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      Closed Communion
      James Foley
       
      I Corinthians 11:17-34: "Now in this that I declare unto you I praise you not, that ye come together not for the better, but for the worse. For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it. For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you. When ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat the Lord's Supper. For in eating every one taketh before other his own supper: and one is hungry, and another is drunken. What? have ye not houses to eat and to drink in? or despise ye the church of God, and shame them that have not? What shall I say to you? shall I praise you in this? I praise you not. For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread: And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me. For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do show the Lord's death till he come. Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord. But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup. For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body. For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep. For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged. But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world. Wherefore, my brethren, when ye come together to eat, tarry one for another. And if any man hunger, let him eat at home; that ye come not together unto condemnation. And the rest will I set in order when I come."

      INTRODUCTION

      Historic Baptists, true Baptists, have believed in and still believe in closed communion. Baptists impose upon themselves the same restrictions that they impose on others concerning the Lord’s Supper. Baptists have always insisted that it is the Lord’s Table, not theirs; and He alone has the right to say who shall sit at His table. No amount of so called brotherly love, or ecumenical spirit, should cause us to invite to His table those who have not complied with the requirements laid down plainly in His inspired Word. With respect to Bible doctrines we must always use the scripture as our guide and practice. For Baptists, two of the most important doctrines are Baptism and The Lord’s Supper. These are the only two doctrines we recognize as Church Ordinances. The Bible is very clear in teaching how these doctrines are to be practiced and by whom.

      We only have two ordinances that we must never compromise or we risk our very existence, they are Baptism and The Lord’s Supper.

      The moment we deviate from the precise method God has prescribed we have started down the slippery slope of error. True Baptists have held fast to the original doctrine of The Lord’s Supper from the time of Christ and the Apostles.

      Unfortunately, in this day of what the Bible describes as the age of luke warmness, Baptists are becoming careless in regard to strictly following the pattern laid out for us in Scripture. Many of our Bible colleges are graduating otherwise sincere, Godly and dedicated pastors and teachers who have not been taught the very strict, biblical requirements that surround the Lord’s Supper. Any Bible college that neglects to teach its students the differences surrounding Closed Communion, Close Communion and Open Communion is not simply short changing its students; it is also not equipping their students to carry on sound Bible traditions. The result is men of God and churches that fall into error. And as we will see, this is serious error.

      Should we as Baptists ignore the restrictions made by our Lord and Master? NO! When we hold to the restrictions placed upon the Lord’s Supper by our Master, we are defending the "faith which was once delivered to the saints" Jude 3.

      The Lord’s Supper is rigidly restricted and I will show this in the following facts:

      IT IS RESTRICTED AS TO PLACE

      A. I Corinthians 11:18 says, "When ye come together in the church." This does not mean the church building; they had none. In other words, when the church assembles. The supper is to be observed by the church, in church capacity. Again this does not mean the church house. Ekklesia, the Greek word for church, means assembly. "When ye come together in the church," is when the church assembles.

      B. When we say church we mean an assembly of properly baptized believers. Acts 2:41-42: "Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls. And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers."

      The church is made up of saved people who are baptized by immersion. In the Bible, belief precedes baptism. That’s the Bible way.

      Acts 8:12-13, "But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women. Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized, he continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles and signs which were done."

      When we say properly baptized, we mean immersed. No unbeliever should take the Lord’s supper, and no non-immersed believer should take the supper. Those who are sprinkled are not baptized and cannot receive the supper. The Greek word for baptize is baptizo, and it always means to immerse.

      "In every case where communion is referred to, or where it may possibly have been administered, the believers had been baptized Acts 2:42; 8:12; 8:38; 10:47; 6:14-15; 18:8; 20:7. Baptism comes before communion, just as repentance and faith precede baptism".

      C. The Lord’s Supper is for baptized believers in church capacity: "When ye come together in the church," again not a building, but the assembly of the properly baptized believers.

      D. The fact that the Lord’s Supper is a church ordinance, to be observed in church capacity, is pointed out by the fact that it is for those who have been immersed and added to the fellowship of the church.

      E. The Lord’s Supper is never spoken of in connection with individuals. When it is referred to, it is only referred to in reference to baptized believers in local church capacity I Cor. 11:20-26).

      I want to quote Dr. W.W. Hamilton,

      "The individual administration of the ordinance has no Bible warrant and is a relic of Romanism. The Lord’s Supper is a church ordinance, and anything which goes beyond or comes short of this fails for want of scriptural example or command".

      “The practice of taking a little communion kit to hospitals, nursing homes, etc. is unscriptural and does not follow the scriptural example.”

