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      James Foley
       
      I Corinthians 11:17-34: "Now in this that I declare unto you I praise you not, that ye come together not for the better, but for the worse. For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it. For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you. When ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat the Lord's Supper. For in eating every one taketh before other his own supper: and one is hungry, and another is drunken. What? have ye not houses to eat and to drink in? or despise ye the church of God, and shame them that have not? What shall I say to you? shall I praise you in this? I praise you not. For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread: And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me. For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do show the Lord's death till he come. Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord. But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup. For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body. For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep. For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged. But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world. Wherefore, my brethren, when ye come together to eat, tarry one for another. And if any man hunger, let him eat at home; that ye come not together unto condemnation. And the rest will I set in order when I come."

      INTRODUCTION

      Historic Baptists, true Baptists, have believed in and still believe in closed communion. Baptists impose upon themselves the same restrictions that they impose on others concerning the Lord’s Supper. Baptists have always insisted that it is the Lord’s Table, not theirs; and He alone has the right to say who shall sit at His table. No amount of so called brotherly love, or ecumenical spirit, should cause us to invite to His table those who have not complied with the requirements laid down plainly in His inspired Word. With respect to Bible doctrines we must always use the scripture as our guide and practice. For Baptists, two of the most important doctrines are Baptism and The Lord’s Supper. These are the only two doctrines we recognize as Church Ordinances. The Bible is very clear in teaching how these doctrines are to be practiced and by whom.

      We only have two ordinances that we must never compromise or we risk our very existence, they are Baptism and The Lord’s Supper.

      The moment we deviate from the precise method God has prescribed we have started down the slippery slope of error. True Baptists have held fast to the original doctrine of The Lord’s Supper from the time of Christ and the Apostles.

      Unfortunately, in this day of what the Bible describes as the age of luke warmness, Baptists are becoming careless in regard to strictly following the pattern laid out for us in Scripture. Many of our Bible colleges are graduating otherwise sincere, Godly and dedicated pastors and teachers who have not been taught the very strict, biblical requirements that surround the Lord’s Supper. Any Bible college that neglects to teach its students the differences surrounding Closed Communion, Close Communion and Open Communion is not simply short changing its students; it is also not equipping their students to carry on sound Bible traditions. The result is men of God and churches that fall into error. And as we will see, this is serious error.

      Should we as Baptists ignore the restrictions made by our Lord and Master? NO! When we hold to the restrictions placed upon the Lord’s Supper by our Master, we are defending the "faith which was once delivered to the saints" Jude 3.

      The Lord’s Supper is rigidly restricted and I will show this in the following facts:

      IT IS RESTRICTED AS TO PLACE

      A. I Corinthians 11:18 says, "When ye come together in the church." This does not mean the church building; they had none. In other words, when the church assembles. The supper is to be observed by the church, in church capacity. Again this does not mean the church house. Ekklesia, the Greek word for church, means assembly. "When ye come together in the church," is when the church assembles.

      B. When we say church we mean an assembly of properly baptized believers. Acts 2:41-42: "Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls. And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers."

      The church is made up of saved people who are baptized by immersion. In the Bible, belief precedes baptism. That’s the Bible way.

      Acts 8:12-13, "But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women. Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized, he continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles and signs which were done."

      When we say properly baptized, we mean immersed. No unbeliever should take the Lord’s supper, and no non-immersed believer should take the supper. Those who are sprinkled are not baptized and cannot receive the supper. The Greek word for baptize is baptizo, and it always means to immerse.

      "In every case where communion is referred to, or where it may possibly have been administered, the believers had been baptized Acts 2:42; 8:12; 8:38; 10:47; 6:14-15; 18:8; 20:7. Baptism comes before communion, just as repentance and faith precede baptism".

      C. The Lord’s Supper is for baptized believers in church capacity: "When ye come together in the church," again not a building, but the assembly of the properly baptized believers.

      D. The fact that the Lord’s Supper is a church ordinance, to be observed in church capacity, is pointed out by the fact that it is for those who have been immersed and added to the fellowship of the church.

      E. The Lord’s Supper is never spoken of in connection with individuals. When it is referred to, it is only referred to in reference to baptized believers in local church capacity I Cor. 11:20-26).

