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      James Foley
       
      I Corinthians 11:17-34: "Now in this that I declare unto you I praise you not, that ye come together not for the better, but for the worse. For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it. For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you. When ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat the Lord's Supper. For in eating every one taketh before other his own supper: and one is hungry, and another is drunken. What? have ye not houses to eat and to drink in? or despise ye the church of God, and shame them that have not? What shall I say to you? shall I praise you in this? I praise you not. For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread: And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me. For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do show the Lord's death till he come. Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord. But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup. For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body. For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep. For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged. But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world. Wherefore, my brethren, when ye come together to eat, tarry one for another. And if any man hunger, let him eat at home; that ye come not together unto condemnation. And the rest will I set in order when I come."

      INTRODUCTION

      Historic Baptists, true Baptists, have believed in and still believe in closed communion. Baptists impose upon themselves the same restrictions that they impose on others concerning the Lord’s Supper. Baptists have always insisted that it is the Lord’s Table, not theirs; and He alone has the right to say who shall sit at His table. No amount of so called brotherly love, or ecumenical spirit, should cause us to invite to His table those who have not complied with the requirements laid down plainly in His inspired Word. With respect to Bible doctrines we must always use the scripture as our guide and practice. For Baptists, two of the most important doctrines are Baptism and The Lord’s Supper. These are the only two doctrines we recognize as Church Ordinances. The Bible is very clear in teaching how these doctrines are to be practiced and by whom.

      We only have two ordinances that we must never compromise or we risk our very existence, they are Baptism and The Lord’s Supper.

      The moment we deviate from the precise method God has prescribed we have started down the slippery slope of error. True Baptists have held fast to the original doctrine of The Lord’s Supper from the time of Christ and the Apostles.

      Unfortunately, in this day of what the Bible describes as the age of luke warmness, Baptists are becoming careless in regard to strictly following the pattern laid out for us in Scripture. Many of our Bible colleges are graduating otherwise sincere, Godly and dedicated pastors and teachers who have not been taught the very strict, biblical requirements that surround the Lord’s Supper. Any Bible college that neglects to teach its students the differences surrounding Closed Communion, Close Communion and Open Communion is not simply short changing its students; it is also not equipping their students to carry on sound Bible traditions. The result is men of God and churches that fall into error. And as we will see, this is serious error.

      Should we as Baptists ignore the restrictions made by our Lord and Master? NO! When we hold to the restrictions placed upon the Lord’s Supper by our Master, we are defending the "faith which was once delivered to the saints" Jude 3.

      The Lord’s Supper is rigidly restricted and I will show this in the following facts:

      IT IS RESTRICTED AS TO PLACE

      A. I Corinthians 11:18 says, "When ye come together in the church." This does not mean the church building; they had none. In other words, when the church assembles. The supper is to be observed by the church, in church capacity. Again this does not mean the church house. Ekklesia, the Greek word for church, means assembly. "When ye come together in the church," is when the church assembles.

      B. When we say church we mean an assembly of properly baptized believers. Acts 2:41-42: "Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls. And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers."

      The church is made up of saved people who are baptized by immersion. In the Bible, belief precedes baptism. That’s the Bible way.

      Acts 8:12-13, "But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women. Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized, he continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles and signs which were done."

      When we say properly baptized, we mean immersed. No unbeliever should take the Lord’s supper, and no non-immersed believer should take the supper. Those who are sprinkled are not baptized and cannot receive the supper. The Greek word for baptize is baptizo, and it always means to immerse.

      "In every case where communion is referred to, or where it may possibly have been administered, the believers had been baptized Acts 2:42; 8:12; 8:38; 10:47; 6:14-15; 18:8; 20:7. Baptism comes before communion, just as repentance and faith precede baptism".

      C. The Lord’s Supper is for baptized believers in church capacity: "When ye come together in the church," again not a building, but the assembly of the properly baptized believers.

      D. The fact that the Lord’s Supper is a church ordinance, to be observed in church capacity, is pointed out by the fact that it is for those who have been immersed and added to the fellowship of the church.

