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      I Corinthians 11:17-34: "Now in this that I declare unto you I praise you not, that ye come together not for the better, but for the worse. For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it. For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you. When ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat the Lord's Supper. For in eating every one taketh before other his own supper: and one is hungry, and another is drunken. What? have ye not houses to eat and to drink in? or despise ye the church of God, and shame them that have not? What shall I say to you? shall I praise you in this? I praise you not. For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread: And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me. For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do show the Lord's death till he come. Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord. But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup. For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body. For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep. For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged. But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world. Wherefore, my brethren, when ye come together to eat, tarry one for another. And if any man hunger, let him eat at home; that ye come not together unto condemnation. And the rest will I set in order when I come."

      INTRODUCTION

      Historic Baptists, true Baptists, have believed in and still believe in closed communion. Baptists impose upon themselves the same restrictions that they impose on others concerning the Lord’s Supper. Baptists have always insisted that it is the Lord’s Table, not theirs; and He alone has the right to say who shall sit at His table. No amount of so called brotherly love, or ecumenical spirit, should cause us to invite to His table those who have not complied with the requirements laid down plainly in His inspired Word. With respect to Bible doctrines we must always use the scripture as our guide and practice. For Baptists, two of the most important doctrines are Baptism and The Lord’s Supper. These are the only two doctrines we recognize as Church Ordinances. The Bible is very clear in teaching how these doctrines are to be practiced and by whom.

      We only have two ordinances that we must never compromise or we risk our very existence, they are Baptism and The Lord’s Supper.

      The moment we deviate from the precise method God has prescribed we have started down the slippery slope of error. True Baptists have held fast to the original doctrine of The Lord’s Supper from the time of Christ and the Apostles.

      Unfortunately, in this day of what the Bible describes as the age of luke warmness, Baptists are becoming careless in regard to strictly following the pattern laid out for us in Scripture. Many of our Bible colleges are graduating otherwise sincere, Godly and dedicated pastors and teachers who have not been taught the very strict, biblical requirements that surround the Lord’s Supper. Any Bible college that neglects to teach its students the differences surrounding Closed Communion, Close Communion and Open Communion is not simply short changing its students; it is also not equipping their students to carry on sound Bible traditions. The result is men of God and churches that fall into error. And as we will see, this is serious error.

      Should we as Baptists ignore the restrictions made by our Lord and Master? NO! When we hold to the restrictions placed upon the Lord’s Supper by our Master, we are defending the "faith which was once delivered to the saints" Jude 3.

      The Lord’s Supper is rigidly restricted and I will show this in the following facts:

      IT IS RESTRICTED AS TO PLACE

      A. I Corinthians 11:18 says, "When ye come together in the church." This does not mean the church building; they had none. In other words, when the church assembles. The supper is to be observed by the church, in church capacity. Again this does not mean the church house. Ekklesia, the Greek word for church, means assembly. "When ye come together in the church," is when the church assembles.

      B. When we say church we mean an assembly of properly baptized believers. Acts 2:41-42: "Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls. And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers."

      The church is made up of saved people who are baptized by immersion. In the Bible, belief precedes baptism. That’s the Bible way.

      Acts 8:12-13, "But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women. Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized, he continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles and signs which were done."

      When we say properly baptized, we mean immersed. No unbeliever should take the Lord’s supper, and no non-immersed believer should take the supper. Those who are sprinkled are not baptized and cannot receive the supper. The Greek word for baptize is baptizo, and it always means to immerse.

      "In every case where communion is referred to, or where it may possibly have been administered, the believers had been baptized Acts 2:42; 8:12; 8:38; 10:47; 6:14-15; 18:8; 20:7. Baptism comes before communion, just as repentance and faith precede baptism".

      C. The Lord’s Supper is for baptized believers in church capacity: "When ye come together in the church," again not a building, but the assembly of the properly baptized believers.

      D. The fact that the Lord’s Supper is a church ordinance, to be observed in church capacity, is pointed out by the fact that it is for those who have been immersed and added to the fellowship of the church.

      E. The Lord’s Supper is never spoken of in connection with individuals. When it is referred to, it is only referred to in reference to baptized believers in local church capacity I Cor. 11:20-26).