      I want to quote Dr. W.W. Hamilton,

      "The individual administration of the ordinance has no Bible warrant and is a relic of Romanism. The Lord’s Supper is a church ordinance, and anything which goes beyond or comes short of this fails for want of scriptural example or command".

      “The practice of taking a little communion kit to hospitals, nursing homes, etc. is unscriptural and does not follow the scriptural example.”

      IT IS RESTRICTED TO A UNITED CHURCH

      A. The Bible in I Cor. 11:18 is very strong in condemning divisions around the Lord’s table. For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it.
      19 For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.
      20 When ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat the Lord's supper.

      There were no less than four divisions in the Corinthian church.
      I Cor. 1:12: "Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ."

      Because of these divisions, it was impossible for them to scripturally eat the Lord’s Supper. Division in the local church is reason to hold off observing the Lord’s Supper. But there are also other reasons to forego taking the Lord’s Supper. If there is gross sin in the membership we do not take it. Here is scriptural evidence for this: 1Co 5:7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our Passover is sacrificed for us:
      8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth. 9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:
      10 Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. 11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

      B. At this point, I want to ask these questions: Are there not doctrinal divisions among the many denominations? Is it not our doctrinal differences that cause us to be separate religious bodies?

      IT IS RESTRICTED BY DOCTRINE

      A. Those in the early church at Jerusalem who partook "continued stedfastly in the apostles’ doctrine" Acts 2:42. And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.

      B. Those that do not hold to apostolic truth are not to partake. This means there is to be discipline in the local body. How can you discipline those who do not belong to the local body? You can’t. The clear command of scripture is to withdraw fellowship from those who are not doctrinally sound.

      II Thes 3:6: "Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us."
      Rom. 16:17: "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them."
      To commune together means to have the same doctrine.
      II Thes. 2:15: "Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle."
      II John 10-11: "If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds."

      C. Some Baptists in our day have watered down this doctrine by practicing what they call “Close Communion.” By this they mean that they believe that members of another Baptist church may take communion with us because they are of the same beliefs. Once again, this is unscriptural.

      The welcome to the Lord's Table should not be extended beyond the discipline of the local church. When we take the Lord’s Supper there is supposed to be no gross sin among us and no divisions among us. We have no idea of the spiritual condition of another church’s members. If there is sin or division in the case of this other church’s members, we have no way of knowing it. We cannot discipline them because they are not members of our church. This is why we practice “Closed” communion, meaning it is restricted solely to our church membership. 
      So then, in closing I would like to reiterate the three different ideas concerning the Lord’s Supper and who is to take it. 
      Closed Communion = Only members of a single local church. 
      Close Communion = Members of like faith and order may partake. 
      Open Communion = If you claim to be a Christian, or simply attending the service, you may partake. 
      It is no small thing to attempt to change that which was implemented by our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. 
      Mt. 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen. 
      Many of our Baptist churches have a real need to consider the gravity of the act of observing The Lord’s Supper. It is not a light thing that is to be taken casually or without regard to the spiritual condition of ourselves or our church.
      1Co. 11:27 Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.

       28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.

       29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.

       30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.

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1 hour ago, Ukulelemike said:

I dunno-when the Bible specifically refers to believer as not being overtaken as by a thief, it sort of negates being overtaken as a thief in my mind. But you're right, we will take what we want from it.

So, wait, if the seals aren't opened until after the mid-point of the 7 years, what's happening during the first half? Seems the very first thing that occurs when John arrives in heaven in his vision, is the presentation of the Lamb and the book, which he then proceeds to open. The seals preview the entire 7 years and the falling of the wrath.

Yikes sorry Mike, not seals, vials.

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18 minutes ago, candlelight said:

Just a little slideshow on the "catching away" in the "twinkling of an eye"... A.K.A. "Rapture"

https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=E4A3F033CAFA05CF!8228&ithint=file%2Cpptx&app=PowerPoint&authkey=!ADjRVPU1qjCFp4k

Okay, but can we please set this back on track? Nice presentation, though no sound.

You do bring out a point I had not made-if the rapture takes place just prior to the tribulation period, why is it that we don't see the bride and bridegroom brought together for the marriage supper of the Lamb until Ch 19? 