      E. The Lord’s Supper is never spoken of in connection with individuals. When it is referred to, it is only referred to in reference to baptized believers in local church capacity I Cor. 11:20-26).

      I want to quote Dr. W.W. Hamilton,

      "The individual administration of the ordinance has no Bible warrant and is a relic of Romanism. The Lord’s Supper is a church ordinance, and anything which goes beyond or comes short of this fails for want of scriptural example or command".

      “The practice of taking a little communion kit to hospitals, nursing homes, etc. is unscriptural and does not follow the scriptural example.”

      IT IS RESTRICTED TO A UNITED CHURCH

      A. The Bible in I Cor. 11:18 is very strong in condemning divisions around the Lord’s table. For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it.
      19 For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.
      20 When ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat the Lord's supper.

      There were no less than four divisions in the Corinthian church.
      I Cor. 1:12: "Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ."

      Because of these divisions, it was impossible for them to scripturally eat the Lord’s Supper. Division in the local church is reason to hold off observing the Lord’s Supper. But there are also other reasons to forego taking the Lord’s Supper. If there is gross sin in the membership we do not take it. Here is scriptural evidence for this: 1Co 5:7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our Passover is sacrificed for us:
      8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth. 9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:
      10 Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. 11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

      B. At this point, I want to ask these questions: Are there not doctrinal divisions among the many denominations? Is it not our doctrinal differences that cause us to be separate religious bodies?

      IT IS RESTRICTED BY DOCTRINE

      A. Those in the early church at Jerusalem who partook "continued stedfastly in the apostles’ doctrine" Acts 2:42. And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.

      B. Those that do not hold to apostolic truth are not to partake. This means there is to be discipline in the local body. How can you discipline those who do not belong to the local body? You can’t. The clear command of scripture is to withdraw fellowship from those who are not doctrinally sound.

      II Thes 3:6: "Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us."
      Rom. 16:17: "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them."
      To commune together means to have the same doctrine.
      II Thes. 2:15: "Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle."
      II John 10-11: "If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds."

      C. Some Baptists in our day have watered down this doctrine by practicing what they call “Close Communion.” By this they mean that they believe that members of another Baptist church may take communion with us because they are of the same beliefs. Once again, this is unscriptural.

      The welcome to the Lord's Table should not be extended beyond the discipline of the local church. When we take the Lord’s Supper there is supposed to be no gross sin among us and no divisions among us. We have no idea of the spiritual condition of another church’s members. If there is sin or division in the case of this other church’s members, we have no way of knowing it. We cannot discipline them because they are not members of our church. This is why we practice “Closed” communion, meaning it is restricted solely to our church membership. 
      So then, in closing I would like to reiterate the three different ideas concerning the Lord’s Supper and who is to take it. 
      Closed Communion = Only members of a single local church. 
      Close Communion = Members of like faith and order may partake. 
      Open Communion = If you claim to be a Christian, or simply attending the service, you may partake. 
      It is no small thing to attempt to change that which was implemented by our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. 
      Mt. 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen. 
      Many of our Baptist churches have a real need to consider the gravity of the act of observing The Lord’s Supper. It is not a light thing that is to be taken casually or without regard to the spiritual condition of ourselves or our church.
      1Co. 11:27 Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.

       28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.

       29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.

       30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.

Has anyone seen the movie "WAR ROOM"?:


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I put two copies on hold at the Christian bookstore in town back when it had just come out of the theater.  Therefore, I got a huge discount.  Has anyone seen the movie?  Is it just another one of Hollywood's drivel or does it has some real Biblical content?

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I haven't seen the movie...but after reading some of the reviews, I seriously doubt whether I want to see it at all.