      I want to quote Dr. W.W. Hamilton,

      "The individual administration of the ordinance has no Bible warrant and is a relic of Romanism. The Lord’s Supper is a church ordinance, and anything which goes beyond or comes short of this fails for want of scriptural example or command".

      “The practice of taking a little communion kit to hospitals, nursing homes, etc. is unscriptural and does not follow the scriptural example.”

      IT IS RESTRICTED TO A UNITED CHURCH

      A. The Bible in I Cor. 11:18 is very strong in condemning divisions around the Lord’s table. For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it.
      19 For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.
      20 When ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat the Lord's supper.

      There were no less than four divisions in the Corinthian church.
      I Cor. 1:12: "Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ."

      Because of these divisions, it was impossible for them to scripturally eat the Lord’s Supper. Division in the local church is reason to hold off observing the Lord’s Supper. But there are also other reasons to forego taking the Lord’s Supper. If there is gross sin in the membership we do not take it. Here is scriptural evidence for this: 1Co 5:7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our Passover is sacrificed for us:
      8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth. 9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:
      10 Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. 11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

      B. At this point, I want to ask these questions: Are there not doctrinal divisions among the many denominations? Is it not our doctrinal differences that cause us to be separate religious bodies?

      IT IS RESTRICTED BY DOCTRINE

      A. Those in the early church at Jerusalem who partook "continued stedfastly in the apostles’ doctrine" Acts 2:42. And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.

      B. Those that do not hold to apostolic truth are not to partake. This means there is to be discipline in the local body. How can you discipline those who do not belong to the local body? You can’t. The clear command of scripture is to withdraw fellowship from those who are not doctrinally sound.

      II Thes 3:6: "Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us."
      Rom. 16:17: "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them."
      To commune together means to have the same doctrine.
      II Thes. 2:15: "Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle."
      II John 10-11: "If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds."

      C. Some Baptists in our day have watered down this doctrine by practicing what they call “Close Communion.” By this they mean that they believe that members of another Baptist church may take communion with us because they are of the same beliefs. Once again, this is unscriptural.

      The welcome to the Lord's Table should not be extended beyond the discipline of the local church. When we take the Lord’s Supper there is supposed to be no gross sin among us and no divisions among us. We have no idea of the spiritual condition of another church’s members. If there is sin or division in the case of this other church’s members, we have no way of knowing it. We cannot discipline them because they are not members of our church. This is why we practice “Closed” communion, meaning it is restricted solely to our church membership. 
      So then, in closing I would like to reiterate the three different ideas concerning the Lord’s Supper and who is to take it. 
      Closed Communion = Only members of a single local church. 
      Close Communion = Members of like faith and order may partake. 
      Open Communion = If you claim to be a Christian, or simply attending the service, you may partake. 
      It is no small thing to attempt to change that which was implemented by our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. 
      Mt. 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen. 
      Many of our Baptist churches have a real need to consider the gravity of the act of observing The Lord’s Supper. It is not a light thing that is to be taken casually or without regard to the spiritual condition of ourselves or our church.
      1Co. 11:27 Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.

       28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.

       29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.

       30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.

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Outside of the Gospel writings show me a verse where Paul says you must believe "he is the Christ" or you wont be saved?

 

You can call on his name to be saved but that calliing is not without understanding of his substitutionary death on the cross.

 

Really AVBB?  Are you really that blinded by your own cutting and slicing of the word of God?   

 

Romans 3:26 (KJV
26  To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.

 

1 Timothy 1:16 (KJV)
16  Howbeit for this cause I OBtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting. 

 

How much more than just the Gospels should I cut out...I know...We could cut out everything except the book and Esther, then there would be no God at all because God is not mentioned once in that book!

 

I need to take NN's advice and just shake off the dust and walk away.  This thread is closed to me now.

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I think we all need to reign in the use of the term 'fool' and all variations of it, because biblically, one who is a fool is one who rejectes the Lord and does not believe God exists, and I think we can all agree we don't fall into that category.

 

We also may disagree in these things, but let us attempt some more respectful attitudes in our disagreements. I am enjoying this thread, but if we can't respect one another even in our disagreements, I'll shut it down.