In scripture, in Revelation, we see, in Ch 14, as I have stated, the reaping of the earth's harvest by Jesus, then the gathering of the grapes of the earth, which are cast into the winepress of God's wrath.

Ch. 15, the seven angels bearing the seven last plagues, "for in them is filled up the wrath of God", and their preparation for pouring out this wrath.

Ch 16, the outpouring of the vials of wrath upon the earth and its inhabitants, (different from what had fallen before this, as, at that time, those judgments were not cast upon those who had been sealed by the Lord);

Ch 17: a view of the great whore and the kingdoms of the Antichrist, (parenthetical, not activites in the timeline);

Ch 18: the declaration of the judgment which had taken place with the outpouring of God's wrath in Ch 16;

THEN, in 19, the declaration of God's victory over the wicked in judgment, and the announcement of the marriage supper of the lamb, then immediately, Jesus' triumphant return to earth as King and Lord upon a white horse, followed by the armies of Heaven, to take the earth to reign therein.

So, if the rapture took place way back seven years earlier, why did it take seven years before the marriage supper? Why take so long to declare that the Bride hath made herself ready? When the groom comes to receive his bride, they go immediately to the supper, don't they?

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This article by Dr. Renald E. Showers (Friends of Israel Gospel Ministry, Inc.)  is an excerpt from a chapter in his book "Maranatha Our Lord, Come!: A Definitive Study of the Rapture of the Church".  The name of the article is "Behold, The Bridegroom Comes!" - Jewish Marriage  Customs.

It defines how Jewish Marriage customs relate to the Pre-tribulation rapture "catching away" of the Church/Bride of Christ

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6 hours ago, Ukulelemike said:

Okay, but can we please set this back on track? Nice presentation, though no sound.

You do bring out a point I had not made-if the rapture takes place just prior to the tribulation period, why is it that we don't see the bride and bridegroom brought together for the marriage supper of the Lamb until Ch 19? 

In scripture, in Revelation, we see, in Ch 14, as I have stated, the reaping of the earth's harvest by Jesus, then the gathering of the grapes of the earth, which are cast into the winepress of God's wrath.

Ch. 15, the seven angels bearing the seven last plagues, "for in them is filled up the wrath of God", and their preparation for pouring out this wrath.

Ch 16, the outpouring of the vials of wrath upon the earth and its inhabitants, (different from what had fallen before this, as, at that time, those judgments were not cast upon those who had been sealed by the Lord);

Ch 17: a view of the great whore and the kingdoms of the Antichrist, (parenthetical, not activites in the timeline);

Ch 18: the declaration of the judgment which had taken place with the outpouring of God's wrath in Ch 16;

THEN, in 19, the declaration of God's victory over the wicked in judgment, and the announcement of the marriage supper of the lamb, then immediately, Jesus' triumphant return to earth as King and Lord upon a white horse, followed by the armies of Heaven, to take the earth to reign therein.

So, if the rapture took place way back seven years earlier, why did it take seven years before the marriage supper? Why take so long to declare that the Bride hath made herself ready? When the groom comes to receive his bride, they go immediately to the supper, don't they?

Oh well, it was worth a shot.  Pictures and all in the slideshow.  Lol

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7 hours ago, Standing Firm In Christ said:
7 hours ago, Standing Firm In Christ said:

Easily answered...

 

The Bride was there, however the guests had not all arrived yet.  The 144,000 sealed Jews, the many killed because they refused to take the mark of the beast; these are all guests of the marriage supper and would die during the tribulation.

 

Actually, when the Groom went to retreive his bride, al the guests and servants were with him-the LAST thing the groom did was to retreive his bride. So really, it makes more sense for a post-trib/pre-wrath rapture. 

 

6 hours ago, LindaR said:

This article by Dr. Renald E. Showers (Friends of Israel Gospel Ministry, Inc.)  is an excerpt from a chapter in his book "Maranatha Our Lord, Come!: A Definitive Study of the Rapture of the Church".  The name of the article is "Behold, The Bridegroom Comes!" - Jewish Marriage  Customs.

