah, and even the best ones, like David (murderer and adulterer) had problems. Voting for an unsaved man is not yoking with anyone-it is considering the best of the two, the one who will more likely uphold the laws of the land, (their job), and leave the final results to the Lord. Then, once someone is chosen, we are to follow them insofar as we are not told to walk outside the Bible's boundaries. The Lord ordains the powers that be. Exactly Alan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members heartstrings Posted January 21, 2017 Members Share Posted January 21, 2017 What will definitely make America great again? 2 Chroncles 7:14 Humble ourselves, and pray, seek God's face, turn from our wicked ways.......and pray for President Trump! swathdiver and Alan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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