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      James Foley
       
      I Corinthians 11:17-34: "Now in this that I declare unto you I praise you not, that ye come together not for the better, but for the worse. For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it. For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you. When ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat the Lord's Supper. For in eating every one taketh before other his own supper: and one is hungry, and another is drunken. What? have ye not houses to eat and to drink in? or despise ye the church of God, and shame them that have not? What shall I say to you? shall I praise you in this? I praise you not. For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread: And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me. For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do show the Lord's death till he come. Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord. But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup. For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body. For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep. For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged. But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world. Wherefore, my brethren, when ye come together to eat, tarry one for another. And if any man hunger, let him eat at home; that ye come not together unto condemnation. And the rest will I set in order when I come."

      INTRODUCTION

      Historic Baptists, true Baptists, have believed in and still believe in closed communion. Baptists impose upon themselves the same restrictions that they impose on others concerning the Lord’s Supper. Baptists have always insisted that it is the Lord’s Table, not theirs; and He alone has the right to say who shall sit at His table. No amount of so called brotherly love, or ecumenical spirit, should cause us to invite to His table those who have not complied with the requirements laid down plainly in His inspired Word. With respect to Bible doctrines we must always use the scripture as our guide and practice. For Baptists, two of the most important doctrines are Baptism and The Lord’s Supper. These are the only two doctrines we recognize as Church Ordinances. The Bible is very clear in teaching how these doctrines are to be practiced and by whom.

      We only have two ordinances that we must never compromise or we risk our very existence, they are Baptism and The Lord’s Supper.

      The moment we deviate from the precise method God has prescribed we have started down the slippery slope of error. True Baptists have held fast to the original doctrine of The Lord’s Supper from the time of Christ and the Apostles.

      Unfortunately, in this day of what the Bible describes as the age of luke warmness, Baptists are becoming careless in regard to strictly following the pattern laid out for us in Scripture. Many of our Bible colleges are graduating otherwise sincere, Godly and dedicated pastors and teachers who have not been taught the very strict, biblical requirements that surround the Lord’s Supper. Any Bible college that neglects to teach its students the differences surrounding Closed Communion, Close Communion and Open Communion is not simply short changing its students; it is also not equipping their students to carry on sound Bible traditions. The result is men of God and churches that fall into error. And as we will see, this is serious error.

      Should we as Baptists ignore the restrictions made by our Lord and Master? NO! When we hold to the restrictions placed upon the Lord’s Supper by our Master, we are defending the "faith which was once delivered to the saints" Jude 3.

      The Lord’s Supper is rigidly restricted and I will show this in the following facts:

      IT IS RESTRICTED AS TO PLACE

      A. I Corinthians 11:18 says, "When ye come together in the church." This does not mean the church building; they had none. In other words, when the church assembles. The supper is to be observed by the church, in church capacity. Again this does not mean the church house. Ekklesia, the Greek word for church, means assembly. "When ye come together in the church," is when the church assembles.

      B. When we say church we mean an assembly of properly baptized believers. Acts 2:41-42: "Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls. And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers."

      The church is made up of saved people who are baptized by immersion. In the Bible, belief precedes baptism. That’s the Bible way.

      Acts 8:12-13, "But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women. Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized, he continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles and signs which were done."

      When we say properly baptized, we mean immersed. No unbeliever should take the Lord’s supper, and no non-immersed believer should take the supper. Those who are sprinkled are not baptized and cannot receive the supper. The Greek word for baptize is baptizo, and it always means to immerse.

      "In every case where communion is referred to, or where it may possibly have been administered, the believers had been baptized Acts 2:42; 8:12; 8:38; 10:47; 6:14-15; 18:8; 20:7. Baptism comes before communion, just as repentance and faith precede baptism".

      C. The Lord’s Supper is for baptized believers in church capacity: "When ye come together in the church," again not a building, but the assembly of the properly baptized believers.

      D. The fact that the Lord’s Supper is a church ordinance, to be observed in church capacity, is pointed out by the fact that it is for those who have been immersed and added to the fellowship of the church.

      E. The Lord’s Supper is never spoken of in connection with individuals. When it is referred to, it is only referred to in reference to baptized believers in local church capacity I Cor. 11:20-26).