      IT IS RESTRICTED TO A UNITED CHURCH

      A. The Bible in I Cor. 11:18 is very strong in condemning divisions around the Lord’s table. For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it.
      19 For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.
      20 When ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat the Lord's supper.

      There were no less than four divisions in the Corinthian church.
      I Cor. 1:12: "Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ."

      Because of these divisions, it was impossible for them to scripturally eat the Lord’s Supper. Division in the local church is reason to hold off observing the Lord’s Supper. But there are also other reasons to forego taking the Lord’s Supper. If there is gross sin in the membership we do not take it. Here is scriptural evidence for this: 1Co 5:7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our Passover is sacrificed for us:
      8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth. 9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:
      10 Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. 11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

      B. At this point, I want to ask these questions: Are there not doctrinal divisions among the many denominations? Is it not our doctrinal differences that cause us to be separate religious bodies?

      IT IS RESTRICTED BY DOCTRINE

      A. Those in the early church at Jerusalem who partook "continued stedfastly in the apostles’ doctrine" Acts 2:42. And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.

      B. Those that do not hold to apostolic truth are not to partake. This means there is to be discipline in the local body. How can you discipline those who do not belong to the local body? You can’t. The clear command of scripture is to withdraw fellowship from those who are not doctrinally sound.

      II Thes 3:6: "Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us."
      Rom. 16:17: "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them."
      To commune together means to have the same doctrine.
      II Thes. 2:15: "Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle."
      II John 10-11: "If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds."

      C. Some Baptists in our day have watered down this doctrine by practicing what they call “Close Communion.” By this they mean that they believe that members of another Baptist church may take communion with us because they are of the same beliefs. Once again, this is unscriptural.

      The welcome to the Lord's Table should not be extended beyond the discipline of the local church. When we take the Lord’s Supper there is supposed to be no gross sin among us and no divisions among us. We have no idea of the spiritual condition of another church’s members. If there is sin or division in the case of this other church’s members, we have no way of knowing it. We cannot discipline them because they are not members of our church. This is why we practice “Closed” communion, meaning it is restricted solely to our church membership. 
      So then, in closing I would like to reiterate the three different ideas concerning the Lord’s Supper and who is to take it. 
      Closed Communion = Only members of a single local church. 
      Close Communion = Members of like faith and order may partake. 
      Open Communion = If you claim to be a Christian, or simply attending the service, you may partake. 
      It is no small thing to attempt to change that which was implemented by our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. 
      Mt. 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen. 
      Many of our Baptist churches have a real need to consider the gravity of the act of observing The Lord’s Supper. It is not a light thing that is to be taken casually or without regard to the spiritual condition of ourselves or our church.
      1Co. 11:27 Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.

       28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.

       29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.

       30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.

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I wanted to try at least to help those of you seem to be a little confused on dispensations and what they mean and how they apply to us today.  No where is dispensational promoting throwing out scriptures.

 

I hope these links will help give you an idea of what dispensational teaching is.

 

It will require you to view and try doing without critique. Try coming to it as if you are really willing to learn something.

 

This is Dr Ken Blue an Independent Fundamental Baptist Pastor.

 

the first is the law part two and the next one of the kingdom church thenif you follow series then you will come to the church today.

 

I know I have started in the middle of his series but you will understand the basics of it even from the one on law.  go to his you tube site and you can see and watch his whole series on dispensational teaching.   here https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmrjiMKIm7R0YsjmtCWqmcA

 

 

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I see lots of "semi-Catholics" mixing Grace with Law, replacing Israel with "spiritual Israel"... even among "IFB" it seems.
2 Tim 4:3

Part 2 :amen:

We are spiritually seed of Abraham....
Israel is his grandson.

First point of confusion, lies with that generation gap.
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We are spiritually seed of Abraham....
Israel is his grandson.

First point of confusion, lies with that generation gap.

But there is a difference between the physical seed of Abraham and Israel, and the spiritual seed.  The big thing people think is just because they are a spiritual seed they get all the promises to the Physical seed and that is not correct.

 

Prophet are you watching the video to critique or learn about how dispensations work?

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But there is a difference between the physical seed of Abraham and Israel, and the spiritual seed. The big thing people think is just because they are a spiritual seed they get all the promises to the Physical seed and that is not correct.

Prophet are you watching the video to critique or learn about how dispensations work?

I didnt watch the video.

You're 36 years too late.
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Our associate pastor today in Sunday school warned about this dangerous false teaching in the guise of "rightly dividing".

There are a lot of pastors that won't preach the pure Gospel of Grace because they are afraid of losing member$hip.

You can see them on the "Christian" T.V. channels.  But not to worry, the Catholic Church was the first to mix Law & Grace

in the 4th Century, as they continue to this very day.  It seems like a lot of Protestant churches like to plagiarize the false Gospel.