 

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I think we all need to reign in the use of the term 'fool' and all variations of it, because biblically, one who is a fool is one who rejectes the Lord and does not believe God exists, and I think we can all agree we don't fall into that category.

 

We also may disagree in these things, but let us attempt some more respectful attitudes in our disagreements. I am enjoying this thread, but if we can't respect one another even in our disagreements, I'll shut it down.

 

Thank you for your support.

Actually, there are also fools who do believe in God. 

Remember the story of Nicodemus, who came to Jesus by night?  John 3 tells us....

John 3:2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.

The Pharisees believed in God.  Yet Jesus referred to them as "fools" more than once.

Matthew 23:17 Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gold, or the temple that sanctifieth the gold?

Matthew 23:19 Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gift, or the altar that sanctifieth the gift?

Luke 11:40 Ye fools, did not he that made that which is without make that which is within also?

Luke 24:25 Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:

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Actually, there are also fools who do believe in God. 

Remember the story of Nicodemus, who came to Jesus by night?  John 3 tells us....

John 3:2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.

The Pharisees believed in God.  Yet Jesus referred to them as "fools" more than once.

Matthew 23:17 Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gold, or the temple that sanctifieth the gold?

Matthew 23:19 Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gift, or the altar that sanctifieth the gift?

Luke 11:40 Ye fools, did not he that made that which is without make that which is within also?

Luke 24:25 Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:

Perhaps you're amking an assumption about what the Pharisees believed? At least most of them. After all, if they believed Jesus had been sent by God, they were clearly rejecteing God when they rejected Him, even if they just believed He was a prophet. As well, they saw all of Jesus' miracles and still rejected Him. I think they believed in Moses and the law, and to them God was just an idea.

 

But that's just me. I think most of them had said in their hearts "there is no God".

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perhaps, possible. But who's to say we won't still, i dunno, drive cars? Does Jesus' return necessarily mean all technology will be done away with, and we will be a world of Amish, riding horse-drawn buggies?  Or maybe it just means that EVERYTHING will be holy and set apart for the Lord?

I sincerely hope so.  If we have the Lord, why do wee need all this so-called "modern" junk.  The Lord made all we need perfect .  . . . all else was conceived in the fallen mind of man after he was thrown out of the garden.  

Fir instance: Gen 4:20-22

 
20 And Adah bare Jabal: he was the father of such as dwell in tents, and of such as have cattle.
 
21 And his brother's name was Jubal: he was the father of all such as handle the harp and organ.
 
22 And Zillah, she also bare Tubal-cain, an instructer of every artificer in brass and iron: 
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Just a thought from a luddite mind.
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One has to also wonder that if we are made like Jesus, with resurrected form such as His, will we be able to pass through OBjects as He seemed and instantly go from one place to another? Perhaps any form of transportation will be more a matter of fun or entertainment, such as eating seems to be in the NH/NE.

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One has to also wonder that if we are made like Jesus, with resurrected form such as His, will we be able to pass through OBjects as He seemed and instantly go from one place to another? Perhaps any form of transportation will be more a matter of fun or entertainment, such as eating seems to be in the NH/NE.

Because its ALWAYS fun to drive a muscle car, even if we don't need to!

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Well I seem to have it in my head that the salvation we believe in, has been taught in Biblical form as "the Gospel".

So IMO the first four books in our NT, being called "the Gospels", are of most value to me, personally.

They tell me about this God who loved me so much, that he took upon himself the flesh of man, and came 'among us'.

Not that the Jews aren't important, but He came among 'humankind'. And that amazes me.

He came in compassion, friendship, and in a brotherly love that no one else has ever attained a level to, before, after or since.

 

I love you AVBB, and I want to state openly...I do not espouse the so-called teaching of "easy-believism",

Yet I do believe in "complete-believism", belief in Jesus as the Christ/Messiah and all that he stood for and accomplished

through the cross and resurrection, with all my heart. That is complete-believism in a nutshell.

 

By the way, the God of the Old Testament is/was also the Lord Jesus Christ,

so when man was told to love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, body, soul, and mind, 

that is also complete-believism.

