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I wanted to try at least to help those of you seem to be a little confused on dispensations and what they mean and how they apply to us today.  No where is dispensational promoting throwing out scriptures.

 

I hope these links will help give you an idea of what dispensational teaching is.

 

It will require you to view and try doing without critique. Try coming to it as if you are really willing to learn something.

 

This is Dr Ken Blue an Independent Fundamental Baptist Pastor.

 

the first is the law part two and the next one of the kingdom church thenif you follow series then you will come to the church today.

 

I know I have started in the middle of his series but you will understand the basics of it even from the one on law.  go to his you tube site and you can see and watch his whole series on dispensational teaching.   here https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmrjiMKIm7R0YsjmtCWqmcA

 

 

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I see lots of "semi-Catholics" mixing Grace with Law, replacing Israel with "spiritual Israel"... even among "IFB" it seems.
2 Tim 4:3

Part 2 :amen:

We are spiritually seed of Abraham....
Israel is his grandson.

First point of confusion, lies with that generation gap.
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We are spiritually seed of Abraham....
Israel is his grandson.

First point of confusion, lies with that generation gap.

But there is a difference between the physical seed of Abraham and Israel, and the spiritual seed.  The big thing people think is just because they are a spiritual seed they get all the promises to the Physical seed and that is not correct.

 

Prophet are you watching the video to critique or learn about how dispensations work?

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But there is a difference between the physical seed of Abraham and Israel, and the spiritual seed. The big thing people think is just because they are a spiritual seed they get all the promises to the Physical seed and that is not correct.

Prophet are you watching the video to critique or learn about how dispensations work?

I didnt watch the video.

You're 36 years too late.
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Our associate pastor today in Sunday school warned about this dangerous false teaching in the guise of "rightly dividing".

There are a lot of pastors that won't preach the pure Gospel of Grace because they are afraid of losing member$hip.

You can see them on the "Christian" T.V. channels.  But not to worry, the Catholic Church was the first to mix Law & Grace

in the 4th Century, as they continue to this very day.  It seems like a lot of Protestant churches like to plagiarize the false Gospel.

 

Gal 1:8

Gal 1:9

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Thankfully, our pastors preach the true Gospel from Scripture and refute the dangerously false gospels, which are not gospels at all, which some spread.

 

The fundamentals of the faith are clear, and they do not include the false, wrongly dividing, unscriptural fakery being presented by yourself.

 

What you are promoting is both unbiblical and against the doctrinal foundation of fundamentalism.

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Thankfully, our pastors preach the true Gospel from Scripture and refute the dangerously false gospels, which are not gospels at all, which some spread.

 

The fundamentals of the faith are clear, and they do not include the false, wrongly dividing, unscriptural fakery being presented by yourself.

 

What you are promoting is both unbiblical and against the doctrinal foundation of fundamentalism.

I believe that I've seen "unscriptural fakery" being promoted by you in the form of mixing the Law with the Gospel of Grace.

Since this heresy originated in the 4th Century with the "marriage" of the Church with the State under Emperor Constantine,

it is not surprising to find this "mixing" in Protestant denominations including KJVO circles, unfortunately. 

The Catholics have always elevated the "Gospels" and apply them directly to the Church. 

It's about keeping individual believers "confu$ed" and diminishing the authority of the Apostle Paul.

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Since I acknowledge and post consistent with the fundamentalist belief (which is scriptural) regarding salvation and the Gospel and you call such a heresy, that means you reject both the Bible and Fundamentalism.

 

Why are you here?

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I have not seen John mixing Law and grace.

If you think he is then you are either mistaken or deliberately misunderstanding what he has written.

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I wanted to try at least to help those of you seem to be a little confused on dispensations and what they mean and how they apply to us today.  No where is dispensational promoting throwing out scriptures.

 

I hope these links will help give you an idea of what dispensational teaching is.

 

It will require you to view and try doing without critique. Try coming to it as if you are really willing to learn something.

 

This is Dr Ken Blue an Independent Fundamental Baptist Pastor.

 

the first is the law part two and the next one of the kingdom church thenif you follow series then you will come to the church today.

 

I know I have started in the middle of his series but you will understand the basics of it even from the one on law.  go to his you tube site and you can see and watch his whole series on dispensational teaching.   here https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmrjiMKIm7R0YsjmtCWqmcA

Thanks, but no thanks. People have been trying to help me understand dispensationalism for 50 years, from when I was at universtity, so I don't think a series of hour-long lectures will help. The Scofield "Bible" was everywhere. Reading the Bible is much more profitable.

 

The great principle of "right dividing" is established in the opening verses of Hebrews 1:1-4

 

Our Bible is already rightly divided between old & new covenants - Moses & the law & Jesus and the Gospel.

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While everyone is free to reject the OP it was not my intention to win anyone over.  My intention is to inform you so you can better communicate on the subject. 

 

I don't agree with Charismatic unknown tongue speaking, prosperity theology, JW or Mormon doctrine but I studied in out and learned what they teach so I could better speak to them on it when the time came.

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Ken Blue was the pastor who baptized me.  Way back in the day.  :icon_smile:  

 

Never heard of Pastor Blue but ain't that something. The born again world is a whole lot smaller than we think, isn't it

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I know that I am new here, and I surely do not want to start right out by stepping on any toes, so this is me...being careful. :)

 

As a general thought on the idea of dispensations and not a specific attempt at any particular division, ..

 

God dealt with Adam before the fall differently than he did after the fall ...

God dealt differently with Abraham than he did Moses ... (Moses received the Mosaic Law, Abraham did not)

God dealt differently with Israel in the Gospels than he did in the Old Testament ... ("It has been said ... but I say unto you...")

God dealt differently with the Gentiles and post resurrection church than he did with the pre-crucifixion believing Jews ... (the entire book of Galatians)

God will deal differently with those in the millennium than he is with the church today ...

 

How we view and divide these dispensations may be open to discussion and even disagreement, but isn't throwing out the entire idea of God dealing with man differently in different periods a little difficult? All men are, and have always been, saved by grace through faith, regardless of dispensation. I assume that we are all in complete agreement on that. Some by looking forward to the coming cross (that they did not even fully understand) and some by looking back at the cross. (That's me!) But there surely have been a number of "periods of time" when God's approach to presenting this Gospel of Grace to men has been unique to that epoch. 

 

Or have I completely misunderstood the question and simply given you a brief moment of unintended entertainment?  :icon_redface:

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 All men are, and have always been, saved by grace through faith, regardless of dispensation. I assume that we are all in complete agreement on that. 

 

Be aware...not all here do agree with that. I do though.  :)

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