Here is a review that one of my FB friends posted : War Room: A Review of the Movie and the Industry Surrounding It

Concerning Elements

There are several concerning elements of the film that one may or may not notice if he is watching he movie uncritically:

  • In one scene a man attempts to mug Clara and Elizabeth at knifepoint. Clara rebukes the man “in the name of Jesus”.  This kind of word of faith proclamation may work in the movies (and sometimes even in real life depending on a mugger’s background or God’s provision), however, a young person emboldened by the prayer theme of the movie may very well end up being stabbed if she imitates Clara’s example in real life.  This type of subtle word faith proclamation may be lost on conservative Southern Baptist audiences but it will certainly be noticed by Pentecostals who go to see the movie.
  • In another scene, Elizabeth is praying over the scriptures while Tony is on a business trip and out to dinner with a temptress. Elizabeth prays from the scriptures the phrase “resist the devil and he will flee”.  She repeats this line of scripture a few times.  In real life, Shirer is a proponent of contemplative prayer, a practice in which the prayer focuses on clearing her mind a repeating a specific phrase (similar to a mantra).  Those who are not aware of the practice of contemplative prayer will probably not notice that this scene touches the borderline of that practice.

Priscilla Shirer and Beth Moore are in this movie.  Both are advocates of contemplative prayer.

My advice---pray and use much discernment!

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Thanks Linda.  Obviously, we haven't watched the movie yet.  With what was said above, it sounds very charismatic.  Something I am certainly not into.  The only thing I can use from the movie is to point out the flaws to those who have blinders on.  Where I live, that is a lot of people.  Maybe by pointing out the deficiencies in the movie, people's eye might open and hearts may grow soft to the word of God.  Anyway, it is worth a shot.

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Eat the meat and spit out the bones as some say.  I watched it last night and enjoyed it as did the wife, friends and children.  Lots of laughs.

I do not think it crossed the line on contemplative prayer or mysticism.

I had one big bone to pick (maybe) but will not divulge such so as not to ruin the movie for y'all.

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Where do you find "eat the meat and spit out the bones" in the Bible?  Doesn't Scripture say that "A little leaven leaventh the whole lump"? (Galatians 5:9)  Error mixed with truth turns the truth into error.
 

Eat The Meat, Spit Out The Bones

There are a lot of clever-sounding sayings that make the rounds among Christians, and one of these is “eat the meat, and spit out the bones.” Many have written to exhort me to do this, and they mean that I shouldn’t worry so much about exposing error. They wonder why I can’t just “eat the meat, and spit out the bones.”

There is a bit of truth to this saying, in that God’s people are always to exercise biblical discernment when hearing sermons or reading Christian books. We are to “prove all things; hold fast that which is good” (1 Thessalonians 5:21).

But the Bible also twice warns that “a little leaven leaventh the whole lump” (1 Cor. 5:7; Gal. 5:9) and exhorts us to mark and avoid those who teach doctrine contrary to that which we have learned in Scripture (Rom. 16:17). There is great danger in eating the wrong spiritual meat!

What if the meat is rotten or poisoned or hasn’t been cooked or properly stored? The U.S. government regulates how restaurants must cook meat, because undercooked meat is dangerous. When I worked in a restaurant in my youth, I was taught to handle the meat very carefully and to store it properly, because it spoils easily. If you eat meat that is spoiled or poisoned or undercooked, even if you spit out the bones, you will be in trouble. The writings of men like Brian McLaren and Richard Foster and Chuck Colson and Rick Warren and C. S. Lewis contain plenty of rotten meat. Those who advise God’s people to “eat the meat, and spit out the bones,” must explain to us how they know that this “meat” is safe.

Also, what if the bones have splinters or what if you get a bone stuck in your throat? When I was growing up in Florida, I went fishing often with my dad and granddad, and they were careful about which fish they kept and which they threw away, because some had too many bones to eat safely. And Mom was very careful to keep an eye on us when we were eating fish because of the ever-present danger of getting a bone stuck in our throats. This happened from time to time anyway, and it was a very unpleasant thing and, in fact, can be fatal. Likewise, very few Christians are able to wade through sermons or books by compromising preachers on their own and expertly spit out all of the “bones” of error. One of the reasons why so many fundamental Baptists are becoming New Evangelical is because they are reading New Evangelical books and blogs and listening to New Evangelical sermons.