      I want to quote Dr. W.W. Hamilton,

      "The individual administration of the ordinance has no Bible warrant and is a relic of Romanism. The Lord’s Supper is a church ordinance, and anything which goes beyond or comes short of this fails for want of scriptural example or command".

      “The practice of taking a little communion kit to hospitals, nursing homes, etc. is unscriptural and does not follow the scriptural example.”

      IT IS RESTRICTED TO A UNITED CHURCH

      A. The Bible in I Cor. 11:18 is very strong in condemning divisions around the Lord’s table. For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it.
      19 For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.
      20 When ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat the Lord's supper.

      There were no less than four divisions in the Corinthian church.
      I Cor. 1:12: "Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ."

      Because of these divisions, it was impossible for them to scripturally eat the Lord’s Supper. Division in the local church is reason to hold off observing the Lord’s Supper. But there are also other reasons to forego taking the Lord’s Supper. If there is gross sin in the membership we do not take it. Here is scriptural evidence for this: 1Co 5:7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our Passover is sacrificed for us:
      8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth. 9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:
      10 Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. 11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

      B. At this point, I want to ask these questions: Are there not doctrinal divisions among the many denominations? Is it not our doctrinal differences that cause us to be separate religious bodies?

      IT IS RESTRICTED BY DOCTRINE

      A. Those in the early church at Jerusalem who partook "continued stedfastly in the apostles’ doctrine" Acts 2:42. And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.

      B. Those that do not hold to apostolic truth are not to partake. This means there is to be discipline in the local body. How can you discipline those who do not belong to the local body? You can’t. The clear command of scripture is to withdraw fellowship from those who are not doctrinally sound.

      II Thes 3:6: "Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us."
      Rom. 16:17: "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them."
      To commune together means to have the same doctrine.
      II Thes. 2:15: "Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle."
      II John 10-11: "If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds."

      C. Some Baptists in our day have watered down this doctrine by practicing what they call “Close Communion.” By this they mean that they believe that members of another Baptist church may take communion with us because they are of the same beliefs. Once again, this is unscriptural.

      The welcome to the Lord's Table should not be extended beyond the discipline of the local church. When we take the Lord’s Supper there is supposed to be no gross sin among us and no divisions among us. We have no idea of the spiritual condition of another church’s members. If there is sin or division in the case of this other church’s members, we have no way of knowing it. We cannot discipline them because they are not members of our church. This is why we practice “Closed” communion, meaning it is restricted solely to our church membership. 
      So then, in closing I would like to reiterate the three different ideas concerning the Lord’s Supper and who is to take it. 
      Closed Communion = Only members of a single local church. 
      Close Communion = Members of like faith and order may partake. 
      Open Communion = If you claim to be a Christian, or simply attending the service, you may partake. 
      It is no small thing to attempt to change that which was implemented by our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. 
      Mt. 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen. 
      Many of our Baptist churches have a real need to consider the gravity of the act of observing The Lord’s Supper. It is not a light thing that is to be taken casually or without regard to the spiritual condition of ourselves or our church.
      1Co. 11:27 Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.

       28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.

       29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.

       30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.

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A banned individual can still post?

Auto feed from his site......

I don't think "he" can post, and I would assume if he was to "sly post" through his feed they would cut it.
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Wow, great article in the original post link! I admin several facebook groups and have recognized similarities in the accounts of people that later ended up being trolls. They often support people like James White and appear to vehemently hate KJO people like Will Kinney. Some people no doubt think I am paranoid but your article definitely supports my contention that these types of accounts are showing up in various social media ... whether given the Jesuit or the Anon label ... the fact is, this is happening actively.

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It was a great article. Why was James Ach banned? Because he called out who was spreading Calvinism and other heresies? And had the knowledge to defend himself and other supporters against the trolls? Not right. He's very knowledgeable and Biblically correct from everything I've read of his. I always appreciated all the work he would put into his replies and they were always scripturally based and quoted.

IMO banning him was a mistake.    

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It was a great article. Why was James Ach banned? Because he called out who was spreading Calvinism and other heresies? And had the knowledge to defend himself and other supporters against the trolls? Not right. He's very knowledgeable and Biblically correct from everything I've read of his. I always appreciated all the work he would put into his replies and they were always scripturally based and quoted.