 

Gal 1:8

Gal 1:9

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Thankfully, our pastors preach the true Gospel from Scripture and refute the dangerously false gospels, which are not gospels at all, which some spread.

 

The fundamentals of the faith are clear, and they do not include the false, wrongly dividing, unscriptural fakery being presented by yourself.

 

What you are promoting is both unbiblical and against the doctrinal foundation of fundamentalism.

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Thankfully, our pastors preach the true Gospel from Scripture and refute the dangerously false gospels, which are not gospels at all, which some spread.

 

The fundamentals of the faith are clear, and they do not include the false, wrongly dividing, unscriptural fakery being presented by yourself.

 

What you are promoting is both unbiblical and against the doctrinal foundation of fundamentalism.

I believe that I've seen "unscriptural fakery" being promoted by you in the form of mixing the Law with the Gospel of Grace.

Since this heresy originated in the 4th Century with the "marriage" of the Church with the State under Emperor Constantine,

it is not surprising to find this "mixing" in Protestant denominations including KJVO circles, unfortunately. 

The Catholics have always elevated the "Gospels" and apply them directly to the Church. 

It's about keeping individual believers "confu$ed" and diminishing the authority of the Apostle Paul.

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Since I acknowledge and post consistent with the fundamentalist belief (which is scriptural) regarding salvation and the Gospel and you call such a heresy, that means you reject both the Bible and Fundamentalism.

 

Why are you here?

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I have not seen John mixing Law and grace.

If you think he is then you are either mistaken or deliberately misunderstanding what he has written.

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I wanted to try at least to help those of you seem to be a little confused on dispensations and what they mean and how they apply to us today.  No where is dispensational promoting throwing out scriptures.

 

I hope these links will help give you an idea of what dispensational teaching is.

 

It will require you to view and try doing without critique. Try coming to it as if you are really willing to learn something.

 

This is Dr Ken Blue an Independent Fundamental Baptist Pastor.

 

the first is the law part two and the next one of the kingdom church thenif you follow series then you will come to the church today.

 

I know I have started in the middle of his series but you will understand the basics of it even from the one on law.  go to his you tube site and you can see and watch his whole series on dispensational teaching.   here https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmrjiMKIm7R0YsjmtCWqmcA

Thanks, but no thanks. People have been trying to help me understand dispensationalism for 50 years, from when I was at universtity, so I don't think a series of hour-long lectures will help. The Scofield "Bible" was everywhere. Reading the Bible is much more profitable.

 

The great principle of "right dividing" is established in the opening verses of Hebrews 1:1-4

 

Our Bible is already rightly divided between old & new covenants - Moses & the law & Jesus and the Gospel.

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While everyone is free to reject the OP it was not my intention to win anyone over.  My intention is to inform you so you can better communicate on the subject. 

 

I don't agree with Charismatic unknown tongue speaking, prosperity theology, JW or Mormon doctrine but I studied in out and learned what they teach so I could better speak to them on it when the time came.

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Ken Blue was the pastor who baptized me.  Way back in the day.  :icon_smile:  

 

Never heard of Pastor Blue but ain't that something. The born again world is a whole lot smaller than we think, isn't it

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I know that I am new here, and I surely do not want to start right out by stepping on any toes, so this is me...being careful. :)

 

As a general thought on the idea of dispensations and not a specific attempt at any particular division, ..

 

God dealt with Adam before the fall differently than he did after the fall ...

God dealt differently with Abraham than he did Moses ... (Moses received the Mosaic Law, Abraham did not)

God dealt differently with Israel in the Gospels than he did in the Old Testament ... ("It has been said ... but I say unto you...")

God dealt differently with the Gentiles and post resurrection church than he did with the pre-crucifixion believing Jews ... (the entire book of Galatians)

God will deal differently with those in the millennium than he is with the church today ...

 

How we view and divide these dispensations may be open to discussion and even disagreement, but isn't throwing out the entire idea of God dealing with man differently in different periods a little difficult? All men are, and have always been, saved by grace through faith, regardless of dispensation. I assume that we are all in complete agreement on that. Some by looking forward to the coming cross (that they did not even fully understand) and some by looking back at the cross. (That's me!) But there surely have been a number of "periods of time" when God's approach to presenting this Gospel of Grace to men has been unique to that epoch. 

 

Or have I completely misunderstood the question and simply given you a brief moment of unintended entertainment?  :icon_redface:

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 All men are, and have always been, saved by grace through faith, regardless of dispensation. I assume that we are all in complete agreement on that. 

 

Be aware...not all here do agree with that. I do though.  :)

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