There she goes/ Supreme Court ruling

[John81]

In many churches the whole counsel of God isn't preached. In some churches only a few pet or preferred points of Scripture are preached. In some of these politics or social issues override Scripture. Some churches have adopted the "social gospel" as their central theme rather than Scripture.

In witnessing to lost "christians" I've found them to be a very difficult group. While they might accept a tract and simple greeting, most will bristle at the idea they need to hear the Gospel. They are quick to declare themselves to be Christians and quick to lash out, quote "judge not..." and declare the one trying to share Christ with them as being judgmental, a hater, mean-spirited, not a real Christian, etc.

I've actually had better results witnessing to Catholics who were sincere in wanting to walk with God but had no idea so much of what the RCC teaches goes against Scripture. At the same time, those who are strong secular Catholics can be even more abrasive to try and share the Gospel with than those from wayward "protestant" (used in the general sense) churches.

[Potatochip]

The RCC doesn't even use the Bible.  They don't teach it in their schools they use catechism.  They add in Saints, purgatory, Mary etc.  Social Gospel first time I heard that was from an Assemblies of God congregant.   Another words trying to cure the ill's of a fallen world and fallen man by implementing the "principles" of the Bible.  Letting congregants go out there and fight the "good fight" and change society or convince society to see things their way using the Gospel in some cases to address any social ill.  The Gospel is the Gospel intended for Salvation not to debate issues with.  On the other hand I did seen Franklin Graham the other day use some verses for Salvation on Fox News.  "Jesus died for your sins" He managed to get quite a few verses in.  1 Timothy 115 made me aware of that they were using Salvation verses.  I never noticed that.  

I try not to be judgemental.  Hey 600 miles away on a computer you can do that.  In person well.  It can become an unpleasant debate.  So I try with an IFB pastors advice I might add.  To focus on Salvation, Bible verses.   Leave the apologetics and the controversial topics till I am done preaching the Good News because in some cases they will bring those topics up.  It's good to know apologetics to respond to what is being said.  However after preaching the Gospel to that person or persons.  Just a note a lot of these street preachers - not all that get into these verbal street brawls are arminian which teaches you can loose your salvation.  

Being that man was an Assemblies of God congregant as I mentioned above.  He of course believed in the "prosperity gospel".  The poor are rich in faith how many times does the Bible have to address that issue of the poor have people ignore it.  God mentions the poor of His people afflicted and oppressed, several times.   In the city you get the people shot in crack deals gone bad and other maladies on that nights news.  Yet you talk to a whole lot of people without they very much believe it's surprising really, hey some people are happy with what they have.  God hears the cry of the poor the Bible says it.  Jesus doesn't recognize flesh that would be respect of persons.  He does know if your his or not.

On the other hand with these apostate churches.  I have to agree with what several IFB pastors have said.  They line up with the RCC way to much and are pretty much offshoots of the RCC.  So one could say its a fine line but its not those church's believe in works salvation.  I would rather that term be applied instead of "social gospel", works salvation would be more accurate.

Edited July 1, 2015 by Potatochip

[John81]

Episcopal Church approves gay marriage, allowing religious weddings for same-sex couples -  http://bit.ly/1UaktOB

[Potatochip]

Episcopal Church approves gay marriage, allowing religious weddings for same-sex couples -  http://bit.ly/1UaktOB

Oh of course thats where a lot of this started.  With Bishop whats his face.  Look I don't know if your out in the rural areas.  John81 a lot of these apostate church's are in the city and the suburbs.  I don't know how to put it all you would have to see.  Yuppies lol thats what they used to be I guess.  Now with the coexist bumper stickers you know with all the symbols of all religions. Some of the poor in the city where I am are some of the finest believers in Christ you will ever find.  They will talk to you about Jesus in long conversation.  Works salvation churches are just that works salvation churches.  They get so goofy with their works they don't know which way is up any more.  True.  Salvation is believing in Jesus for Salvation of course thats it.  When your not your own.  Then He works in you to do his will.  Faith without works is dead.  Tell that to a Catholic or someone from her offspring church. Faith without works is dead.  Its like picking lotto numbers to them as in accord to picking out random verses.  If you don't have Jesus your not saved and its confusing.  Their pastors don't get it (obvious), they don't get it.  Its just some really good person (even if they admit the Trinity) with some really good works that they need to teach society and be examples for.  You would have to see for yourself what I am talking about.  I'm used to it.  United Methodist, PCA, Episcopal.  There is a whole list that has virtually the same approach as the RCC in their services.  PCA might be the exception.  They have some very activist people in those church's.  Meanwhile in the inner city.  You have a lot of Bible believing Christians its what you don't see on the news. 

Edited July 2, 2015 by Potatochip

[HappyChristian]

And I wonder how many Christians have wept over this and other travesties that have happened in recent years in this country. Wept and begged God for forgiveness for our part in this becoming a reality. Because we have not been what we should have been for far too many years.

And, yes, part of it is the voting/lack thereof. Not just voting Republican but not seeing to it that good people who believe the Constitution get into office. On all levels. But that pales in comparison to the lack of spirituality amongst far too many Christians of all stripes.

Talking about how awful this is and how sick they are is all well and good. But are we begging God for help, mercy and revival?  I don't think the majority are.

[Potatochip]

It's a mess LuAnne that's for sure.  The only Joy I seem get out of life is preaching the gospel.  All the discontent that seems to be in society.  Which there is a lot of sensationalism that the news loves to hunt for.  But it's still a fallen world.  It's enough for me that the governments keep cops on the street and protects us from external people that would harm us. The one institution that God ordained to keep order in a land,  government.  One could say they are finding rights in the Constitution that don't exist there.  I mean the overturning of the sodomy laws given the health risks.  The one that really got me and my jaw hit the floor was sodomite adoption I just can't get over that one. I still can't believe that is legal.  This marriage thing in my opinion is nothing compared to that malady.  Like I say following lust porn,  sin all over TV.  Were some of the major causes in my opinion.  Christians need to keep in mind God hands a person over to being a sodomite.  They aren't born with it.  It's not another's influence.  It was never psychological. Not retaining God in their thought pursuing the creature instead of the creator.  God says thats it thats just about enough.  It's interesting that its such a small percentage of the population so my guess is it takes a lot to get to that point where God gives them over.  Given the way society is this could be the tip of a future iceberg of whats coming with people that deny God.  I don't know.

Edited July 2, 2015 by Potatochip

[Guest]

There's a news article wherein a straight married couple are petitioning to allow for polygamous marriages in their state. This of course right on the heels of the SCOTUS 5 judge betrayal of America and the Constitution.

After that is granted because it will be deemed a civil right to have plural spouses, male and female because otherwise it would be sexist to only permit this for men and multiple wives, there will be homosexuals in polygamous unions. I refuse to call their sin marriage.

After that we'll hear of the ephebophiles petitioning the ACLU once again on their behalf , probably supported by NAMBLA as ACLU did once before, so that the ephebophile (molester of minor adolescents) demanding the right to marry their consenting victim(s), because it will elevate to a demand of polygamy as well there, and with parental permission in all 50 states.
That too will go to this unconscionable court and they'll make a five vote verdict that will once again send America closer to the sequel of Sodom.

 

God Save America!

Because with all the faith we've had in the midst of this the people of God are still being defeated by the stronger adversary.