IMO banning him was a mistake.    

No, that's not why. And it's done, so let's just move on.

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Polite...eh, he gets his digs in too, he just does not have a "loud" personality.

Respectful....eh, he can sling a few names here and there as well as anybody can...but again, he is "nice" so he gets away with it.

But the REAL prOBlem is that he is advancing a false teaching regarding the Bible - he is a preterist, and he is a-millennial.  His abuse of Scripture is nauseating.

 

hmmm...

 

this reminds of Romans 16:17-18 - it is not the "loud OBnoxious" guy that we have to worry about - they are right up front with what they believe. 

The people the Bible warns us about are the ones who TALK NICE - "through good words and fair speeches." 

 

The Bible is to be taught dogmatically and authoritatively.  Further, Pastors - who by definition are shepherds - are to warn their congregation of the wolves who might try to disguise themselves as sheep.  This means the pastor must NAME NAMES, and put that false teaching in full view for what it is.  There is no "nice" way of doing this. 

Unfortunately, carnal Christians who are more concerned about their "feelings" and about being "nice and polite" view the Shepherd who is protecting his sheep from some slick "wolf in sheep's clothing" as antagonistic and mean.  Jesus Christ was mean and rude toward the false teachers of His day, and the Apostle Paul, Peter, and John warned against the false teachers of their day by naming the names, and telling us what that false teaching was. 

 

I say all that to say this - just because Covenanter is "polite and respectful" does not mean he is RIGHT.  I would rather be RIGHT than be "nice and respectful" if I had the choice.  Preferably, we would like to be BOTH "right" AND "nice and respectful."  BUt if I could only have one side of that equation, then I will take the "right" side any day of the week.

 

I do not say this to be antagonistic toward Covenanter; I say it to show that being "nice and respectful" does not go very far for some of us here, when the "nice and respectful" person is teaching something that is false. 

 

When false teaching is pushed for a very long time, despite many reasonable attempts at refuting said teaching, the false teacher, with all of his "niceties and respectfulness" provokes the good teachers to anger.  Then the carnal "feelings" oriented Christian reacts to the TONE of the person, and dismisses them because they were "mean."  They listen to the "nice" person because he is "nice."  They dismiss all of the Scriptural arguments, and make a decision based on a person's personality and tone of voice. 

 

Sad, but true.  It does happen.

 

I am not accusing anyone here of basing their decisions upon anyone's "tone of voice," but we would be naïve to think that it does not happen.

It does - and all too often.

 

 

 

In Christ,

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It "scares" you that  BIble Believing pastor has convictions about Bible Doctrine??? 

What is scary about that?  It should be NORMAL.  Every Bible Believing Baptist Pastor should be loudly proclaiming Bible Doctrine from the pulpit.  It should not be an anomaly, but normative.

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Come on guys... are we really going to start this all over again? Like OFP mentioned earlier, the mods are working through ideas on how best to handle opposing doctrines. It will take a bit of time to get these implemented - please allow us the time to work on them. (And by that I do not mean ask us again tomorrow!) In the meantime, refrain from questioning mod decisions and try to discuss doctrine instead of fellow users. Please.

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Geneva -- down, back, chill, you're pushing. And don't feel a need to come back nor defend yourself.Remembering that you are on an IFB site with primarily KJVO, pre-mil, non-Calv, members and staff should cause you to think twice about your posts -- especially since you've been skating on thin ice this week.

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Geneva -- down, back, chill, you're pushing. And don't feel a need to come back nor defend yourself.Remembering that you are on an IFB site with primarily KJVO, pre-mil, non-Calv, members and staff should cause you to think twice about your posts -- especially since you've been skating on thin ice this week.

 

Taking my skates off. There.

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Ach may have a genuine grievance with the opponents he is writing about, but what is that to do with this forum? I've looked at his blog & web site & my advice is to stay away. It's not edifying.

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"... refrain from questioning mod decisions... " Is that site policy?

from: Online Baptist Rules

8) Be nice to the Moderators
c) We have the right to delete any post or ban any member who we feel is inappropriate for these boards without notice.
d) The mods have the right to lock any topic that they feel is not appropriate for this board.

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