It defines how Jewish Marriage customs relate to the Pre-tribulation rapture "catching away" of the Church/Bride of Christ

A quote from this article: "After the groom received his bride together with her female attendants, the enlarged wedding party would return from the bride's home to the groom's father's house.12 Upon arrival there the wedding party would find that the wedding guests had assembled already."

Notice, the guests were already assembled when the groom brought his bride to the marriage supper. So the bride was the LAST person to attend.

Thank you all for giving me more reasons to hold to a post-trib/pre-wrath rapture position. Keep em coming!

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On 12/30/2015 at 9:32 PM, Ukulelemike said:

Actually, when the Groom went to retreive his bride, al the guests and servants were with him-the LAST thing the groom did was to retreive his bride. So really, it makes more sense for a post-trib/pre-wrath rapture. 

 

A quote from this article: "After the groom received his bride together with her female attendants, the enlarged wedding party would return from the bride's home to the groom's father's house.12 Upon arrival there the wedding party would find that the wedding guests had assembled already."

Notice, the guests were already assembled when the groom brought his bride to the marriage supper. So the bride was the LAST person to attend.

Thank you all for giving me more reasons to hold to a post-trib/pre-wrath rapture position. Keep em coming!

Nothing since December Uke?

Makes me wonder if you stumped'em once again!

Truth does bare itself once again!

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On Saturday, July 09, 2016 at 10:50 PM, Genevanpreacher said:

Nothing since December Uke?

Makes me wonder if you stumped'em once again!

Truth does bare itself once again!

What a stupid statement to make.

How does no answer make your ideas right?

There could be any number of other reasons for people to stop answering. 

For instance, Uke has taken to just saying he won't continue once he gets challenged, so what is the point?

Or you just resort to name calling and sarcasm when you get challenged, so again, what's the point?

Or how about this thread being about a movie not about the bride etc and people deciding not to sidetrack it any further?

 

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7 hours ago, DaveW said:

What a stupid statement to make.

How does no answer make your ideas right?

There could be any number of other reasons for people to stop answering. 

For instance, Uke has taken to just saying he won't continue once he gets challenged, so what is the point?

Or you just resort to name calling and sarcasm when you get challenged, so again, what's the point?

Or how about this thread being about a movie not about the bride etc and people deciding not to sidetrack it any further?

 

Stupid statement?

Name calling?

What's with the condescending attitude Dave?

So when the same thing was done to me a while back it sure wasn't 'stupid'. You are interesting. 

Ok brother. I will just shut my mouth.

Thanks anyway.

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On 7/15/2016 at 7:03 AM, DaveW said:

What a stupid statement to make.

How does no answer make your ideas right?

There could be any number of other reasons for people to stop answering. 

For instance, Uke has taken to just saying he won't continue once he gets challenged, so what is the point?

Or you just resort to name calling and sarcasm when you get challenged, so again, what's the point?

Or how about this thread being about a movie not about the bride etc and people deciding not to sidetrack it any further?

 

I never said I will stop if I get challenged, just some things aren't worth a fight. However I think there are plenty of examples that show I am more than willing to carry on an argument if I believe I am correct and its something worth making a hard stand about. Considering I am the last one to make an argument for my position on this shows I am certainly willing. 

But I agree that it was sidetracked.

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5 minutes ago, Ukulelemike said:

I never said I will stop if I get challenged, just some things aren't worth a fight. However I think there are plenty of examples that show I am more than willing to carry on an argument if I believe I am correct and its something worth making a hard stand about. Considering I am the last one to make an argument for my position on this shows I am certainly willing. 

But I agree that it was sidetracked.

Mike, I was giving a number of valid reasons why the duscussion was not proceeding further OTHER than the silly assumption that your argument had beaten everyone.

His intent with that post was to provoke and cause division, not to progress the discussion.

I waited for a while and then pointed out that it was a stupid argument.

I have no idea what the rest of his rambling is about, but I am glad he finds me "interesting" in several threads.

We can only hope he holds to his second last sentence.

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2 hours ago, DaveW said:

I have no idea what the rest of his rambling is about, but I am glad he finds me "interesting" in several threads.

We can only hope he holds to his second last sentence.

:nuts:

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