 

Salvation in both Testaments.

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I did not say that one was not to believe in or on Jesus.

 

I said one is not saved by Believing he is Christ, Messiah or son of God.

 

I am truly amazed at all your nonsense.

 

I have never said anything in support of easy believism.

 

You guys are just great!  I am so glad I have you guys for my brethren.

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I did not say that one was not to believe in or on Jesus.

 

I said one is not saved by Believing he is Christ, Messiah or son of God.

 

I am truly amazed at all your nonsense.

 

I have never said anything in support of easy believism.

 

You guys are just great!  I am so glad I have you guys for my brethren.

 

I am sorry. You seem hurt.

Please know we are not the enemy because we tell you the truth. And I did not mean to infer that you said anything about easy believism.

I just remember it being mentioned and wanted you to know I wasn't for it. That is all.

Also, we are glad you are one of us. Hope we can 'grow' in the knowledge of Jesus Christ together, and not let differences of view to destroy

our ability to enlarge our teachings and learning on the scriptures.

 

I really think we are not so different from each other.

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Seems to me, if one doesn't knoW WHO Jesus is, we really can't have faith that He can do anything for us. Otherwise, we ask like Pharoah, "Who is the LORD, that I should OBey his voice...?"  Who is Jesus, that He can do anything for me?

 

Well, He is the Messiah, the promised one of God, revealed in Genesis 3 as the one who would bruise the serpent's, Satan's, head, which He did on Calvary. Etc, etc, prophecies, David, Solomon, etc..." 

 

What seems to be being espoused here by some is the basics of easy-believeism, "Just believe in Jesus and that He died for your sins, and you can go to heaven! Yay!"  ALL the information in the Bible about Jesus, from Moses and the prophets, the gospels and the epistles are 'able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith in Christ Jesus" (2Tim 3;15)  What scriptures do we think Paul was talking about to TImothy, that he knew from childhood? Certainly not the NEW Testament. Timothy was only half Hebrew, half Greek, raised by a Greek father and trained in both, but it wsas the OT that Paul lauded to him as being able to make him saved by faith in Christ Jesus. Not by the law or works or any such thing.

 

Here it is.

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We were looking at Acts 16 in our afternoon Bible study:

30 ..... Sirs, what must I do to be saved ?

31 And they said , Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved , and thy house.

 

I've heard that preached - a simple question, & a simple answer. Simple faith for salvation; faith without works.

 

Nonsense! The jailor was panicking, suicidal. He prOBably did not understand his own question, but he did know a man with the answer. The earthquake woke him up, but it's likely that before he dozed off, he had heard the way Paul and Silas prayed , and sang praises unto God: and the prisoners heard them. How could these men who had been severely beaten sing praises to a god who had had no power to protect them? Now he was terrified in all directions - fear of the prisoners escaping, & the punishment he would receive; fear of the God who answered prayer in such a spectacular manner, opening the prison & releasing the prisoners yet who did not escape. Perhaps they too wanted to hear what Paul & Silas had to say.

 

31 And they said , Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved , and thy house. 32 And they spake unto him the word of the Lord, and to all that were in his house. 33 And he took them the same hour of the night, and washed their stripes ; and was baptized , he and all his, straightway. 34 And when he had brought them into his house, he set meat before them , and rejoiced , believing in God with all his house.

 

So the jailer showed his belief by listening to the word of the Lord; he washed their stripes; and confessed his faith by baptism & fed & cared for his prisoners. To complete the contrast, he rejoiced , believing in God with all his house. Rejoicing is a repeated command in the letter Paul wrote to the Philippians. Were the other prisoners included in all that were in his house?

 

So the first church Paul established in Europe comprised Lydia & the women who prayed with her outside the city by the river, the jailor & his household, possibly other prisoners, possibly the spirit-delivered slave-girl & others mentioned only as brethren. What a mixed gathering!

 

He writes to them from another prison:

3 I thank my God upon every remembrance of you, 4 Always in every prayer of mine for you all making request with joy, 5 For your fellowship in the gospel from the first day until now; 6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:

 

What a mighty & enduring work of grace!

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Believe on or in Jesus is one thing.