And what if you don’t know the difference between meat and bones? A toddler doesn’t know the difference, and if it tries to eat meat and spit out bones, it will quickly be in trouble. Likewise, the average Christian today is far too biblically ignorant and carnal to distinguish properly between truth and cleverly presented error.

My friends, beware of clever sayings that aren’t supported by Scripture.

We live in a shallow, apostate, carnal age, and it behooves us to study the Bible diligently and to think biblically!!!!

One pastor who read this article replied:

“The problem I have with this statement is that sometimes the truth is hard to swallow, so it is spit out and called ‘bones.’ The ‘eat the meat, spit out the bones’ mentality is pretty much the same as Burger King’s ‘Have it your way’ mentality. Sinful man is always prone to create a hybrid Christianity that suits his tastes and preconceived notions about what he wants God to be.”

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12 hours ago, swathdiver said:

Eat the meat and spit out the bones as some say.  I watched it last night and enjoyed it as did the wife, friends and children.  Lots of laughs.

I do not think it crossed the line on contemplative prayer or mysticism.

I had one big bone to pick (maybe) but will not divulge such so as not to ruin the movie for y'all.

Thanks Swath.  I understand what you are saying.  I have always had much discernment, obviously, I would not have left the RCC in my mind in the 2nd grade.  Then, I begged my parents to leave in the 8th grade for good, saying I did my duty.  Lol


Considering the majority of people in my area are RC's, I wouldn't suggest the movie for them to watch but I would give them a synopsis and let them know the un-Biblical things in the movie.  I do that with so many of these Hollywood movies anyway.  Sure I get flack from people, but I back that up with scripture.  Even though their carnal minds are unable to grasp the word of God, the word doesn't return void.  It is amazing when I throw scripture out there how people become silent.

Great article Linda and so very true!  Dr. James Beller, pastor and Baptist Biblical historian, wrote in his last book "The Coming Destruction of the Baptist People" (I believe that is the name) that there would be a huge divide between fundamentalists and evangelicals.  We can't stop what God is going to do.  However, pointing out Biblical flaws to people should be a priority to all Christians.  I know many baby Christians who will argue with me on movies such as these.  I just give them the scriptures, as you did above and leave it at that.  There is no sense arguing.  A baby believer, as you know, is still drinking the milk and the meat might turn them away.  After scripture is given to back up what I am saying, they usually back down anyway.  As for the unsaved?  I always suggest other movies that hold to Biblical truth.    

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On 1/2/2016 at 3:10 AM, LindaR said:

Where do you find "eat the meat and spit out the bones" in the Bible?  Doesn't Scripture say that "A little leaven leaventh the whole lump"?

You're absolutely right, it's not bible, it is of the flesh.  I've said the same thing here in years past.  I might even have quoted that same article!  Certainly read it before!  hehehe  I was at our friend's house for New Years and they put on the movie and we all watched it.  Thankfully, my children are learned enough to pick out the unscriptural parts, I had little to point out when we got home.

I'm a sinner saved by grace and largely stay away from modern movies but I have a hankerin' to see The Revenant, as I'm a black powder guy with an interest in that era, I watch the old movies on my DVR, the Lord still answers my prayers.  But I'm still repenting too!  Will I go to a theater and watch it?  I'm mighty tempted, but if my wife and I start with dinner, we'll be too pooped to go a movie afterwards!  Well, our car needs an oil change and two new tires...  

 

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13 hours ago, swathdiver said:

I have a hankerin' to see The Revenant,

so does my husband! :D

13 hours ago, swathdiver said:

Thankfully, my children are learned enough to pick out the unscriptural parts, I had little to point out when we got home. 

Growing up there was a couple shows on the Family Channel called Superbook and The Flying House.  They were animated shows dealing with Bible stories.  We were allowed to watch them, but Mom made a point to grill us on what was wrong in each episode.  They never truly stuck to scripture in dramatizing the stories.  We do a disservice to our kids if we completely isolate them from these kinds of things.  My husband taught in a Christian school and one boy who graduated had been completely sheltered his entire life -- church and Christian school was his only exposure.  He went to attend an apprenticeship camp ministry and there was a counselor there who had a differing view of something scriptural.  It wasn't something serious, didn't affect salvation, but this kid had never been exposed to differing viewpoints, couldn't research it for himself, couldn't defend his position, and basically short-circuited and left the program.  He went for years floundering, got involved with a questionable woman, etc.  He is now in ministry, but things didn't look good for him for quite awhile.  We have to be careful in how we expose our kids and train them, but if they are never in positions where they have to be stretched and tested along the way we don't know if we are being effective.

There is a companion book for that film called The Battle Plan for Prayer, which may end up being very popular if the movie is.  My concern is what does that book teach, if it's based on what was shown in the movie, that is something we probably need to be prepared to give answers for....

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13 hours ago, swathdiver said:

You're absolutely right, it's not bible, it is of the flesh.  I've said the same thing here in years past.  I might even have quoted that same article!  Certainly read it before!  hehehe  I was at our friend's house for New Years and they put on the movie and we all watched it.  Thankfully, my children are learned enough to pick out the unscriptural parts, I had little to point out when we got home.

I'm a sinner saved by grace and largely stay away from modern movies but I have a hankerin' to see The Revenant, as I'm a black powder guy with an interest in that era, I watch the old movies on my DVR, the Lord still answers my prayers.  But I'm still repenting too!  Will I go to a theater and watch it?  I'm mighty tempted, but if my wife and I start with dinner, we'll be too pooped to go a movie afterwards!  Well, our car needs an oil change and two new tires...  

 

I dunno-I have heard the Revenant is extremely gory and violent-not my cup o' tea.

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The book, "Battle Plan for Prayer", is connected with the movie but not really based on the movie. From what I recall of the book it's strictly a book pointing out examples of prayer in Scripture, how we should pray for everything and trust God. Basically, it's a book on prayer using the Bible as the model for prayer and has no other actual connection to the movie other than who put these out.

I liked the book, which I've read, but I've not heard much good about the movie, which I've not seen.

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18 minutes ago, John81 said:

The book, "Battle Plan for Prayer", is connected with the movie but not really based on the movie. From what I recall of the book it's strictly a book pointing out examples of prayer in Scripture, how we should pray for everything and trust God. Basically, it's a book on prayer using the Bible as the model for prayer and has no other actual connection to the movie other than who put these out.

I liked the book, which I've read, but I've not heard much good about the movie, which I've not seen.

good to know.

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We watched it and enjoyed it. This whole thing with little points of error is a little overcautious in my opinion, for what little that is worth. What you will have in any movie that attempts to promote or adhere to biblical principals is one that will have flawed actors playing flawed characters with some flawed ideas. You will never have one that is 100% perfect and in agreement with what you or I believe. With these movies, I look at the premise. In this case, it's the power and need for prayer and a total reliance on God. None of the people in the movie are perfect. What a surprise! And what a perfect representation of real Christians! Yeah, the older lady (I don't remember her name) may cross the line a little bit on the mugging scene thing, but throughout the whole movie she's wholly given over to God, has a great prayer life, and is actively trying to disciple someone. I don't know about you, but some days I'd sure like to get 75% of my Christian walk right!

If you're looking to a movie to teach 100% correct doctrine, you're looking in the wrong place. Until a fundamental Baptist group starts producing quality movies, this is probably about as good as you're going to get. Even then, I'm sure there'd be some things in there to disagree with.

 

 

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I've not seen the movie and I can't recall details but those I know which saw it and spoke of it mentioned problems which were not small points. That said, I agree that even the best film will not be perfect. If we choose to partake of a movie we should recognize that going in. It also helps to take into consideration that movies tend to show things which take place over days, weeks, months, years, all compacted into a roughly two hour time frame.

There are only a few Christian movies I really like, some I thought were okay, and most just weren't very good. Thankfully, Christian movies are now able to be made at a much higher quality than previously and in some cases they do work hard to present a good Christian story line.

From personal experience I know the Lord can use even flawed Christian movies to accomplish His will. It was after seeing "A Thief In The Night" at a night church service that I was born again in Christ.