 

But to say I believe he is the son of God does not save, or to say I believe he is the Christ it does not save, or to say I believe he is the Messiah does not save, not in the Church Age.

 

None of these save what saves is believing that Jesus died for your sins, That is the Gospel of the Grace of God.

 

That is the gospel Paul preached and gave to us.

 

That belief gives you Forgiveness of sins, the indwelling of the Holy Ghost, Adoption as sons, Justification before God, Imputed Holiness, Imputed Righteousness, and in the end Eternal Life in a brand new body.   No people from any age before or after will have what has been given us who believe the Gospel of the Grace of God, the substitutionary death of Christ.

 

Nothing but the grace of God through faith in the gospel of the Grace of God saves today.

 

I am not hurt at all of your rejection of the TRUTH of the Gospel of Grace but if you have trusted that your faith in him being Christ, Messiah or the son of God (not that he is not those things he is) then your salvation is in question because today only the Gospel of the Grace of God saves through faith alone in his finished work of the cross as given us by Paul.

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We were looking at Acts 16 in our afternoon Bible study:

30 ..... Sirs, what must I do to be saved ?

31 And they said , Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved , and thy house.

 

I've heard that preached - a simple question, & a simple answer. Simple faith for salvation; faith without works.

 

Nonsense! The jailor was panicking, suicidal. He prOBably did not understand his own question, but he did know a man with the answer. The earthquake woke him up, but it's likely that before he dozed off, he had heard the way Paul and Silas prayed , and sang praises unto God: and the prisoners heard them. How could these men who had been severely beaten sing praises to a god who had had no power to protect them? Now he was terrified in all directions - fear of the prisoners escaping, & the punishment he would receive; fear of the God who answered prayer in such a spectacular manner, opening the prison & releasing the prisoners yet who did not escape. Perhaps they too wanted to hear what Paul & Silas had to say.

 

31 And they said , Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved , and thy house. 32 And they spake unto him the word of the Lord, and to all that were in his house. 33 And he took them the same hour of the night, and washed their stripes ; and was baptized , he and all his, straightway. 34 And when he had brought them into his house, he set meat before them , and rejoiced , believing in God with all his house.

 

So the jailer showed his belief by listening to the word of the Lord; he washed their stripes; and confessed his faith by baptism & fed & cared for his prisoners. To complete the contrast, he rejoiced , believing in God with all his house. Rejoicing is a repeated command in the letter Paul wrote to the Philippians. Were the other prisoners included in all that were in his house?

 

So the first church Paul established in Europe comprised Lydia & the women who prayed with her outside the city by the river, the jailor & his household, possibly other prisoners, possibly the spirit-delivered slave-girl & others mentioned only as brethren. What a mixed gathering!

 

He writes to them from another prison:

3 I thank my God upon every remembrance of you, 4 Always in every prayer of mine for you all making request with joy, 5 For your fellowship in the gospel from the first day until now; 6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:

 

What a mighty & enduring work of grace!

 

You are so right my friend! Salvation is a 'new life', not just a simple key to open the door to eternity, we are to live our lives out, here, in his ways and teachings, and we get to grow and learn to love him and serve him more each and every day. It is a wonderful 'process' to be born again and live out our time left as we could never have imagined before we got saved.

 

That is just a cool thing to get to say! I love being a child of the Creator of all existence!

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Why is that we have some who carry on about how so many IFB Christians/pastors/churches are straying or falling away yet so little is being said (and nothing done) about those who keep promoting false gospels here?

 

Some will go all out with attacking posts over the issue of CCM, calling for action, and yet false gospels can be promoted in several threads?

 

Scripture is being twisted and ripped apart in order to justify false gospels in accord with some peoples private interpretations based upon a false understanding of "rightly dividing".

 

Add to this atrocity, these false teachings are often accompanied with personal insults and prideful boasting.

 

Is this what is becoming of IFBs?

 

Is this the future of OB?

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There are five gospels in the Bible.

The Gospel of Matthew; the Gospel of Mark; the Gospel of Luke; the Gospel of John ; and THE GOSPEL OF SALVATION BY FAITH IN CHRIST.

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