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8 hours ago, trapperhoney said:

so does my husband! :D

We do a disservice to our kids if we completely isolate them from these kinds of things. 

I dunno, I wish now I had not seen or done all the evils of this world that I was exposed to as a youngster.  Our oldest daughter struggles, even while attending a christian college, because she was little sheltered from the world until I was saved and then began to wise up.  Our younger ones are far better off not knowing the things she knows and it's a constant battle with the devil to protect them all from his evil designs on their hearts.  However,  when exposed to family, they get full doses of worldliness and the things Christians shouldn't be doing or seeing or being around!  Lord help continue to help us!

Well, we got the tires today so maybe it'll be out of the theaters in two weeks, then again, maybe not!  Mike, I don't like gore but don't mind violence in the context of war or fights between good versus evil, I should mind it, but don't.

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Those I know who were raised without TV, without public schooling, without secular music, without movies, all entered adulthood far more mature than others their age, but also very grounded in the Word, sure of their salvation, sure of their faith and more than ready to enter "the real world".

Protecting our children is something we are called to do. It gets back to Swath's important point regarding separation. One of the main reasons so many of us, and American Christians in general, are more open to these things to one extent or another is because we grew up with such so it seems natural and acceptable to us. This, as a more extreme example, is how we get Christians which point to Star Wars and claim it's really like a Christian movie.

I agree with Swath, there are so many things I saw, heard and experienced that I wish I never had. As well, I wish I had come to understand the importance of separation, especially with regards to raising children, much sooner than I did.

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I certainly didn't mean that we should be exposing our children to harmful worldly things, just trying to emphasize that we do need to ground them properly in the Word and prepare them for the challenges they will face in their faith.  The illustration I gave was not of a young man getting blindsided by something worldly, but a differing opinion of scripture by a brother in Christ.  Even though he was raised in a Christian home and faithfully tended church he was not adequately prepared for that situation.  He was taught what to believe, but not given the tools to study for himself, to scripturally defend his position or how to interact graciously with a brother of differing opinion.  That is the disservice I speak of.

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Just FYI, Revenant is  rated "R for strong frontier combat and violence including gory images, a sexual assault, language and brief nudity." The combat and violence wouldn't bother my hubby, but the rest of it would rule the movie out.

As to War Room, it is a movie we have wanted to see. We've seen a number of Christian movies that are well-acted (and  many not so well :lol: ) and have to admit that we've never seen one we agree with 100%. Leaving out movies like The Printing (LOVE that movie), which tell a story more than try to teach doctrine.

 

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7 hours ago, HappyChristian said:

Just FYI, Revenant is  rated "R for strong frontier combat and violence including gory images, a sexual assault, language and brief nudity." The combat and violence wouldn't bother my hubby, but the rest of it would rule the movie out.

As to War Room, it is a movie we have wanted to see. We've seen a number of Christian movies that are well-acted (and  many not so well :lol: ) and have to admit that we've never seen one we agree with 100%. Leaving out movies like The Printing (LOVE that movie), which tell a story more than try to teach doctrine.

 

Wow, didn't know that about Revenant.  Hubby will be disappointed :(

Isn't Edward Panosian in The Printing?  I got to meet him, really nice guy, very knowledgeable about the Bible, it was awesome hearing him speak.  Hubby and I love the movie Sheffey.

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I wonder if it's any worse than The Outlaw Josey Wales?  When objectionable scenes like that come up I get to fast forward or look away as they truly bother me now, thank the Lord!  

I had no idea Christian movies existed other than those Left Behind movies and the ones put out by the Kendricks.  Very thankful for an alternative, even if not perfect.  Sheffey passed through my home but I was the only one to miss it.  I watched Heaven's Heroes on youtube, it was cheesey, done around 1980 but had a very good message that was worth overlooking the man pants on the ladies and the poor quality.  That company made many more but I've not seen them.  

On netflix a couple years ago, was a left behind/groundhog day type movie that took place on a yacht.  The gospel was preached but it was worldly and a bit cheesey too. 

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